If old Vitali beat Haye in 2013 would the Klitschko haters give him credit?

[yoz]

They were absolutely terrified of one another. At least Wladimir took the initiative, though.

Haye was there to survive.

[FrankieBruno]

They were absolutely terrified of one another. At least Wladimir took the initiative, though.

Haye was there to survive.

Haye fought with zero defense, hardly a guy who was there to survive

Its very difficult to fight a big tall fella who just illegally leans on you every time you get on the inside

Wlad didnt want to engage, once he got in the ring he could see Haye was very quick and that put him off from letting his hands go. When Wlad was unable to pull off his illegal leaning, Haye caused all kinds of problems for him

[FrankieBruno]

Wlad simply didnt want to fight, he spent the entire fight throwing his jab and then running away or leaning, you'd have thought Wlad being the bigger guy wud try to trade instead of being on the backfoot all night.

[yoz]

I guess the difference is, Haye ran his mouth before the fight about how he'd have Wladimir on all fours, crawling around the ring.

Apart from that one punch, he offered little; allowing Wlad to win rounds just by throwing the jab. It'd be interesting to see the power punch stats.

[FrankieBruno]

I guess the difference is, Haye ran his mouth before the fight about how he'd have Wladimir on all fours, crawling around the ring.

Apart from that one punch, he offered little; allowing Wlad to win rounds just by throwing the jab. It'd be interesting to see the power punch stats.

Wlad said he was going to knock him out and give him a pizza face, so lets not go down the the route of Haye said this and Haye said that.

Haye threw less power punches but landed more, there was a small difference in the amount thrown though.

Haye threw 42 more power punches than Wach


After 4 rounds Haye had thrown 84 punches. Klitschko 73.





compubox stats for the full fight

Power Punches Klitschko Haye
Landed 29 36
Thrown 133 119
Percent 22% 30%



The jab won it for Wlad, as well as the illegal leaning which he did in every round, and he didnt want to engage in a fight, Wlad spent the entire fight on the backfoot, he just couldnt cope with the speed and reflexes and didnt want Haye anywhere near him.

Wlad was the bigger guy but fought like a Big Puss...I can see why he is advising Vitali not to fight Haye, because he knows Vital will not cope with the speed and also Vital isnt a big puss when he gets in the ring, he will come forwards and end up getting knocked out, and then Wlad will have to give Haye a rematch and well he doesnt want to risk that.

[Skittlez]

Wlad did nothing but win via jabs..

Haye get all the **** because he talked so much trash prior to the fight.

If Haye had been humble and Wlad was the one talking, Wlad will be trashed non stop.

FROM A NEUTRAL point of view... that fight made BOTH guys look bad.

Wlad was scared to death..


You say what's the difference between Tua- Lewis and Wlad- Haye?



1- Lennox TOYED with Tua.. Right hands, jabs, dancing, upper cuts, overall clowning. Total domination.

You don't get the sense that Wlad toyed with Haye. All you got was one guy jabbing another guy. You just don't get that sense.

2- Haye left himself 10x more open than Tua did. Tua spend the ENTIRE fight covered up and in full fetal defensive position, Haye was fighting with his hands down the entire night and showing no defense what so ever.

3-Lennox never promised to KO Tua. He told everyone it was going to be a 'science boxing match' a 'sparring session'.

Wlad lied and said he was gonna KO Haye. He didn't even come close.

Haye went matrix on his azz.