Originally Posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
Cleto, but you didn't get me homie, if God knows everything, is all powerful and knows what will happen BEFORE it happens, why would he create Lucifer knowing he would turn into the devil?
Please don't give me this "He works in mysterious ways" BS bro, if god claims to love us so much, why would he create the one thing that would condemn millions of his children to an eternal torture?
The whole story is ridiculous man when you really sit and think about it. You know why I stopped believing in god? Because I actually did some research on where the stories from the Bible, Torah and Quran came from and found out that the resurrection, being born of a virgin, being the son of a carpenter, being crucified and even the miracles Jesus supposedly did were all taken from other, more ancient stories and texts.
Just like 3,000 years ago in ancient Greece they believed in Zeus, we believe in Jesus and Allah. In 3,000 years from now, school children will be studying Jesus and Allah the way we study Greek mythology.
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Ok here is my answer to that. God is a supernatural being. A spirit. At first before he created man and before he created angels He existed alone. Elohim self existed One. In order to be God which means object of worship he had to create beings that would worship him. So He did creating the angels in heaven that worship him . He had in Him a desire to be a Savior to show his Love.
In order to express that attribute he had to have something that was evil. in the current state everyone he created had eternal life and were not lost . Lucifer was once Gods right hand angel but found sin in him. Pride was the first sin. He wanted a better kingdom then Michael the Arc angel had. Lucifer gathered his own angels that followed him and his ideas which were call fallen angels. God created hell kicked him out of heaven him and his followers. So there was a split in heaven. When God created the Man Adam he created him perfect Godly in his ways. Lucifer was jealous once again he wanted the power Adam had. So he knew the only way to get to adam was through eve. So he deceive her and caused death to the human race.
That why we come the the world as sinners because of what eve did and Adam walked out with her. God knew all this already. Remember he wanted to express the attribute as a savior from the beginning. know that the human race comes to the world speaking lies and has an unclean nature God came down in a form of Man to die for the sins of the world. to save them from the deceit of Satan. not everyone will heed to that but those that except will be saved. You chose you you will serve. Its in us to worship something as God created us thus. You may worship your car or worship money .
God put it in us to worship Him. Our minds arent capable to understand that God never had a begining all we knew is a time and the measley 70 years or less of life we have here and yet we think God is unfair or his decisions are wrong. who are we to judge someone that put us here on earth and who we will meet and give an account for what we did in this life one day.