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  • Ezzard Charles vs Joe Louis

    Round 1 Charles
    Louis pressuring and stalking Charles, Charles using his
    legs and catching Louis with left hook right hand, he also
    landed a early body attack

    Round 2 Louis (close)
    Not an easy round to score, Louis was not that active but
    landed the best punch of the fight, a clean left hook on
    Charles.

    Round 3 Charles
    Charles countering and leading when he has to, particularly
    with the left hook to body & head.

    Round 4

    Another tough round to score, im gonna go for Louis as he
    upset

    Round 5 Charles
    Clear round for Charles as he landed a number of clean
    counters on Louis

    Round 6 Louis

    Both guys languished inside this round but Louis managed
    to land his stiff jab this round, he also landed a nice clean left
    hook when Charles was pulling out.

    Round 7 Louis

    Charles started well landing good clean shots but mid round
    he stopped working and Louis started to come on landing to
    the body and pressing him, Louis finished the better of the two
    imo

    Round 8 Charles

    Charles came back well this round by shooting right hands
    counters at Louis and catching him

    Round 9 Charles

    Charles landed a hard combo on Louis this round, Louis
    ralliyed toward the end but most of the round belong to
    Charles imo

    Round 10 Louis

    Both men had a decent round, Charles early, Louis late, however
    Louis pressure was decisive he started landing that punishing
    jab and short little chopy punches inside, particularly the
    uppercut.

    Round 11 Charles
    clear Charles round

    Round 12 Charles

    Charles seemed to be renergized this round as he had a bit
    more bounce in his step

    Round 13 Charles

    Charles was incharge most of the way although Joe tried to steal it by
    coming on late, however Charles was able to fight him off and keep him
    out of the round

    Round 14 Charles

    Early on Charles potshotted Louis from outside with right hands, he seem to hurt
    Louis mid way through the right, could not tell whether i was Louis eye that was
    hurting or whether a punch landed that shook Louis, Charles did land an uppercut
    and Louis voluntarily seem to want to back up like he was hurt, Charles backed him
    up and put the pressure on

    Round 15 Charles

    Charles showed remarkable fitness, he seemed to get a second wind in round 12 and
    never stopped moving and punching the whole fight, Louis's aged reflexes meant he
    found it hard to get off first and sustain action,
    Louis aged reflexes also made it hard for him to counter Charles who was quicker
    and able to counter of get off first from outside, Charles was even able to stay inside
    and bang it out with Louis when he had to. Louis jab landed some solid jabs on the
    Charles though imo.

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    • FNF's

      Renan St Juste vs Marcus Upshaw

      Round 1 Renan St Juste
      Round 2 Renan St Juste
      Round 3 Marcus Upshaw
      Round 4 Marcus Upshaw 10/8
      Round 5 Marcus Upshaw (either way)
      Round 6 Marcus Upshaw
      Round 7 Renan St Juste
      Round 8 Marcus Upshaw
      Round 9 Renan St Juste
      Round 10 Marcus Upshaw

      Poor fight, boring and lacking quality.

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      Eric Lucas vs L.Andrade

      Round 1Eric Lucas
      Round 2Eric Lucas
      Round 3L.Andrade
      Round 4L.Andrade
      Round 5Eric Lucas
      Round 6Eric Lucas
      Round 7L.Andrade
      Round 8L.Andrade

      Was probably a little kind to Lucas on one of
      those rounds, cant remember which one it was, i
      think Andrade would of gone into stop Lucas anyway

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      • Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
        FNF's

        Renan St Juste vs Marcus Upshaw

        Round 1 Renan St Juste
        Round 2 Renan St Juste
        Round 3 Marcus Upshaw
        Round 4 Marcus Upshaw 10/8
        Round 5 Marcus Upshaw (either way)
        Round 6 Marcus Upshaw
        Round 7 Renan St Juste
        Round 8 Marcus Upshaw
        Round 9 Renan St Juste
        Round 10 Marcus Upshaw

        Poor fight, boring and lacking quality.

