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  • #1

    2009 BoxingScene All-Time Consensus Heavyweight Rankings

    This is the new consensus ranking. This consensus consisted of 25 voters. Go here for the previous ranking. In case of a tie-breaker the fighter with the highest position votes is placed ahead.
    1. Joe Louis - 352 points
    2. Muhammad Ali - 351 points
    3. Larry Holmes - 241 points
    4. George Foreman - 239 points
    5. Lennox Lewis - 223 points
    6. Jack Johnson - 216 points
    7. Rocky Marciano - 202 points
    8. Jack Dempsey - 189 points
    9. Joe Frazier - 184 points
    10. Mike Tyson - 175 points
    11. Evander Holyfield - 152 points
    12. Sonny Liston - 135 points
    13. Gene Tunney - 59 points
    14. Ezzard Charles - 36 points
    15. Sam Langford - 35 points
    16. Jim Jeffries - 32 points
    17. Harry Wills - 24 points
    18. Floyd Patterson - 22 points
    19. Jersey Joe Walcott - 18 points
    20. Riddick Bowe - 14 points
    21. James J. Corbett - 11 points
    22. Max Schmelling - 11 points
    23. Vitali Klitschko - 10 points
    24. Ken Norton - 9 points
    25. John L. Sullivan - 6 points



    Here is the way the votes tallied up. The voting position is first and the number of votes are in parenthesis. NR denotes Not Ranked.
    • Joe Louis - 1(8), 2(14), 3(2), 6(1)
    • Muhammad Ali - 1(15), 2(9), NR(1)
    • Larry Holmes - 3(11), 4(6), 5(4), 9(1), 11(1), NR(2)
    • George Foreman - 3(1), 4(4), 5(5), 6(7), 7(1), 8(2), 9(2), 10(1), 11(1), 13(1)
    • Lennox Lewis - 1(1), 3(2), 4(3), 5(5), 6(3), 7(1), 8(2), 10(4), 11(2), 13(1), NR(1)
    • Jack Johnson - 1(1), 3(4), 4(4), 5(3), 6(1), 8(3), 9(2), 10(1), 11(1), 13(2), 14(1), NR(1)
    • Rocky Marciano - 3(2), 4(1), 5(2), 6(3), 7(3), 8(5), 9(4), 10(1), 12(2), 13(1), NR(1)
    • Jack Dempsey - 3(2), 4(4), 6(3), 7(2), 8(1), 9(2), 10(2), 11(4), 12(2), 13(1), 14(1), NR(1)
    • Joe Frazier - 5(1), 6(3), 7(8), 8(3), 9(3), 10(1), 11(3), 13(1), 14(1), NR(1)
    • Mike Tyson - 2(1), 4(1), 6(1), 7(5), 8(2), 9(2), 10(4), 11(3), 12(2), 13(1), NR(3)
    • Evander Holyfield - 4(1), 5(2), 6(1), 7(2), 8(5), 9(3), 10(4), 11(1), 12(2), 14(1), 15(1), NR(1)
    • Sonny Liston - 5(1), 6(2), 7(2), 8(1), 9(3), 10(3), 11(2), 12(6), 13(1), 14(1), NR(3)
    • Gene Tunney - 5(1), 8(1), 11(2), 12(1), 13(3), 14(6), 15(1), NR(10)
    • Ezzard Charles - 10(1), 11(3), 12(1), 13(1), 14(2), 15(4), NR(13)
    • Sam Langford - 4(1), 7(1), 9(1), 13(1), 14(1), 15(2), NR(18)
    • Jim Jeffries - 2(1), 12(1), 13(4), 15(2), NR(17)
    • Harry Wills - 9(1), 12(2), 13(2), 14(1), 15(1), NR(18)
    • Floyd Patterson - 10(1), 13(1), 14(3), 15(7), NR(13)
    • Jersey Joe Walcott - 12(3), 14(3), NR(19)
    • Riddick Bowe - 10(1), 13(2), 15(2), NR(20)
    • James J. Corbett - 5(1), NR(24)
    • MAX Schmeling - 9(1). 12(1), NR(23)
    • Vitali Klitschko - 8(1), 14(1), NR(23)
    • Ken Norton - 11(1), 14(2), NR(22)
    • John L. Sullivan - 11(1), 15(1), NR(23)
    • Michael Spinx - 10(1), NR(24)
    • James J. Braddock - 13(1), NR(24)
    • Wladimir Klitschko - 15(2), NR(23)
    • Peter Jackson - 14(1), NR(24)
    • Michael Moorer - 15(1), NR(24)
    Tags: 2009, all-time, boxingscene, consensus, heavyweight, rankings
  • #2
    Originally posted by Hawkins View Post
    This is the new consensus ranking. This consensus consisted of 25 voters. Go here for the previous ranking. In case of a tie-breaker the fighter with the highest position votes is placed ahead.
    1. Joe Louis - 352 points
    2. Muhammad Ali - 351 points
    3. Larry Holmes - 241 points
    4. George Foreman - 239 points
    5. Lennox Lewis - 223 points
    6. Jack Johnson - 216 points
    7. Rocky Marciano - 202 points
    8. Jack Dempsey - 189 points
    9. Joe Frazier - 184 points
    10. Mike Tyson - 175 points
    11. Evander Holyfield - 152 points
    12. Sonny Liston - 135 points
    13. Gene Tunney - 59 points
    14. Ezzard Charles - 36 points
    15. Sam Langford - 35 points
    16. Jim Jeffries - 32 points
    17. Harry Wills - 24 points
    18. Floyd Patterson - 22 points
    19. Jersey Joe Walcott - 18 points
    20. Riddick Bowe - 14 points
    21. James J. Corbett - 11 points
    22. Max Schmelling - 11 points
    23. Vitali Klitschko - 10 points
    24. Ken Norton - 9 points
    25. John L. Sullivan - 6 points



