Originally Posted by paulf
I always believe these results are accurate, IMO. No offense to anyone.
I grew up poor and went to an all black high school, but because I had two intelligent parents, that both came from homes with two intelligent parents, I was miles and miles ahead of my minority classmates from my first day of school. Hell, I could already read pretty well when I started kindergarten. Way ahead of everyone else. In 7th grade, there were TONS of kids having difficulty with four and five-letter words on spelling test.
Many kids, some definitely white but a whole lot more minority, have to struggle and play catch up to their more well-off white and asian counterparts with less resources. It's difficult, and there is no real solution to the problem that schools, tests, gov't, ect. can provide.
The reason why some asian and white families are wealthier is because the previous generations of their families worked very hard. I don't know about white families but with my asian family, my great-grandfather was a multimillionaire in the 1950's but the communists pretty much took everything from our family. So my grandfather and granddad were ridiculously poor -shanty town poor. Fast forward 2 generations later and we are looking good with our family full of medical doctors, accountants and bankers.
I don't believe you need tutoring to be amazingly good. Poor families can become rich within a few generations and that happens in this day and age but it requires a superhuman effort on the part of the parents. The main reason why some kids do better than others is a combination of genetic, environmental (socioeconomics). I'll try to break it down into parts.
1) Genetics - I believe genetics does have a role. I wasn't particularly a hard worker when i was in my secondary school. I even got top 5 in my country on a biology A-level (taken at 16-18) paper after only studying all night for it. I do believe genetics helps but i also believe the environmental factor also plays a role, and it's a relatively bigger one.
2) Environment - I believe some black/hispanic families have issues such as gang influence as well as viewing hardworking individuals as being nerdy or geeky when that's obviously the right attitude to have.
Also, i've heard that some black/hispanic dads don't usually stick around and because of this, a single mother will struggle to bring up a kid the right way. A lot of asian families have a very strong family background regardless of their financial status.
So with that being said, they will work and spend all their money on their children in the hope of going up the socioeconomic ladder.
I believe if you took a poor asian family and compared that to a poor hispanic or black family then the only difference between them will be the attitude to work (it being a good thing) and the fact that the asian family will put all their monies and work in trying to culture the best environment for that child to shine in school. I've heard that some black/hispanic families tend to buy iphones and other bling items but if you are spending a lot of money on bling items and you are poor, how do u expect to buy books/tutoring for your kids?
3) what needs to change is that we shouldn't keep on crying racism when asian/white kids do better on selective tests. I do believe that black people as a whole were screwed and put behind because of the slavery issue. With that being said, i believe more things should be done to support black/latino families to culture their work ethic. Maybe an after school club/tutoring system should be financed in the worst areas.
I don't believe that black and latino people have low IQs as a genetic factor. I think the IQ scores of black/latino people will increase when they catch up eventually although that will take a few decades or more. I hate it when people say asian/white people have higher IQs and that it's genetic. It shows how ignorant/racist some people are.
OFF TOPIC (but then on topic later)
If you look at China right now. China used to be the leading force in world development with regards to inventing gunpowder, bricks etc. They had a huge developmental lead compared to the rest of the world. Then white people took over and they pretty much invented most things for many years. But now china is catching up. Hopefully in another 50 years, things will be more equal between china and the western world, so that the infrastructure will be there for chinese people to start inventing more and more things. This can only be good for the world. I dislike it when people try to use race to cause friction and reduce race relations. We are all human beings. We need to learn to live together in peace and harmony.
Also, i'm aware of the chinese stereotypes that exist today. Such as chinese people being rude and being short etc. You can quote me on this in a few decades time, but china was 50 years behind development wise compared with the western world and most of the country (90%) were peasants.
This is a fact. A lot of peasants don't care about manners. But as china improves it's wealth, it's citizens will improve their manners and they will also eat better and get bigger. Nowadays with the internet, it has influenced the young chinese population since they get to read about western stories and culture etc. This is the same as what will happen with black/latino families as more and more start to realise that even poor families can become rich with a generation as long as the child is given book and a good environment to nuture his or her talents. Nowadays with the internet, it has influenced the young chinese population since they get to read about western stories and culture etc
Hopefully in several hundred years, China and India, and most countries will be on an even level and then we'll see a huge rise in inventions and good things will come to the human race.