Originally Posted by Pirao
No they don't and I have already proved why, you muppet, unless you consider the RING, ESPN, and other publication's staff blind.
Repeating the same thing over and over when it's already been disproven, pathetic but not surprising.
LOL, you aren't very bright, are you? Skills are clearly visible thru film, things such as the jab, slipping punches? parrying, feinting, combination punching and defense. Whats not always visable, and the reason fight picks by experts are sometimes wrong, are the intangables of a fight such as toughness and will to win. So all your ducking of my question and refusal to give your OPINION on what i asked is for not, because you're still dead wrong, you just dont want to admit Helenius isn't as skilled as Witherspoon because it sinks your whole, lame argument.