    Here is the way the votes tallied up. The voting position is first and the number of votes are in parenthesis. NR denotes Not Ranked.
    • Joe Louis - 1(8), 2(14), 3(2), 6(1)
    • Muhammad Ali - 1(15), 2(9), NR(1)
    • Larry Holmes - 3(11), 4(6), 5(4), 9(1), 11(1), NR(2)
    • George Foreman - 3(1), 4(4), 5(5), 6(7), 7(1), 8(2), 9(2), 10(1), 11(1), 13(1)
    • Lennox Lewis - 1(1), 3(2), 4(3), 5(5), 6(3), 7(1), 8(2), 10(4), 11(2), 13(1), NR(1)
    • Jack Johnson - 1(1), 3(4), 4(4), 5(3), 6(1), 8(3), 9(2), 10(1), 11(1), 13(2), 14(1), NR(1)
    • Rocky Marciano - 3(2), 4(1), 5(2), 6(3), 7(3), 8(5), 9(4), 10(1), 12(2), 13(1), NR(1)
    • Jack Dempsey - 3(2), 4(4), 6(3), 7(2), 8(1), 9(2), 10(2), 11(4), 12(2), 13(1), 14(1), NR(1)
    • Joe Frazier - 5(1), 6(3), 7(8), 8(3), 9(3), 10(1), 11(3), 13(1), 14(1), NR(1)
    • Mike Tyson - 2(1), 4(1), 6(1), 7(5), 8(2), 9(2), 10(4), 11(3), 12(2), 13(1), NR(3)
    • Evander Holyfield - 4(1), 5(2), 6(1), 7(2), 8(5), 9(3), 10(4), 11(1), 12(2), 14(1), 15(1), NR(1)
    • Sonny Liston - 5(1), 6(2), 7(2), 8(1), 9(3), 10(3), 11(2), 12(6), 13(1), 14(1), NR(3)
    • Gene Tunney - 5(1), 8(1), 11(2), 12(1), 13(3), 14(6), 15(1), NR(10)
    • Ezzard Charles - 10(1), 11(3), 12(1), 13(1), 14(2), 15(4), NR(13)
    • Sam Langford - 4(1), 7(1), 9(1), 13(1), 14(1), 15(2), NR(18)
    • Jim Jeffries - 2(1), 12(1), 13(4), 15(2), NR(17)
    • Harry Wills - 9(1), 12(2), 13(2), 14(1), 15(1), NR(18)
    • Floyd Patterson - 10(1), 13(1), 14(3), 15(7), NR(13)
    • Jersey Joe Walcott - 12(3), 14(3), NR(19)
    • Riddick Bowe - 10(1), 13(2), 15(2), NR(20)
    • James J. Corbett - 5(1), NR(24)
    • MAX Schmeling - 9(1). 12(1), NR(23)
    • Vitali Klitschko - 8(1), 14(1), NR(23)
    • Ken Norton - 11(1), 14(2), NR(22)
    • John L. Sullivan - 11(1), 15(1), NR(23)
    • Michael Spinx - 10(1), NR(24)
    • James J. Braddock - 13(1), NR(24)
    • Wladimir Klitschko - 15(2), NR(23)
    • Peter Jackson - 14(1), NR(24)
    • Michael Moorer - 15(1), NR(24)
    Nice to see Patterson getting some love