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        Eric Lucas vs L.Andrade

        Round 1Eric Lucas
        Round 2Eric Lucas
        Round 3L.Andrade
        Round 4L.Andrade
        Round 5Eric Lucas
        Round 6Eric Lucas
        Round 7L.Andrade
        Round 8L.Andrade

        Was probably a little kind to Lucas on one of
        those rounds, cant remember which one it was, i
        think Andrade would of gone into stop Lucas anyway
        Watched the Aaron Pryor-Miguel Montilla fight from 1982. Montilla gave Pryor hell in this fight, landing right crosses and uppercuts throughout. Pryor showed no defense at all in this fight, but his non-stop punching finally put Montilla away in the 12th. Up to that point, the longest fight in the Hawk's career.

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        • Originally posted by 1SILVA View Post
          Watched the Aaron Pryor-Miguel Montilla fight from 1982. Montilla gave Pryor hell in this fight, landing right crosses and uppercuts throughout. Pryor showed no defense at all in this fight, but his non-stop punching finally put Montilla away in the 12th. Up to that point, the longest fight in the Hawk's career.
          Cant remember if ive seen that one, i have a Pryor career set and have seen most the fights, although as i said i cant remember if ive seen that one, Pryor is one of my fav fighters btw, i thought he had a great offensive skillset, i think he would of been very difficult to fight for a good defensive fighter like Mayweather, the way he never stays infront of you when getting a combination off, always moving to the side to change the angle to mount another attack.

          He would not sit on the ropes against shell up against Pryor.

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          • Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
            Cant remember if ive seen that one, i have a Pryor career set and have seen most the fights, although as i said i cant remember if ive seen that one, Pryor is one of my fav fighters btw, i thought he had a great offensive skillset, i think he would of been very difficult to fight for a good defensive fighter like Mayweather, the way he never stays infront of you when getting a combination off, always moving to the side to change the angle to mount another attack.

            He would not sit on the ropes against shell up against Pryor.
            IMO, Pryor was the greatest 140 pounder of all time. His style is eerily similar to Pac-Man. Pryor had his most trouble against tall, rangy fighters (Montlla, Arguello, Kameda, Johnson), and he was relentless as a mf'er. Beating Mayweather wouldn't be easy, but at 140, Mayweather doesn't have the power to defeat Pryor.

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            • Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
              Julio Cesar Chavez vs Lonnie Smith

              Round 1 Even

              Smith running like a ***** the whole round

              Round 2 Chavez

              Chavez cutting the ring down on Smith and landing
              a couple of body shot, he also landed a right hand over
              Smith's jab

              Round 3 Chavez

              Smith landed a two good right hands on Chavez but Chavez
              closed better pressing Smith, too much running from Smith

              Round 4 Chavez.

              Smith still running, although he did respond to a Chavez attack
              this round, however toward the end Chavez was pressing him
              again, oh!, Chavez also landed a good right hand this round

              Round 5 Chavez

              Smith is not running now but more walking he seems to have
              tired from all the running Chavez's pressure was more evident
              this round because Smith was more stationary target, Smith
              knee'd Chavez in the balls at one point but got away with it.

              Round 6 Chavez

              Good round for Chavez as the pressure it getting hotter and
              hotter in Smith, Chavez is starting constantly chip away at him

              Round 7 Chavez

              Round 8 Smith (kind)
              Smith did a bit better this round but he is still running
              too much imo.

              Round 9 Chavez

              Round 10 Chavez
              Smith landed the best punch of the round of Chavez but
              Chavez came back and tried to put the pressure on an
              effort to stop Smith, he ran out of time however

              Round 11 Chavez
              Big Chavez round as he looked on the verge of stopping
              Smith

              Round 12 Chavez

              Smith ran like a ***** all night long, Chavez did his usual
              excellent job of cutting the ring down and applying the
              pressure.

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              Hearns vs Butler

              Round 1 Hearns

              Butler did okay early landing the odd jab and going
              to Hearns's body at one point, however tha woke Hearns
              up who was landing his left hook to the body and landed
              the best punch of the round toward the end, a solid right
              hand

              Round 2 Hearns 10/8

              Butler did okay early landing two cuffing right hands
              but Hearns nailed him with a right hand that dropped him

              Round 3 Hearns

              Not much in this round as Hearns used his legs and lot but
              did not score much, neither did Butler though, however Hearns
              landed a good rigt hand toward the end.

