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people who apply for welfare should have to pass a drug test
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Originally posted by joe strong View Postif i have to pass a drug test to go to work then a low income person should have to pass a drug test before they can get welfare or social assistance...i'm tired of all these dead beats milking the system with my tax dollars....
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The major problem with welfare right now is that Obama's 785 billion dollar "stimulus" essentially nullified Clinton's 1996 Welfare Reform bill.
Robert Rector, a prominent welfare researcher who was one of the architects of Clinton's 1996 reform bill, warned last week that Obama’s stimulus plan was a “welfare spendathon” that would amount to the largest one-year increase in government handouts in American history.
Douglas Besharov, author of a big study on welfare reform, said the stimulus bill passed by Congress and the Senate in separate votes on Friday would “unravel” most of the 1996 reforms that led to a 65% reduction in welfare caseloads and prompted the British and several other governments to consider similar measures.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5733499.ece
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Originally posted by Everywhere View Post.I am just against drug testing welfare recipients because it would end up punishing the only people it actually helps.
The point of assistance, in my estimation, is to help people who are going through a rough time. As in, they can't find a job due to a bad economy.
People who are basically just drug addicts,alcoholics, or just not employable in general, do not deserve assistance, IMO.
The government should help you, when you decide to help yourself.
Until then, you can starve in the streets for all I care.
If you have no desire to straighten out your situation, then I feel ZERO sympathy for you.
These are the people we need to weed out: People abusing the system.
And from what I've seen, it is the VAST MAJORITY of people on assistance.
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Originally posted by Squizz View PostBut wait a second..........isn't the whole point of assistance so that people can get back on their feet? As best I can tell, you're not suppose to be on welfare for years on end. (Although I know many people who ARE, and have been.)
The point of assistance, in my estimation, is to help people who are going through a rough time. As in, they can't find a job due to a bad economy.
People who are basically just drug addicts,alcoholics, or just not employable in general, do not deserve assistance, IMO.
The government should help you, when you decide to help yourself.
Until then, you can starve in the streets for all I care.
If you have no desire to straighten out your situation, then I feel ZERO sympathy for you.
These are the people we need to weed out: People abusing the system.
And from what I've seen, it is the VAST MAJORITY of people on assistance.
If you don't have programs set up to help those less fortunate, it is called a caste system...you are what you're born into and that is that.
Does the system perpetuate it? Yes.
Do people abuse the system? Yes.
However, that one person it helps rise up is way more important than other one who grows up going to jail and always trying to get over on people.
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Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View PostThe major problem with welfare right now is that Obama's 785 billion dollar "stimulus" essentially nullified Clinton's 1996 Welfare Reform bill.
Robert Rector, a prominent welfare researcher who was one of the architects of Clinton's 1996 reform bill, warned last week that Obama’s stimulus plan was a “welfare spendathon” that would amount to the largest one-year increase in government handouts in American history.
Douglas Besharov, author of a big study on welfare reform, said the stimulus bill passed by Congress and the Senate in separate votes on Friday would “unravel” most of the 1996 reforms that led to a 65% reduction in welfare caseloads and prompted the British and several other governments to consider similar measures.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5733499.ece
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Originally posted by Check_hooks View PostAnd whos gonna pay these "bums" to pick up garbage? The goverment would. In a time when the gov is beyond broke. And since they didn't commit any crime they would have to recieve a minimun salary and benifits because its a federal job. That would end up costing more than them being on welfare.
I get what ur saying but it doesnt make sense financially
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Originally posted by MARKBNLV View PostMeh rich get richer the poor get poorer,i love how people here dont give a sht about p[eople that are suffering as long as you can fill up your escalade and live far beyond the means it takes to live a decent life,its ok,fck the poor people the ones who bake your bread clean your houses that do the real work while the rich live off the blood sweat and tears of others.
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If they spend it on drugs and alcohol they won't live long regardless. You don't ever find no old junkies.
Junkie who die at 40 is cheaper than having a dude on welfare till he retire.
Gotta be positive you know
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Originally posted by Fooly Cooly View PostMy father was a big city official and the perks were amazing. Half the time he didn't even go to work, and when he did, he just stood around all day joking around with the help.
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