Originally Posted by dan_cov
Jack3d was banned & its now a new formula which evidently is a load of rubbish.
As for Craze, another overhyped formula and hundreds of thousands counterfeits going around that even most retailers can not spot the difference with.
You could buy the ingredients separate from a bulk suppliers that is screened and tested if need be and it would be a lot cheaper in the long run.
I mean what are allegedly in most of these pre workouts? 200mg caffeine per serving, 3g creatine monohydrate & a few amino's thrown in for good measure.
Costs pennies to make. You're just paying for the brand.
It's not banned, they were removing 1,3..
My store here still carries it with 1,3