Who ranks higher Joe Calzaghe or Wladamir on the atg list?

[daggum]

True, but we cant fault either for not wanting to fight their own brother... although that'd be a ppv I'd be willing to buy.

Pac-Floyd and Wlad-Vitali in 2012

you can't just not fight the 2nd best fighter in your division and expect a great legacy. he's only fighting half the contenders while vitali fights the rest and he's not fighting the best guy in his division. nothing great about that.

and don't give floyd any ideas. his next excuse will be "pac's my brother. i can't possibly fight him."

[-DSG-]

wladimir has beaten everyone in front of him the undisputed champ, calzaghe faced a lot of stiffs

[Larry the boss]

wladimir has beaten everyone in front of him the undisputed champ, calzaghe faced a lot of stiffs

no.no Joe beat everyone put in front of him was undisputed at 168.Wlad HAS NOT BEAT EVERYONE PUT IN FRONT OF HIM(SANDERS PURRITY)AND IS NOT UNDISPUTED.vitali has the WBC

[daggum]

no.no Joe beat everyone put in front of him was undisputed at 168.Wlad HAS NOT BEAT EVERYONE PUT IN FRONT OF HIM(SANDERS PURRITY)AND IS NOT UNDISPUTED.vitali has the WBC

they are making the case for calzaghe and they don't even know it. if only they got the facts right...oh well... calzaghe won all 4 belts, calzaghe was also the real champ at 168. he beat the number 2 guy. he didn't avoid the number 2 guy and fight the number 3 guy to become ring champ like wlad. fake.

[Weebler I]

Cazaghe's career and image is a person who avoided all the big fights

Vlad fights whoever and is mostly around "calzaghes" aka duckers

Nobody cares that he got those things they mean almost nothing.

So Wlad fights whoever and if he doesn't it's because he's being ducked...convenient.

Fighters don't often duck the champions if they're being offered enough money.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

darn you! he's been open to facing all challengers....except the number 1 challenger! small little detail. calzaghe and ottke ran the same scam that vitali and wlad are running now.

neither guy is an all time great but calzaghe at least beat the best guy in 2 divisions although hopkins was dubious. wlad's only beaten the best guy once and he's been ko'd 3 times.

Dubious?

Dubious?

You've caved! Im disaapointed.

[Weebler I]

True, but we cant fault either for not wanting to fight their own brother... although that'd be a ppv I'd be willing to buy.

Pac-Floyd and Wlad-Vitali in 2012

I'm sure the Klitschkos have fought each other many, many times.

[daggum]

Dubious?

Dubious?

You've caved! Im disaapointed.

super duper dubiously biggest robbery of all time. mormeck landed more punches than calzaghe. happy?

[jermainerambo]

This is a outage how can wladimir klitschko be winning the poll:****you:

wladimir got obliterated 3 times and been knocked down about 10 times

Wladimir made 11 defences in a row and been champion for 6 years


joe calzaghe made 21 defences in a row and was champion for 11years

[Weebler I]

This is a outage how can wladimir klitschko be winning the poll:****you:

lol it's 9:30am in the UK, give it a few hours.