    Poet

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hawkins View Post
      This is the new consensus ranking. This consensus consisted of 25 voters. Go here for the previous ranking. In case of a tie-breaker the fighter with the highest position votes is placed ahead.
      1. Joe Louis - 352 points
      2. Muhammad Ali - 351 points
      3. Larry Holmes - 241 points
      4. George Foreman - 239 points
      5. Lennox Lewis - 223 points
      6. Jack Johnson - 216 points
      7. Rocky Marciano - 202 points
      8. Jack Dempsey - 189 points
      9. Joe Frazier - 184 points
      10. Mike Tyson - 175 points
      11. Evander Holyfield - 152 points
      12. Sonny Liston - 135 points
      13. Gene Tunney - 59 points
      14. Ezzard Charles - 36 points
      15. Sam Langford - 35 points
      16. Jim Jeffries - 32 points
      17. Harry Wills - 24 points
      18. Floyd Patterson - 22 points
      19. Jersey Joe Walcott - 18 points
      20. Riddick Bowe - 14 points
      21. James J. Corbett - 11 points
      22. Max Schmelling - 11 points
      23. Vitali Klitschko - 10 points
      24. Ken Norton - 9 points
      25. John L. Sullivan - 6 points



      Here is the way the votes tallied up. The voting position is first and the number of votes are in parenthesis. NR denotes Not Ranked.
      • Joe Louis - 1(8), 2(14), 3(2), 6(1)
      • Muhammad Ali - 1(15), 2(9), NR(1)
      • Larry Holmes - 3(11), 4(6), 5(4), 9(1), 11(1), NR(2)
      • George Foreman - 3(1), 4(4), 5(5), 6(7), 7(1), 8(2), 9(2), 10(1), 11(1), 13(1)
      • Lennox Lewis - 1(1), 3(2), 4(3), 5(5), 6(3), 7(1), 8(2), 10(4), 11(2), 13(1), NR(1)
      • Jack Johnson - 1(1), 3(4), 4(4), 5(3), 6(1), 8(3), 9(2), 10(1), 11(1), 13(2), 14(1), NR(1)
      • Rocky Marciano - 3(2), 4(1), 5(2), 6(3), 7(3), 8(5), 9(4), 10(1), 12(2), 13(1), NR(1)
      • Jack Dempsey - 3(2), 4(4), 6(3), 7(2), 8(1), 9(2), 10(2), 11(4), 12(2), 13(1), 14(1), NR(1)
      • Joe Frazier - 5(1), 6(3), 7(8), 8(3), 9(3), 10(1), 11(3), 13(1), 14(1), NR(1)
      • Mike Tyson - 2(1), 4(1), 6(1), 7(5), 8(2), 9(2), 10(4), 11(3), 12(2), 13(1), NR(3)
      • Evander Holyfield - 4(1), 5(2), 6(1), 7(2), 8(5), 9(3), 10(4), 11(1), 12(2), 14(1), 15(1), NR(1)
      • Sonny Liston - 5(1), 6(2), 7(2), 8(1), 9(3), 10(3), 11(2), 12(6), 13(1), 14(1), NR(3)
      • Gene Tunney - 5(1), 8(1), 11(2), 12(1), 13(3), 14(6), 15(1), NR(10)
      • Ezzard Charles - 10(1), 11(3), 12(1), 13(1), 14(2), 15(4), NR(13)
      • Sam Langford - 4(1), 7(1), 9(1), 13(1), 14(1), 15(2), NR(18)
      • Jim Jeffries - 2(1), 12(1), 13(4), 15(2), NR(17)
      • Harry Wills - 9(1), 12(2), 13(2), 14(1), 15(1), NR(18)
      • Floyd Patterson - 10(1), 13(1), 14(3), 15(7), NR(13)
      • Jersey Joe Walcott - 12(3), 14(3), NR(19)
      • Riddick Bowe - 10(1), 13(2), 15(2), NR(20)
      • James J. Corbett - 5(1), NR(24)
      • MAX Schmeling - 9(1). 12(1), NR(23)
      • Vitali Klitschko - 8(1), 14(1), NR(23)
      • Ken Norton - 11(1), 14(2), NR(22)
      • John L. Sullivan - 11(1), 15(1), NR(23)
      • Michael Spinx - 10(1), NR(24)
      • James J. Braddock - 13(1), NR(24)
      • Wladimir Klitschko - 15(2), NR(23)
      • Peter Jackson - 14(1), NR(24)
      • Michael Moorer - 15(1), NR(24)
      The time you put into this is appreciated. Thank you.

