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  • #11
    Originally posted by Jimbo16031992 View Post
    Mayweather has been the lineal Welterweight champion of the world since he beat Baldomir in 2006, so of course this is for the lineal championship.
    Co-sign^^^

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    • #12
      yeah, sure, why not? floyd was the lineal champ and no one has beaten him since, even if he took a long time off.

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      • #13
        There is a confusion betweent he Lineage.

        Some people say it's Mayweather because he beat Mosley who won the Lineage when he fought Margarito.

        However, some people say it's currently vacant because Mosley beating Margarito wasn't for the Lineage because Paul Williams was still ranked at #2 WW when Margarito beat Cotto.

        I personally think Mayweather is the Lineal Champion because when Cotto fought Margarito Cotto was #1 and Margarito was #3 BUT Williams already had a fight signed at 154 and never returned to WW so Cotto and Margs were THE best fighters at the weight.

        Then we know the rest.

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        • #14
          Pacquiao is lineal champion so it cant be,this bull**** Ortiz Gayweather is not even HBO PPV material,its fight for Telemundo TV

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          • #15
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            There is a confusion betweent he Lineage.

            Some people say it's Mayweather because he beat Mosley who won the Lineage when he fought Margarito.

            However, some people say it's currently vacant because Mosley beating Margarito wasn't for the Lineage because Paul Williams was still ranked at #2 WW when Margarito beat Cotto.

            I personally think Mayweather is the Lineal Champion because when Cotto fought Margarito Cotto was #1 and Margarito was #3 BUT Williams already had a fight signed at 154 and never returned to WW so Cotto and Margs were THE best fighters at the weight.

            Then we know the rest.
            Thanks for clearing that up Iron.

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            • #16
              it should be...because Floyd DID beat the man who beat the man...so yea

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              • #17
                NOT AT ALL. Floyd just fell out of the rankings due to his in-activity and Ortiz is by no means any where close to being considered the lineal WW champ. Why would someone even ask this question?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by THe TRiNiTY View Post
                  Depends on how you look at it. Lineally, it might make some sense. However, Mayweather retired after beating Carlos Baldomir, so that technically vacates the championship.

                  However, he never lost it. Still, the line was broken when he retired. By definition, he is the link. However, he broke that link. Regardless of how absurd that retirement was.

                  As far as The Ring championship? No. Manny Pacquiao is rightfully number one in most people's minds. Not to mention that even if you don't believe he's number one, you couldn't knock him down below second ranking. Therefore, Ortiz, even as high as number three, wouldn't likely make it a championship match.

                  I wouldn't mind if they made it for the championship, however. Though, I think that Manny Pacquiao-Shane Mosley should have been for the championship in the first place.
                  "Though, I think that Manny Pacquiao-Shane Mosley should have been for the championship in the first place." - Shows how much you know. :wank:

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                  • #19
                    why would it be? Floyd is so inactive he isnt even a ranked WW.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by RockyB View Post
                      why would it be? Floyd is so inactive he isnt even a ranked WW.
                      Co-sign. Dude's retirement and lack of fighting dropped his lineage (easy to stay the champ if you don't fight). Lineage won't be crowned until Pac/May square off.

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