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  • #41
    Cotto beat the better opponents and that's what I base a resume on...

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    • #42
      Ricky who??? Ricky what?? Some questions shouldnt even be asked...

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
        floyd said he'd fight anyone after the brusselles fight. that fight was supposed to set up a fight with cotto. cotto ducked.
        so did hatton but when floyd became a ww cotto and hatton both were willing to fight him and floyd chose to fight hatton and not cotto

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post

          mosley lost a few times and was coming down in weight. they thought they caught mosley at a good time.


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          mosley had just beat vargas twice, mayorga and collazo his last lost was to winky wright so i don't understand why would anyone assume that miguel was only fighting mosley because they thought he was shot.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
            mosley had just beat vargas twice, mayorga and collazo his last lost was to winky wright so i don't understand why would anyone assume that miguel was only fighting mosley because they thought he was shot.
            you do realize that vargas and mayorga were already considered done right?

            mosley fighting vargas and mayorga at that stage of their careers is similar to what roy jones is doing with omar sheika and lacy.

            a few years earlier the fights would have mattered but not at the point it happened.

            you have to remember how mayorga and vargas was looked upon at the times it happened.

            having that questionable win over collazo didn't help people's view of mosley as well.

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            • #46
              Cotto hands down.................no disrspect to hatton..............Miguel is a solid fighter.............with a solid resume.........roach giving props to cotto...he know whats up..............

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                i voted hatton, just to **** with cotto stans... but anyways....


                I wouldn't say ****s all over...


                possible robbery


                another possible robbery


                low blows


                B to C level fighters


                p4p #3


                true


                true

                possible robbery


                in MSG... he got his azz whupped by margo and margo is a slow, loopy, face-first, unskilled, fighter


                to the 2 best fighters of this generation.


                as far as we all know, nothing illegal.


                nope, we talking about it


                atleast hatton went out on his shield. cotto quit


                cotto shouldn't have lost to margo anyways. getting beat up by an unskilled brawler is shameful.
                load of ****. Margarito isn't a great technical fighter, but he is massive for 147, has freakish stamina and workrate, and a cast iron jaw. He is also good at putting effective pressure on guys that breaks them down, and his hands are heavy and his punches take a massive toll. He also has a great resume.

                Cotto is a much, much better fighter than Hatton. Hatton would get absolutely pulverized by Margs. Cotto's level of opposition is excellent, Hatton fought C, D and F level fighters for 38 fights before taking out an old Tszyu. He had an alright run after that but got his ass starched by Floyd and then blasted out by Pac.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                  so did hatton but when floyd became a ww cotto and hatton both were willing to fight him and floyd chose to fight hatton and not cotto
                  I can't excuse floyd at 147 lbs, but cotto ducked floyd at 140 lbs.

                  Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                  mosley had just beat vargas twice, mayorga and collazo his last lost was to winky wright so i don't understand why would anyone assume that miguel was only fighting mosley because they thought he was shot.
                  i never said they thought mosley was shot.

                  the vargas fights were wars. shane didn't KO collazo. they thought they caught mosley at a good time.

                  shane didn't fight mayorga yet.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Archaic View Post
                    load of ****. Margarito isn't a great technical fighter, but he is massive for 147, has freakish stamina and workrate, and a cast iron jaw. He is also good at putting effective pressure on guys that breaks them down, and his hands are heavy and his punches take a massive toll. He also has a great resume.
                    c'mon man... cotto had no business losing to margo. most (not all) ricans were so stunned they stopped posting and went into hiding. some thought margo was using steriods and even today, most (not all) ricans and cotto stans think margo was using plaster.

                    regardless, cotto should've boxed circles around margo and taken zero damage against a margo, ala mosley.

                    Cotto is a much, much better fighter than Hatton.
                    yep, but cotto is hattonesque.

                    Hatton would get absolutely pulverized by Margs.
                    so did cotto lulz.

                    Cotto's level of opposition is excellent,
                    its good but nothing spectacular

                    Hatton fought C, D and F level fighters for 38 fights before taking out an old Tszyu.
                    true, but cotto never fought at p4p top 5 boxer ever.

                    He had an alright run after that but got his ass starched by Floyd and then blasted out by Pac.
                    hatton style is not made to last long.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                      doesn't matter. fact is hatton fought some... cotto none.


                      how so? tszyu left on top. he came back and beat his #1 contender in mitchell thus reclaiming his spot.
                      Well, there are two questions. Who fought the better competition and who beat the better competition.

                      The first question is more or less a worthless question by itself. Losing to opposition, generally, doesn't improve your standing. Because, as of yet, Cotto hasn't fought Pac/Mayweather there's no point in bringing them up because there is no way that he could do worse that what Hatton did against them.

                      Tszyu hadn't fought in 2 years before that Mitchell fight. And that fight was a gimme less than 3 rounder against a fighter who he had defeated before and was scared to death of him. Not exactly the best way to take ring rust off. Plus he was pretty old for his weight class.

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