Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?

[A-Wolf]

Nope. He got KTFO by a one in a million shot and lost all confidence a la Naseem Hamed when he got dominated and bullied by Barrera. Boxing is 90% mental.

[SergioMaravilla]

Nope. He got KTFO by a one in a million shot and lost all confidence a la Naseem Hamed when he got dominated and bullied by Barrera. Boxing is 90% mental.

Great fighters have recovered from brutal KO's before. Tommy Hearns, Duran, Frazier, Foreman, Lewis all recovered. As Roy couldn't, does that say something about his mental resolve? When Roy faced a tough fighter who stood up to him like Glen Johnson, Roy folded.

[SergioMaravilla]

when analysing Roy Jones career, you must distinguish between


anabolic steroid riddled Roy Jones = fights from before and up to the Richard Hall fight

clean Roy Jones = fights taken place after the Richard Hall fight












Firstly we must understand why a fighter takes banned anabolic steroids in the first place = a boxer takes banned anabolic steroids because they are scared to fight on a level playing field, they feel the need to cheat to gain an unfair advantage over their opponents because they are too cowardly to fight off a level playing field without manufactured advantages.


Its possible that all Roys best victories came when juicing, roy refused to give the IBF the urine sample they requested after the hall fight and then manufactured the infamous andro excuse. Roy was caught juicing and it took him and his people 4 weeks to come up with the "Andro" excuse.



anything Roy Jones achieved before the Richard Hall fight has a huge cloud of suspicion hanging over it at the very least.

now look at the appalling level of fighters Jones faced after being caught red handed for banned anabolic steroids in the Hall fight

- Eric Harding
- Derick Harmon
- Gonzalez
- Glen Kelly
- Clinton Woods
- John Ruiz (handpicked heavyweight, slow, no power)

absolute bog standard level of opposition - even a clean Jones could beat this standard of opposition

then Jones gets slaughtered when he steps up his level of competition for the 1st time as a clean fighter versus Tarver and Johnson

after these defeats as a clean fighter, jones again fights low level opposition, just like before in his disgraceful 175 reign and surprise surprise . . ..he wins

- Ajamu
- Hanshaw
- washed up Trinidad


A clean Roy Jones then steps up his competition again v calzaghe and is systematically dismantled by Joe Calzaghe in one of the biggest one sided beatdowns ever witnessed on american soil


Then jones goes back to his usual level of competition and the victorys roll on just like his appalling 175 reign

- washed up Lacy
- Sheika


If the performance that roy produced against Lacy was from before he tested positive for banned anabolic steroids, roys fanboys would hold it aloft alongside his performances against the likes of the legendary Dave Talesco or blow up LW Vinny Pazienza. the Lacy performance was 'superman' at his very best.

[SergioMaravilla]

Bringing back an old discussion, have people's opinions changed at all?

[boxingfeind]

At lightheavy a prime Roy beat Eric Harding who has a win over Tarver,Reggie Johnson who is a 2 division champ and got robbed in the James Toney fight,Julio Gonzalez who beat WBO champ Dariuz Michelkewski,Montel Griiffin who gave Toney 2 tough fights and lost 2 controversial decisions and Toney was an excellent fighter at any-weight when he was`nt weight drained and Virgil hill who was a top contender.

[boxingfeind]

when analysing Roy Jones career, you must distinguish between


anabolic steroid riddled Roy Jones = fights from before and up to the Richard Hall fight

clean Roy Jones = fights taken place after the Richard Hall fight










Firstly we must understand why a fighter takes banned anabolic steroids in the first place = a boxer takes banned anabolic steroids because they are scared to fight on a level playing field, they feel the need to cheat to gain an unfair advantage over their opponents because they are too cowardly to fight off a level playing field without manufactured advantages.


Its possible that all Roys best victories came when juicing, roy refused to give the IBF the urine sample they requested after the hall fight and then manufactured the infamous andro excuse. Roy was caught juicing and it took him and his people 4 weeks to come up with the "Andro" excuse.



anything Roy Jones achieved before the Richard Hall fight has a huge cloud of suspicion hanging over it at the very least.

now look at the appalling level of fighters Jones faced after being caught red handed for banned anabolic steroids in the Hall fight

- Eric Harding
- Derick Harmon
- Gonzalez
- Glen Kelly
- Clinton Woods
- John Ruiz (handpicked heavyweight, slow, no power)

absolute bog standard level of opposition - even a clean Jones could beat this standard of opposition

then Jones gets slaughtered when he steps up his level of competition for the 1st time as a clean fighter versus Tarver and Johnson

after these defeats as a clean fighter, jones again fights low level opposition, just like before in his disgraceful 175 reign and surprise surprise . . ..he wins

- Ajamu
- Hanshaw
- washed up Trinidad


A clean Roy Jones then steps up his competition again v calzaghe and is systematically dismantled by Joe Calzaghe in one of the biggest one sided beatdowns ever witnessed on american soil


Then jones goes back to his usual level of competition and the victorys roll on just like his appalling 175 reign

- washed up Lacy
- Sheika


If the performance that roy produced against Lacy was from before he tested positive for banned anabolic steroids, roys fanboys would hold it aloft alongside his performances against the likes of the legendary Dave Talesco or blow up LW Vinny Pazienza. the Lacy performance was 'superman' at his very best.

John Ruiz was a top 3 heavyweight who has an underrated right hand in which he hurt Rahman,dropped Kirk Johnson and Holyfield stopped Fres Oquendo.


Eric Harding is a solid light heavy weight,you are just a roy hater.