On second thought: Stepping on PAC's foot won Juan some rounds !!

[King of Sting]

Natural for a Orthodox and Southpaw to clash heads/step on feet. Pac did it too. The ref was standing right there in the ring and saw it as incidental contact. Pac's corner made zero complaints during the fight about it. Pac didn't under perform he got outclassed by a great boxer. You are just trying to find ways to take credit from a great Marquez performance. Every time JMM faces Pac the same thing will happen over and over again.

Juan's performance was what I expected, he seemed to have pivoted more and stepped on Dumbquiao's foot alot more for this fight though, lol.

I expected Dumbquiao to apply more pressure, but, he tried the whole idea of counter the counter-puncher a lil too much. It's not necessarily a bad strategy, but, I expected him to counter the counter-puncher while moving forward.

Instead, what Dumbquiao/Roach had in mind was let Juanita lead with his counter and then step back a lil and counter Juantita's lead counter.

But, Dumbquiao's sense of distance was so bad, that even when they were able to let Juanita's lead out, he stepped back too far to capitalize on it. I was envisioning DUmbquiao to slip and bob punches and then countering the Juanita's counter, not, stepping back and countering himself, get it ?

At the end of the day, PAC committed way too many tactical errors, and I don't think it was forced by Juanita

[Boxingtech718v2]

Juan's performance was what I expected, he seemed to have pivoted more and stepped on Dumbquiao's foot alot more for this fight though, lol.

I expected Dumbquiao to apply more pressure, but, he tried the whole idea of counter the counter-puncher a lil too much. It's not necessarily a bad strategy, but, I expected him to counter the counter-puncher while moving forward.

Instead, what Dumbquiao/Roach had in mind was let Juanita lead with his counter and then step back a lil and counter Juantita's lead counter.

But, Dumbquiao's sense of distance was so bad, that even when they were able to let Juanita's lead out, he stepped back too far to capitalize on it. I was envisioning DUmbquiao to slip and bob punches and then countering the Juanita's counter, not, stepping back and countering himself, get it ?

At the end of the day, PAC committed way too many tactical errors, and I don't think it was forced by Juanita

Yawn, what I saw was that Marquez brilliantly control the distance and make Pac fight his type of fight.

When Pac tried to attack JMM would take a slight step away and use his longer reach to tag pac rushing in.

When JMM attacked pac would try to counter by using his "improved" right hook but it wasn't finding the target.

Marquez used good combinations to the head and body but kept them short most of the night to limit Pac's ability to counter or land his own offense.

Pac tried multiple times to lure JMM into a war but JMM just kept the fight at his range and Pac where he wanted him.

Pac even tried to pull a bit of a Mayweather and caught JMM with a couple of Pot shots where Pac would dart in land a single punch and dart out. But JMM adjusted and stopped that.

When Pac did try to move to the right Jmm would step to the left and pivot keeping Pac in the same position. It didn't work because JMM made constant adjustments real time in the ring. The advantage of being a smart boxer is that you don't have to wait for your trainer to make adjustments for you.

[mccready]

See? This is why Floyd prefers to have fantasy fights instead of real fights. All this controversy is a real hassle, you know? Who has the time? It's a lot easier to beat someone in your head than in the ring.

[tatangb45]

Damn pac fans are really butt hurt about this foot stepping thing. Do I really have to post the vid of Pac doing the same thing to Marquez in the fight also?


Calm down even Roach said that it didn't matter or effect the fight. What next Pac should get 10 min water breaks between rounds to prevent cramps?

Very poor comparison.
On rd.1, it was clearly accidental. Pac immediately took off his foot.
In the rd. 2 two clip, their feet were touching each other, neither was stepping on the other.

On the other hand, on rd. 1 alone, Jmm was stepping on Pac's foot at 1:11. :32, :14 and :11.
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On rd. 2 JMM stepped on Pac's foot at 1:06, :26, and one more time just before the round ended.
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On rd. 3, the video caught Jmm twice, at 2:29 and :09. 0 for Pac.
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On rd. 5, the video showed JMM 3 times, Pac 0. At 1:26, :17 and :14.
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On rd. 6, it showed JMM doing it at 1:17.
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In just 5 rounds, Marquez was caught on video stepping on Pac's foot 13 times. A great portion of the videos did not include the action taking place below the hips. How many more of these infractions not caught on video is anybody's guess.
Take note also that Marquez was lifting his foot a few inches above the surface and was stepping forward in a straight line towards Pac's foot, not outside of it.
In Pac's case, the videos caught him stepping clearly on Marquez's foot once, only on rd.1, and he took it off in a split second. What these videos clearly showed was Pac trying to put his right foot outside of Marquez's left foot, and he hardly stepped on Marquez.

[cyutetrick]

these ideas of marquez intentionally stepping on pacs foot are childish c'mon guys really. I know you guys like pac but c'mon seriously

[tatangb45]

these ideas of marquez intentionally stepping on pacs foot are childish c'mon guys really. I know you guys like pac but c'mon seriously

Read and watch the videos in the post above yours. It might change your mind.

[littlemac]

Damn pac fans are really butt hurt about this foot stepping thing. Do I really have to post the vid of Pac doing the same thing to Marquez in the fight also?


Calm down even Roach said that it didn't matter or effect the fight. What next Pac should get 10 min water breaks between rounds to prevent cramps?

Naw man....they just need to time their fights better around Manny's menstrual cycles.......

[#CaneloKhan]

F.uck pacquaio and F.uck his fans IM tired of all his fans, none of them have anything else to do but to talk about him and not even logical just talking out their ass. They dont know boxing, should lock them all into the pinoy section. why not we dont want to hear their nonsense let them talk to them selves.

[tatangb45]

F.uck pacquaio and F.uck his fans IM tired of all his fans, none of them have anything else to do but to talk about him and not even logical just talking out their ass. They dont know boxing, should lock them all into the pinoy section. why not we dont want to hear their nonsense let them talk to them selves.

Why? Are you scared of the truth?
Watch these videos again and see if you can deny that they didn't happen.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11451557&postcount=14

[littlemac]

F.uck pacquaio and F.uck his fans IM tired of all his fans, none of them have anything else to do but to talk about him and not even logical just talking out their ass. They dont know boxing, should lock them all into the pinoy section. why not we dont want to hear their nonsense let them talk to them selves.

The Pacquaio ship is sinking quickly dude. We are finally seeing the decline in *******ation. Look how the polls are looking now. Look how the media is now turning on this fraud. Even In this Pac friendly forum your now seeing Polls exposing this fraud. Just seat back and enjoy the collapsation of the *******os and Arum.