              Round 4 Butler

              Gonna give this round to Butler as Hearns was a bit negative
              and Buter was more aggressive and went to the body effectively

              Round 5 HearnS 10/8
              Not much in this round early on, however toward the end
              Hearns landed a right hand, then a counter right hand, then
              another right hand that dropped Butler

              Round 6 Hearns
              Butler was nailing Hearns to the body and head on the ropes
              early on, however Hearns seem to get angry at that and came
              off the ropes pushed Butler back and started landing his
              right hand, he also landed his left hook to the body.


              Round 7 Hearns

              Hearns two right hands down the stretch took this round
              where by not much happened

              Round 8 Even
              I dont usually score even rounds but neither man established
              superiority in this round and i could not split them.....

              Round 9 Butler

              Thought Hearns dictated the pace but that Butler landed the
              better punches, he landed the odd hook and a couple of right
              hands.

              Round 10 Hearns
              Butler's early pressure was winning it but his workrate
              dropped off down the stretch and Hearns finished the stronger
              and pinched the round im.

              Butler showed a decent defense in the fight as Hearns seemed
              to miss a lot of shots throughout the fight, Hearns could fight
              on the backfoot and use his legs because Buter is slow footed,
              he also had success pushing Butler back, pretty poor fight to watch.

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              Hearns vs Baez

              Round 1 Hearns

              Battle of the jabs early but Hearns found the
              range with his right hand toward the end and seemed
              to hurt Baez, he then let the combo's go

              Round 2 Hearns

              Hearns maintaining height and distance, using the jab
              , and setting up counter right hands

              Rounsd 3 Baez (kind)

              Not much in the round but Baez put more pressure on
              this round

              Round 4 Hearns stops by Baez but hurting him with a right
              hand then peppering him with combo's to force the ref to
              step in


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              Hearns vs Hutchings

              Round 1 Hearns

              Hearns wobbled Hutchings early in the round, Hutchings
              seemed to recover his legs momentarily but toward the mid
              to late part of the round was getting nailed again with
              big punches and was dropped twice, 10/7

              Round 2 Hearns

              Hearns got his jab going early and landed the occasional
              right left hook combo, however down the stretch he was
              back to nailing Hutchings with solid punches, left and rights

              Round 3 battle of the jabs early, Hearns actually caught a few
              clean jabs but toward the end started letting that right hand go
              and put Hutchings in trouble again, corner came onto save
              their man Hutchings from more of a beating.

              Hearns does take jabs to face, seems to have little defense for
              it.
              Hutchings fought too tight from the get go and that caused him
              to reach with the jab, he was just far to tight and fought scared
              Hearns teed off on him when he zeroed in.
              Watched the Hearns-Hutchings fight last night. A one-sided beating. Hutchings was taller than Hitman, but not in the same universe. Mercante should have stopped this fight in the first, as Hutchings was out on his feet after getting up from the second knockdown. In the 3rd, he was taking a frightful beating when his cornerman ran into the ring to stop the fight. The Hitman was ferocious this night.

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              • Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                Randy Shields vs Tommy Hearns

                Round 1 Hearns

                Hearns got the jab going early that started to set
                up the right hands, Shields tried to rush him at one
                point and got hit with left hooks on the way in,
                Hearns also landed his left to the body in the clinch

                Round 2 Hearns
                Took this round on the jab

                Round 3 Hearns
                Hearns using the jab and setting up his right hand, he also
                caught Shields coming in this round with the left hooks

                Round 4 Hearns
                huge round for Hearns as he landed a serious of big
                right hands that were hurting Shields

                Round 5 Hearns

                Hearns landing left hooks to the body of Shields this round

                Round 6 Hearns

                Hearns pressuring behind the jab, also landing his straight
                right to the body

                Round 7 Hearns

                Not much in the round but Hearns landed a few rights toward
                the end

                Round 8 Hearns

                Hearns picked it up again this round by using the jab
                to set up his right hands

                Round 9 Hearns
                Good round for Hearns as he landed some big right hands
                and committed to the body attack hammering Shields to the
                body

                Round 10 Hearns

                Some crunching left hooks this round by Hearns

                Round 11 Hearns

                Round 12 Hearns
                Not much happened early in the round but Hearns poured
                it on down the stretch, they should of stopped this fight ages
                ago as Shields has been taking a beating for how many rounds

                Ringside doctor stopped the fight, wise decision, Shields took far
                too much than he should of had to

                I dont know what Shields was trying to do in this fight, sure he was
                outgunned, but he might aswell have taken it to Hearns then let
                Hearns systematically pummel him round by round, Hearns for his
                part fought a very patient fight, used the jab well, landed crunching left
                hooks to the body and just dominated centre ring as he stalked Shields
                and peppered him with jab that set up his big right hands,
                it was a case of rinse and repeat almost every round.

