Originally Posted by Japanese Boxing
He's right when it's on the INSIDE you can do the palm down hook. I have a trainer who most would consider old school I suppose and I see a lot similarities in them rofl. When we're talking just punches, I usually assume we are talking from a distance, or after a 1-2 in most situations :P
In the Freddie Roach video he says setting it up after a 1-2. Most guys will miss if they don't step in on the hook. That doesn't mean you step in with every hook you have but if you're hitting the bag and going reps you'd step in and do palm down. I wouldn't go palm down without the step in. My left hook is my bread n butter. Roach is just on the bag, and its a basic instructional.
Yes you are correct, it was just assumed in this thread that one was better than the other. I posted the Weldon video because he explains how both are correct but it depends on distance because of the natural movement of the hand and arm.
When your close, palm down is more of a natural movement and palm open is better form distance. Again, my point was that even though the fancy, flashy things are nice to look at, boxing has changed very little in over 100 years for a reason, the fundamentals work.
I have walked in to gyms where "trainers" are teaching young and brand new fighters the philly shell and the roger mayweather mitts, before they even know how to step, move and pivot.
Everyone has their preference and style but like I said, I teach my kids the basics and drill them into them so they have something to fall back on and it's always relevant to actual boxing in the ring.