I am not sure Garcia is the lineal champ. Pacquiao became lineal champ when he beat Hatton but left 140. When did Garcia become the new lineal 140 pound champ? I think lineal 140 is still up for grabs. Yes, Judah would probably be in the hall of fame even though he really not that good. He has been around a long time and won enough tittles to make it. If you study who is in the hall of fame you will find that some of the fighters in it are not that good.
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If Zab beats Garcia and becomes lineal champ at 140 will that get him to the HOF?
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostPeople are becoming too obsessed with the Ring rankings. They are just as bad as any belt organization. Not only do they bump up fighters unfairly, but they also just give away the belt now. I mean #2 v #5 can win a ring belt now. And people like Larry will call him a lineal champ
Even with the Ring belt being "free", they sure love giving it away. Vlad, Hernandez and Garcia, who all hold Ring belts are in reality not lineal champs
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Sadly yes it probably would do it, he would then have been the regarded champion of two weight classes but lets get back to reality......I look forward to Garcia slowly breaking him down and melting his coolaid pumping heart.
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostThere is none. People are saying Garcia beating Khan started it, and its just laughable
Garcia would be a pretty good win for Zab, and I guess holding the "lineal" title would be nice too. Zab would have to defend it a couple times to maximize the credit he receives.Last edited by kiaba360; 01-25-2013, 01:25 PM.
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I didn't mind it being for the lineal title, in reference to Garcia-Khan. Khan already had wins over Maidana and Judah, and I thought Khan beat Peterson too. Garcia only had an ehhh win against Holt and an old Morales, so Matthysse probably should have been higher than Garcia in the rankings at the time.
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostKhan was #2 i think and Garcia was #3 and peterson was #1. Peterson was dropped from the ratings why? Even if he was he still beat Khan and was a head of him in the rankings in reality. How can you start a lineage when a guy is coming off a lose?
Garcia is NOT the lineal champ. He was just given the Ring belt because they wanted someone to have it
So it was #1 vs #2 (According to the rankings) so many considered it to be for the Lineage.
I'd of course understand if someone were to consider it not to be.
In all honesty I'm not really interested. Khan shouldn't really have been fighting for the Lineage coming off a loss but it was #1 vs #2.
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why are people assuming that this is for the lineal title? because of the Rings stupid rankings? LOL Larry you are a dumb ass, Garcia does NOT hold the Lineal title. In order for there to be a Lineal champ, there has to be a consensus on who the #1 and #2 guy in the division are.
larry's dumb logic "you hold a ring magazine title, you = Lineal Champ "
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Originally posted by ShamrockXpress View PostI understand the dissent towards gatti and cotto, but I think morales and Barrera more than deserve to be in the hof
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