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Old 04-12-2009, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TheManchine View Post
He went undefeated for 3 years because he retired for 3 years and came back in 1985, beating padded up Argentinean competition and losing 3 times by KO.



Bob Arum isn't exactly a good source to use. Like the old saying goes, if Bob Arum told me the sky was blue I'd look up and see it for sure.

Dundee bought into the Ayala Jr hype as did D'Amato to the Rosario hype. The fact is that there have been much better prospects in history.



Charlie Weir beat a lot of people that Ayala Jr did and did it more impressively. He KO'd Gregory before Ayala did, KO'd Nicanar Camacho whom Ayala Jr went the distance with, KO'd Cheatham in 3 (Ayala did it in 6).

He also had wins over middleweights Mike Colbert and Kevin Finnegan who gave Marvin Hagler some of his toughest fights. Despite this he was only ranked number 6 while Ayala was number 2.

Mike McCallum beat a former champion Ayub Kalule in 1982 yet he was still not rated above Ayala Jr.



Those were only rumours. Cuevas was no more than 17-18 years old himself when he was knocking out world champions.
.Bob Arum may make alot of hype up (as all promoters do) but he still been in the game a pretty long time and knows boxing rather well.

.And a comment coming from Dundee like that is pretty impressive, when he has been around and trained fighters like Ali, Leonard, Napoles etc.

.You say the Ayala/Cuevas Spar was only rumous, this is no rumour and is a true story, and Cuevas was 20 years of age and was on his 4th defence of his WBA Welterweight Title and was one of the best Welterweights in the world and Pound 4 Pound one of the hardest hitters in boxing.

.And the Rating i posted up were from Sep 82, and Mike McCallum defeated Ayub Kalule in Nov 82 a month after.
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