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OR Manny would have pushed to hurt the older man like Pascal did a few times and get the much older man out of there to make a statement. The fact is that for the first three rounds Hops was giving CD A LOT of trouble with his style and it was because of the style we were initially using...once we adjusted that around the 4th and 5th, and once Chad hit his stride around the 6th, it was a decisive victory. But even with that, no one is going to look great beating Hops no matter who is training him. Come on, you know him well enough through the years to know that.