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I think that's really stretching. I consider Marciano an all time great for what he accomplished during his era. I try to keep it in perspective. Head to head I see him losing to a number of all time heavyweighhts including Frazier and Foreman. Obviously you aren't keeping this in the same perspective. I can never prove it but I can sure use his history to form an opinion.
Originally Posted by Mintcar923
I think Rocky had a better chin. I just can't see Frazier beating him head-to-head. I'd even go far as to say that he'd wear down and stop young Foreman, as well. It would be a little similar to the Lyle fight but a different result.
Marciano never beat anybody in his entire career to make a claim for beating Foreman. If Walcott and Moore could hurt Marciano it's not a stretch to see the much bigger Foreman blowing him out. Nobody ever came close beating Foreman in the style Marciano used. And yes, size would matter in this one because Foreman would move Marciano around with ease. A smaller fighter taking it to Foreman would not be healthy.
Lyle and Marciano are nothing alike in terms of their size or style. Lyle was a 6-3 220 plus boxer-puncher who worked of his jab. Marciano was a 5-10 185 pound crouching, swarming, punishing fighter. So what criteria are you using to claim it would be similar?
Marciano had a better chin based on what? Because he never took one from Foreman? That seems to be the only explanation I can see.