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      • #4
        I was worried Holmes would be underrated, but he's up there at three where he belongs!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hawkins View Post
          This is the new consensus ranking. This consensus consisted of 25 voters.
          • Joe Louis - 352 points
          • Muhammad Ali - 351 points
          • Larry Holmes - 241 points
          • George Foreman - 239 points
          • 5. Lennox Lewis - 223 points
          • Jack Johnson - 216 points
          • Rocky Marciano - 202 points
          • Jack Dempsey - 189 points
          • Joe Frazier - 184 points
          • 10. Mike Tyson - 175 points
          • Evander Holyfield - 152 points
          • Sonny Liston - 135 points
          • Gene Tunney - 59 points
          • Ezzard Charles - 36 points
          • 15. Sam Langford - 35 points
          • Jim Jeffries - 32 points
          • Harry Wills - 24 points
          • Floyd Patterson - 22 points
          • Jersey Joe Walcott - 18 points
          • 20. Riddick Bowe - 14 points
          • James J. Corbett - 11 points
          • Max Schmelling - 11 points
          • Vitali Klitschko - 10 points
          • Ken Norton - 9 points
          • John L. Sullivan - 6 points

          ** BS is relying upon your unimpeachable character as well as your unassailable competency.............

          Props for all the work put in, no small task moving around names and numbers. Perhaps future polls can consist of pre formulated spreadsheet formats which are filled out and then updated automatically.

          In the meantime, expect the usual suspects to blither on in the newest umpteenth thread about Big Pants Larry being underrated, yet providing no rating.

          Here is the IBRO secret polling list to compare:

          1. Joe Louis
          Muhammad Ali
          3. Jack Johnson
          Jack Dempsey
          5. Rocky Marciano
          Larry Holmes
          7. James J. Jeffries
          George Foreman
          Sonny Liston
          Joe Frazier
          11. Gene Tunney
          Lennox Lewis
          13. Mike Tyson
          Evander Holyfield
          Sam Langford
          Jersey Joe Walcott
          17. Ezzard Charles
          Harry Wills
          19. James J. Corbett
          Bob Fitzsimmons
          Riddick Bowe
          Max Schmeling
          23. Joe Jeannette
          Peter Jackson
          25. John L. Sullivan

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LondonRingRules View Post
            ** BS is relying upon your unimpeachable character as well as your unassailable competency.............

            Props for all the work put in, no small task moving around names and numbers. Perhaps future polls can consist of pre formulated spreadsheet formats which are filled out and then updated automatically.

            In the meantime, expect the usual suspects to blither on in the newest umpteenth thread about Big Pants Larry being underrated, yet providing no rating.

            Here is the IBRO secret polling list to compare:

            1. Joe Louis
            Muhammad Ali
            3. Jack Johnson
            Jack Dempsey
            5. Rocky Marciano
            Larry Holmes
            7. James J. Jeffries
            George Foreman
            Sonny Liston
            Joe Frazier
            11. Gene Tunney
            Lennox Lewis
            13. Mike Tyson
            Evander Holyfield
            Sam Langford
            Jersey Joe Walcott
            17. Ezzard Charles
            Harry Wills
            19. James J. Corbett
            Bob Fitzsimmons
            Riddick Bowe
            Max Schmeling
            23. Joe Jeannette
            Peter Jackson
            25. John L. Sullivan
            what the fcuk is your problem? you're just a bitter old bastard who gets his jollies off by attacking people on a message board. if you don't like the results fine, but to imply anything else is ludicrous.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hawkins View Post
              what the fcuk is your problem?
              ** Apparently the thin skin and bad hair you woke up with on this luverly sunshiny morn.

              No problems whatsoever with either the Ibro rankings or BS rankings. They are what they are.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LondonRingRules View Post
                ** Apparently the thin skin and bad hair you woke up with on this luverly sunshiny morn.

                No problems whatsoever with either the Ibro rankings or BS rankings. They are what they are.
                Just because you don't have the knowledge or competence to make a list, other than the abomination you put forth, you go on the offensive and make some kind of accusations?

                Tomorrow morning be sure and pop an extra prozac, and a couple of B12s, while you're drinking your prune juice because your anger disorder and senility are starting to show.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hawkins View Post
                  Just because you don't have the knowledge or competence to make a list, other than the abomination you put forth, you go on the offensive and make some kind of accusations?

                  Tomorrow morning be sure and pop an extra prozac, and a couple of B12s, while you're drinking your prune juice because your anger disorder and senility are starting to show.
                  ** My, my, I give you props and that's accusations eh?

                  Well, my young friend, time to get a grip. Prune juice in the AM much better for the disposition and constitution than the bile you keep heaving forth for reingestion.

                  At any rate I prefer a cold beer with my breakfast tacos.

                  Cheerio now............

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LondonRingRules View Post
                    ** My, my, I give you props and that's accusations eh?

                    Well, my young friend, time to get a grip. Prune juice in the AM much better for the disposition and constitution than the bile you keep heaving forth for reingestion.

                    At any rate I prefer a cold beer with my breakfast tacos.

                    Cheerio now............

                    Originally posted by LondonRingRules
                    BS is relying upon your unimpeachable character as well as your unassailable competency............
                    this is props? excuse me if I mistook it for the customary LRR veiled sarcasm used as a roundabout personal attack.

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