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                Julian Jackson vs Ron Collins

                Round 1 Collins
                I felt Collins landed 3 straight lefts on Jackson that just
                edged a round where not much happened.

                Round 2 Jackson

                Lots of pressure from Jackson this round he nailed Collins
                and the ropes seemed to hold him up, Jackson also
                hammered Collins body throughout the round

                Round 3 Jackson
                Jackson staggered Collins 3/4 times in this round,
                he was on jelly legs and looked ready to go, Jackson
                just could not find the finisher.

                Round 4 Collins(kind)

                Being kind to Collins as this was a tough round to score
                Jackson seemed to take most the round of due to doing
                so much in the last round trying to knock Collins out but
                he did come back toward the end of the round, however
                i gave it to Collins

                Round 5 Collins came out and tried to stay inside and fight with
                Jackson, big mistake, he got nailed with a big left hook that dropped
                him and had him on spaghetti legs, the ref waved it off as his legs
                had clearly gone. Collins got hurt numerous times in this fight
                but managed to survive, somehow, partly because of Jackson's poor
                finishing prowess, also because Collins was able to slip the punches of
                Jackson.
                What i loved about the hearns-Shields fight was Cosell's commentary. He gave hearns credit for fighting a patient fight and gave credence to his jab, which was like a machine in this fight. Shields was a tough cookie, having gone the distance with Leonard and Cuevas. In the 9th, Leonard told Cosell how he believed it was great strategy to go deep in the fight with Hearns because he felt Hearns' power decreases as the fight went longer. Cosell also gave tremendous praise to Manny Steward and was on his A-game despite the one-sided beating this fight produced.

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                • Originally posted by 1SILVA View Post
                  What i loved about the hearns-Shields fight was Cosell's commentary. He gave hearns credit for fighting a patient fight and gave credence to his jab, which was like a machine in this fight. Shields was a tough cookie, having gone the distance with Leonard and Cuevas. In the 9th, Leonard told Cosell how he believed it was great strategy to go deep in the fight with Hearns because he felt Hearns' power decreases as the fight went longer. Cosell also gave tremendous praise to Manny Steward and was on his A-game despite the one-sided beating this fight produced.
                  Yeah i was impressed by his patience, did'nt like how much punishment Shields had to take before they finally decided to stop it, that was just uncalled for imo, something you dont like to see.

                  Even though Leonard won the fight with Hearns i bet he had his reservations after watching that performance by Hearns Lol, of coarse Ray was a much better fighter, but Hearns did look like a beast of a proposition.

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                  • Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                    Yeah i was impressed by his patience, did'nt like how much punishment Shields had to take before they finally decided to stop it, that was just uncalled for imo, something you dont like to see.

                    Even though Leonard won the fight with Hearns i bet he had his reservations after watching that performance by Hearns Lol, of coarse Ray was a much better fighter, but Hearns did look like a beast of a proposition.
                    I don't know if Leonard was a much better fighter than Hearns, just a little bit better than Hearns. Hearns had the better jab and power, but Leonard was the smarter fighter with a better chin and stamina. They both had tremendous hearts and both legends of the sport, with Leonard having the slight edge. Dynamite, who are your 10 favorite fighters of all time? Mine are as follows:

                    Ali
                    Hearns
                    Arguello
                    Toney
                    Chandler
                    Hopkins
                    Mayweather
                    McCallum
                    Bowe
                    Benitez

                    The only time I ever lost sleep after a fighter lost was when Ali lost to Spinks and Holes and when Hearns lost to Leonard

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                    • Originally posted by 1SILVA View Post
                      I don't know if Leonard was a much better fighter than Hearns, just a little bit better than Hearns. Hearns had the better jab and power, but Leonard was the smarter fighter with a better chin and stamina. They both had tremendous hearts and both legends of the sport, with Leonard having the slight edge. Dynamite, who are your 10 favorite fighters of all time? Mine are as follows:

