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Floyd Mayweather: "Do I want to test the waters and one day fight at 160? Yes"
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostSize alone can't beat Floyd. Let's not forget at 130, Floyd was fighting welterweights on fight night. He would come in at just a bit above 130, while his opponents came in at above 140, some even at 145-147. Let's not forget Floyd was 149 vs Baldomir's 160+, and Floyd was 150 vs Ortiz's 164. That's just to name a few.
Martinez can beat Floyd cause of his skill AND size. But you said size beats Floyd, which is false in my eyes, and Floyd has proved that it's false. You don't only need size to beat him, you need a lot more than that. Like do you really see Pavlik or Chavez Jr winning 2-3 rounds vs Floyd? They're huge aren't they? They're big, tall, long reach, Chavez Jr comes in as a cruiiserweight on fight night...but they would stylistically suck against some one like Floyd.
Martines with his size (and yes he can fight) would be a very difficult damn near impossible task at 160 imo.... But if somehow Floyd pulled that off, that would be crazy.....
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Originally posted by BesWorldChamp View PostI don't think he'll ever fight above 154.
Floyd is getting bigger and stronger for a reason. look at him vs baldomir then him vs Ortiz.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostSize alone can't beat Floyd. Let's not forget at 130, Floyd was fighting welterweights on fight night. He would come in at just a bit above 130, while his opponents came in at above 140, some even at 145-147. Let's not forget Floyd was 149 vs Baldomir's 160+, and Floyd was 150 vs Ortiz's 164. That's just to name a few.
Martinez can beat Floyd cause of his skill AND size. But you said size beats Floyd, which is false in my eyes, and Floyd has proved that it's false. You don't only need size to beat him, you need a lot more than that. Like do you really see Pavlik or Chavez Jr winning 2-3 rounds vs Floyd? They're huge aren't they? They're big, tall, long reach, Chavez Jr comes in as a cruiiserweight on fight night...but they would stylistically suck against some one like Floyd.
Anyway of course skill would come into play or else they wouldn't have a belt (assuming floyd would pick a 160 lber with a strap). Weight wasn't really what I was getting at though. I was talking more about height and reach advantages but also weighing 160 who would come in 170-180 fight night.
I know Martinez has skills though... But i'm talking about the divisions right now, nobody 154 or below beats Floyd. Meaning he needs to move up and fight fighters with size, reach and weight advantages.
I do agree with you to an extent. Skills will definitely be needed but that is not all they need and nobody 154 has those skills... he needs to move up.Last edited by WESS; 03-04-2012, 01:19 PM.
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Yes, but you will only test the waters with a fighter that shows little to no risk. We get it, we can't make you fight Pacquiao or Martinez. You won't risk your health fighting guys that stand a chance. Go cherry pick another woman you want to beat up.
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he's lookin at chavez jr...! once he beats cotto hes gonna fight canelo... (if pacman dont step up) he might go fight chavez jr.... call me crazy but even roger said for the right $ they'd go to 175...
i dont think a sergio fight is possible unless its a catchweight of 150 or 155
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Originally posted by Biolink View PostHe could go up tomorow and fight Chavez Jr for his fake MW strap and win. But what fun would that be I guess.
I can see it now, Floyd will demand that Chavez' 1 draw be announced so Floyd's record sounds better. Chavez won't agree and people will say that Floyd is ducking the fight....
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