Originally Posted by Perro
Kellerman is a complete idiot. He even went so far as to say that if he got up before the N in TEN the he beat the count. What a moron!
I thought that was hilarious. Talk about over-analysed.
Originally Posted by damian5000
I'm not saying Cintron won that fight...Far from it. But you really think it would of been better if Martinez won by fake KO due to the ref MISTAKINGLY counting to 10 even though Cintron was up?
Cintron wasn't really up though, which was the point they were all discussing. After the replays it showed that he started to get up at ten. As Kellerman said, his knee's were lifted a millisecond before the 'N' of ten. I would have counted him out too, and I don't think the ref made a mistake. He even hesitated very slightly as if trying to give Cintron a chance to hurry the f*ck up and get up.
I think the big thing missing here is that no matter what the ref was doing or anything else, Cintron was being counted
. If he thought it was a head-butt or a damn kick in the nuts, it doesn't matter. What matters is that he has to try and get up before ten. He didn't really try and the ref counted him out. Starting
to get up when the ref is saying ten is not really trying very hard. He could have been up by eight easily, he was just *****ing.
Edit: So, was that eventually counted as a KD? That would mean that Cintron was KD twice, out-landed, out-boxed badly and still managed to pull out a draw? That really has to be one of the worst decisions in recent years.