Tony Zale defends his World Middlwieght Title against Marcel Cerdan
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Tony Zale vs Marcel Cerdan Fight Film *Rare*
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I didn't even realize this footage existed, excellent find (quite a recent upload). Zale is one of the all-time great middleweights and Cerdan is perhaps the last truly great French fighter.
The trilogy with Graziano just took everything Zale had left (although he looked great in the third fight). I recall Graziano saying later that he thought he might (and was prepared to) have died, the stoppage was pretty exceedingly late by modern standards (punctuated by one of the best KOs ever, although Graziano was already out on his feet).
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Originally posted by Tengoshi View PostI didn't even realize this footage existed, excellent find
Originally posted by Tengoshi View PostThe trilogy with Graziano just took everything Zale had left (although he looked great in the third fight). I recall Graziano saying later that he thought he might (and was prepared to) have died, the stoppage was pretty exceedingly late by modern standards (punctuated by one of the best KOs ever, although Graziano was already out on his feet).
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Originally posted by Southpaw16bf View PostIndeed there is no douting, Zale and Grazaino took something out deep inside of them, in there epic trilogy of fights. But I still feel even before the two had there 3 bouts, Cerdan still would of beat Zale, and I always thought Grazaino was very lucky not stepping inside the ring with Cerdan.
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Originally posted by Tengoshi View PostIt's hard to say, that Zale-Cerdan-LaMotta roundelay was quite confusing. LaMotta was past his prime when he beat Cerdan, oddly enough. Zale I think was clearly past his prime, perhaps from the start of his comeback.
The start of Zale's comeback after the war was rather impressive, Zale won his first 12 fights back, including the win over Graziano and wins over few tough cookies. In his post war comeback he was only defeated by 2 hall of famers in Graziano(which he avenged twice) and Cerdan. Other than that he wasn't beaten. He may have not been as good as he was pre the war, but he was rather impressive considereing the time that had been tooken off his career.
And also going into the Cerdan fight he was on a 4 fight win streak, and was coming of a brillant KO win over Graziano the third time. This by many is viewed as Cerdan's best ever win, virtually dominating Zale from start to finsih, and ending with matters with a brutal KO.
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Originally posted by Southpaw16bf View PostI still feel Cerdan would of beat Zale anytime in his career, do alot of people think Cerdan was past his best when he was fighting in the U.S.A.
The start of Zale's comeback after the war was rather impressive, Zale won his first 12 fights back, including the win over Graziano and wins over few tough cookies. In his post war comeback he was only defeated by 2 hall of famers in Graziano(which he avenged twice) and Cerdan. Other than that he wasn't beaten. He may have not been as good as he was pre the war, but he was rather impressive considereing the time that had been tooken off his career.
And also going into the Cerdan fight he was on a 4 fight win streak, and was coming of a brillant KO win over Graziano the third time. This by many is viewed as Cerdan's best ever win, virtually dominating Zale from start to finsih, and ending with matters with a brutal KO.
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Originally posted by Tengoshi View PostThere's not much evidence to go on, Zale had a strange record with a lot of losses and appeared to be a late bloomer. Definitely a great comeback run. No question that Zale was Cerdan's best win.
All in all pre war he had 16 losses and some to very medicore oppostion. But on his day and in form, Zale was a good fighter, very tough and a big puncher and a great body puncher who always gave 100%.
Another underrated win for Cerdan, is defensive genius Holan Willaims, a black fighter who like so many was not given the chances. Williams held wins over Archie Moore, Charley Burley and Lloyd Marshall, Cerdan beat him on a UD points victory in 1946.Last edited by Southpaw16BF; 05-15-2009, 12:34 PM.
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Originally posted by Tengoshi View PostIt's hard to say, that Zale-Cerdan-LaMotta roundelay was quite confusing. LaMotta was past his prime when he beat Cerdan, oddly enough. Zale I think was clearly past his prime, perhaps from the start of his comeback.
his fights with sugar prove my point.
but I rank basilio above lamotta. basilio was one badass onion farmer.
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Originally posted by Flicker Jab View Postlamotta was a better boxer than cerdan, zale, or graziano.
his fights with sugar prove my point.
but I rank basilio above lamotta. basilio was one badass onion farmer.
And what was the need to bring Carmen Basilio into the subject? Completey out of the blue?......
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