                      Ali
                      Hearns
                      Arguello
                      Toney
                      Chandler
                      Hopkins
                      Mayweather
                      McCallum
                      Bowe
                      Benitez

                      The only time I ever lost sleep after a fighter lost was when Ali lost to Spinks and Holes and when Hearns lost to Leonard


                      Agree, i guess you might say that Leonard was the more robust of the two, btw, did you think Hearns had stamina problem? i saw the fight with Harold Weston and he seemed to tire in that fight, at the time he blamed it on the heat in the arena, also i think the commentators did actually mention how hot it was in the arena (on the telecast), the reason i ask is because he seemed to tire against Ray Leonard, however he did not look tired at all against Shields, admittedly not a fast pace fight but still whats your take on that?

                      My fav fighters are in my sig for the most part, although i also like Bowe, he is easily my fav HW after Evander, Bowe reminds me of Terry Norris in a way, aggressive as hell, value for money, they both seemed to enjoy beating people up. PS, i also have a lot of respect for Hopkins.


                      Leonard/Hearns? what a tremendous fight that was though eh? your older than me so i should imagine it has a special place in your heart, i know your a Hearns fan but im sure you can still appreciate what a great fight that was, what was so astonishing about it, and what makes it such a great fight to me, was how many times the balance of power shifted in the fight, it went one way then the other, one guys takes control, then the other guy takes control, thats what makes it such a great fight imo, two guys who kept adjusted to what each other was doing, just great to watch.


                      I had to reset my computer so lost my card to the Rocky Martinez fight, one of the rounds of the year in that fight though imo.

                      Vasquez jr vs Bedak

                      Round 1 Bedak

                      Bedak landed his jab a few times, landed his right to the
                      body, he also closed out the rounds a little catching Vasquez
                      with a cuffing left hook combo

                      Round 2 Vasquez jr
                      Vasquez jr landed with the jab and countered with his
                      right hand over Bedak's left jab

                      Round 3 Bedak (either way/kind)
                      Tough round to score, gonna go for Bedak as he landed
                      the harder/cleaner shots, albeit he was a bit inactive

                      Round 4 Vasquez jr

                      Vasquez jr more active, Vasquez jr used the jab throughout
                      and that set up his right hands, Bedak a little too inactive

                      Round 5 Vasquez jr

                      Good round but a big round for Vasquez jr, Vasquez jr landed
                      a big right hand that seemed to hurt Bedak, he then poured
                      it one and went toe to toe with Bedak trying to take him out
                      Bedak did well to weather the storm and take the shots

                      Round 6Vasquez jr

                      Vasquez jr outboxing Bedak by using the jab and
                      maintaining distance, Bedak standing round looking
                      for one single counter that is not coming because
                      Vasquez jr is keeping it at long range and not stepping
                      into mid range where Bedak can counter him

                      Round 7 Vasquez jr

                      Bedak has seemed to tire a lot in the last 2 rounds or so,
                      Vasquez jr landing his right hand again early in the round

                      Round 8 Vasquez jr
                      Vasquez jr landed his hard right hands on Bedak this round
                      he looked as though he was about to stop Bedak but
                      Bedak hung in there, Bedak looks very tired

                      Round 9 Vasquez jr
                      Not much in the round early but both tried to take it down
                      the stretch, whilst Bedak landed solidly on Vasquez jr, Vasquez jr
                      also landing solid shots on him to and closed a little better imo

                      Round 10 Bedak was throwing a shot at the same time as
                      Vasquez jr and walked into a big right hand that hurt him,
                      Vasquez jr stepped in and landed another big right hand
                      that dropped him, Bedak looked hurt so his corner waved
                      it off, although he seemed to want to continue, he would of
                      been stopped anyway, had he been allowed to go on


                      Vasquez jr maintained distance throughout the fight over the shorter Bedak
                      who stood around looking to pick up single counters, however he could only get
                      off sporadically as Vasquez jr did not give up his height very often, he refuse to
                      lay in mid range where Bedak could get off, he maintained distance and made full use of his
                      reach advantage, the upside to that for Vasquez was he was able to dictate & shut
                      down the offense of Bedak, whom became very inactive due to this, he also
                      tired as he when he did get the chance to throw a counter he would load up
                      and put everything into it, by the mid rounds he looked very tired.

                      Good stoppage, good/solid performance by Vasquez jr

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