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  • #11
    Originally posted by edgarg View Post
    I just loked up Hamed-Barrera it was a UD, 111-117, 112-115, 112-115.
    Jarman scored 112-115. So one respected Judge scored the same, 112-115, and the otherscored it actually much wider than Jarman...................

    I couldn't be bothered looking up the other fights, I think I have a reasonable idea as to how they were scored.
    111-116 Jarman, 111-116, 119-111......................

    Just for the heck of it, I looked up another. The topic starter should have begun to cringe by now......

    Why did you pick this topic???

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    • #12
      Originally posted by edgarg View Post
      111-116 Jarman, 111-116, 119-111......................

      Just for the heck of it, I looked up another. The topic starter should have begun to cringe by now......

      Why did you pick this topic???
      Sorry, this last fight scoring was from the Marquez-Barrera fight, ANOTHER UD......

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      • #13
        Originally posted by edgarg View Post
        I just loked up Hamed-Barrera it was a UD, 111-117, 112-115, 112-115.
        Jarman scored 112-115. So one respected Judge scored the same, 112-115, and the otherscored it actually much wider than Jarman...................


        I couldn't be bothered looking up the other fights, I think I have a reasonable idea as to how they were scored.
        Originally posted by edgarg View Post
        111-116 Jarman, 111-116, 119-111......................

        Just for the heck of it, I looked up another. The topic starter should have begun to cringe by now......


        Why did you pick this topic???

        1. I'm not complaining that it was UD, Yes another judge scored it 115-112 the same as her but that was not the accurate score. Hamed lost nearly every round. She gave him 4 with the point deduction.

        2. I thought all three scorecards in the Marquez-Barrera fight were questionable. But i'm pointing her out because she has a history of controversial scores. The Marquez-Barrera and Barrera-Hamed ones were the LEAST controversial. You need to watch Campillo-Shumenov II and then get back to me on this subject.

        My overall point is that somebody who scored that fight 117-111 for Shumenov should never be allowed to judge again. This is because she was either corrupt or simply doesnt know how to score a fight.

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        • #14
          What about Eugenia Williams, the broad that scored the first Holyfield-Lewis fight for Holyfield~. She has other messed up cards also and have never seen her score a fight that I totally agreed with.

          I thought they ousted her from the sport but I have seen her judging fights recently

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          • #15
            Anyone who scored that Campillo/Shumenov 2 fight for Shumenov shouldn't judge a fight because they don't know what they are watching.

            Campillo clearly won 9 of 12 rounds.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
              What about Eugenia Williams, the broad that scored the first Holyfield-Lewis fight for Holyfield~. She has other messed up cards also and have never seen her score a fight that I totally agreed with.

              I thought they ousted her from the sport but I have seen her judging fights recently
              I havent heard about her. It's bad that she is still judging but I havent seen her in fights recently, certainly not in any big title fights. I just think when we get people like that who score fights totally wrong, I don't know why the commissioners dont pick up on it and refuse to let them judge again. I don't see why they just let it go, It makes boxing look bad.

              There is no way Patricia Morse Jarman should be allowed to judge again after her scorecard in Campillo-Shumenov II. It was disgraceful that a guy (Campillo) lost his title and recognition because of corrupt judging.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                Anyone who scored that Campillo/Shumenov 2 fight for Shumenov shouldn't judge a fight because they don't know what they are watching.

                Campillo clearly won 9 of 12 rounds.
                Agreed! The worst part is that not only did she have him winning, She had him winning 117-111. That's just disgraceful.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                  What about Eugenia Williams, the broad that scored the first Holyfield-Lewis fight for Holyfield~. She has other messed up cards also and have never seen her score a fight that I totally agreed with.

                  I thought they ousted her from the sport but I have seen her judging fights recently
                  She would definitely be the first judge I'd get rid of. It is a joke that she still scores IBF title fights.

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