I was watching this today for the 2nd or 3rd time....
I actually felt so bad for Frazier, I dont know if its just a biased view, but everything showed in the documentary, I had seen before, like Ali calling him a gorilla, the abuse he got, being called an Uncle Tom etc
Ali literally turned people against this guy, and I do like Ali, and respect him and do see him as the best heavyweight of all time....But I think he was definitely intimidated by Fraziers presence. Thats why he said so much to try get under his skin. It actually made me think, damn if I was a boxing fan at the time, I probably would have been cheering for Frazier.
Seeing parts when Fraziers son said they had to have protection, the family recieved death threats etc....Its just so wrong, and to think, that situation was not getting help from Ali continuously bad mouthing Frazier.
I know trash talk happens in boxing (and Ali was the king of it) but damn, he took it so far....too far. I dont even think he realised how bad he was acting himself.
I actually wonder if Ali would have stood up if the fight had gone on, he looked so drained, even collapsing to the floor at the end, even his trainer said he was asking for his gloves to be cut off.... Saying that, I couldnt imagine him not getting back up, he had 2 much pride.
Anyway, I just thought how strange it is, all the bad mouthing that Ali did to frazier, and then seeing how it can change so many peoples views on a person....
Does anyone think its a bit similar, how as soon as the Mayweather family bad mouthed Pacquiao, Pacquiaos got constant **** from people, where as before all he had virtually were fans?
(This threads mainly about the Ali and Frazier part so dont go to off topic =P just thought it was a good contrast)
I actually felt so bad for Frazier, I dont know if its just a biased view, but everything showed in the documentary, I had seen before, like Ali calling him a gorilla, the abuse he got, being called an Uncle Tom etc
Ali literally turned people against this guy, and I do like Ali, and respect him and do see him as the best heavyweight of all time....But I think he was definitely intimidated by Fraziers presence. Thats why he said so much to try get under his skin. It actually made me think, damn if I was a boxing fan at the time, I probably would have been cheering for Frazier.
Seeing parts when Fraziers son said they had to have protection, the family recieved death threats etc....Its just so wrong, and to think, that situation was not getting help from Ali continuously bad mouthing Frazier.
I know trash talk happens in boxing (and Ali was the king of it) but damn, he took it so far....too far. I dont even think he realised how bad he was acting himself.
I actually wonder if Ali would have stood up if the fight had gone on, he looked so drained, even collapsing to the floor at the end, even his trainer said he was asking for his gloves to be cut off.... Saying that, I couldnt imagine him not getting back up, he had 2 much pride.
Anyway, I just thought how strange it is, all the bad mouthing that Ali did to frazier, and then seeing how it can change so many peoples views on a person....
Does anyone think its a bit similar, how as soon as the Mayweather family bad mouthed Pacquiao, Pacquiaos got constant **** from people, where as before all he had virtually were fans?
(This threads mainly about the Ali and Frazier part so dont go to off topic =P just thought it was a good contrast)
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