He can't beat Ward, nor should he have to, some styles just aren't right for you and there is PLENTY of ATG with unavenged losses, may of them unavenged KO losses
If he beat Kessler, another top guy say Dirrell, and then went up and beat a Dawson then i'd say he was an ATG
he's pretty much borderline HOF at the moment
Last edited by Tyrone Biggums!; 11-22-2012 at 06:55 AM.