This is pretty long but I HAD to share it.
The other day I was watching a highlight video of Mayweather and I noticed there was a guy called TGUNZ562, saying Floyd is the greatest of all time. He was talking about how much greater Floyd is than Whitaker ever was. I said something to the affect of "Gimme a break lol".
This is what happened next...
FIRST MESSAGE FROM TGUNZ562
Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the greatest fighter of all time. He would of beat Ray Robinson. He would of beat Ray Leonard. Floyd's defense is superior to Sweet Pea's. The proof is in the pudding. Watch the fights. Pernell took way more punches than Floyd has. No boxer has ever accomplished what Mayweather has and took less damage. Iam a boxing nut. This sport is my life. I have watched and studied every fight of any substance since 1900.Floyd Mayweather's resume is flawless. I love Pernell Whitaker, don't get me wrong, but better than Floyd Mayweather Jr. he is not. There are no two fighters who I have studied more than Pernell Whitaker and Floyd Mayweather Jr., with maybe the exception of Aaron Pryor. Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the greatest fighter of all time and a lot of that has to do with him having the best defense of all time. Offense sells tickets and PPVs, but defense wins championships
MY FIRST REPLY
Why didn't you just post in the video?
Anyway, the first part of your post just sounds like satire. FMJ better than Ray Robinson? All you're doing is insisting your position is correct. You're making blind assertions and not backing them up with any facts. Mayweather's resume is flawless? Why? Because he's undefeated? Surely you can't mean he's fought the best competition. I could name 10 guys off the top of my head with better resumes.
Whitaker never lost a fight clearly until he fought Trinidad. Whitaker was WAY past his prime, had a drug problem and still went 12 rounds with Trinidad who was a giant killer of a welter weight. Is that what you mean when you say he got hit more than Floyd? If you've really seen as much boxing as you claim, you would have seen the first Castillo fight where Floyd took many solid punches. You would have seen Floyd get rocked by Corley and knocked down by Judah. Whitaker also has a greater resume and has beaten better competition. That's why ring magazine had him ranked the 9th greatest fighter of the last 80 years.
See, you can't just make things up as you go along and not present any evidence to back them up.
SECOND MESSAGE FROM TGUNZ562
Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the only fighter to ever beat Genaro Hernandez at 130 pounds. You insist on facts, yet you make incorrect statements. Zab Judah did not knock Floyd down. The only time Floyd ever has had a official knockdown was against Carlos Hernandez. This knockdown was a result of Mayweather taking a voulentary knee! He hurt his hand punching Hernandez, it was not a result of ANYTHING Hernandez did to Floyd. Diego Corrales, regardless of what he went on to become, was the most feared man in the division when Floyd knocked him down 5 times and eventually out. Corrales was freakishly tall for the weight class and was an undefeated one punch KO artist. The only person who was rocked in Mayweather/Corley was Corley. He got knocked down twice, in the 8th round as well as in the 10th. THESE are facts. The bull**** you were saying is a bunch of fantasy that you made up in your head. The Ring NEVER ranked Pernell Whitaker the 9th greatest fighter of all time. I own an issue of The Ring in which they ranked the greatest LIGHTWEIGHTS ever. Pete barely cracked the top 20, so nowhere in the Ring pages has he cracked the top 10 EVER. I know my ****. Don't come at me with all this **** you fictionalized and expect me not to call you out on it. Floyd is by far the most unhittable fighter to ever live. Pernell Whitaker without question endured more damage in his career than Floyd has in his. Floyd has never been in any kind of serious trouble let alone been knocked down. Juan Manuel Marquez is going to find out exactly how good Floyd is on July 18th. I doubt you'll have the balls to message me after that display of brillance. All personal opinions and bias aside, EVERYthing you said about Floyd Mayweather was either a complete lie or at the very least inaccurate
MY SECOND REPLY
Actually Judah did knock Floyd down. Watch the video on youtube if you haven't seen the fight. Richard steele incorrectly ruled it a slip. It was clearly a knockdown. But that's really beside the point. Lets get back those facts you were talking about.
"I own an issue of The Ring in which they ranked the greatest LIGHTWEIGHTS ever. Pete barely cracked the top 20, so nowhere in the Ring pages has he cracked the top 10 EVER."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Ma..._Last_80_Years
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Willie Pep
7. Harry Greb
8. Benny Leonard
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Pernell Whitaker
Pwned.
What I would recommend to you is that before you start talking, you should learn a little bit about what you're talking about. At the very least, don't say Floyd is the greatest fighter of all time while you call other people bias and inaccurate. You're just making a complete fool of yourself which I assume is the reason you sent me a private message instead of simply continuing in public. If you weren't so aggressive, you wouldn't look like such an ******* when you sit around making this **** up.
"The bull**** you were saying is a bunch of fantasy that you made up in your head."
How ironic lol
I THEN HAD TO MESSAGE HIM AGAIN BECAUSE
By the way...
"I own an issue of The Ring in which they ranked the greatest LIGHTWEIGHTS ever. Pete barely cracked the top 20, so nowhere in the Ring pages has he cracked the top 10 EVER."
The issue you're refering to is the september 2001, issue of The Ring. They gave a list of the grestest Lightweights of all time.
This is The Ring's list.
1. ROBERTO DURAN
2. BENNY LEONARD
3. PERNELL WHITAKER
4. JOE GANS
5. IKE WILLIAMS
6. JOE BROWN
7. CARLOS ORTIZ
8. TONY CANZONERI
9. BOB MONTGOMERY
10. BEAU JACK
11. LOU AMBERS
12. FREDDIE WELSH
13. SHANE MOSLEY
14. HENRY ARMSTRONG
15. ESTEBAN DeJESUS
16. KEN BUCHANAN
17. JACK McAULIFFE
18. ISMAEL LAGUNA
19. AD WOLGAST
20. OSCAR DE LA HOYA
Pwned again.
I await his reply lol
The other day I was watching a highlight video of Mayweather and I noticed there was a guy called TGUNZ562, saying Floyd is the greatest of all time. He was talking about how much greater Floyd is than Whitaker ever was. I said something to the affect of "Gimme a break lol".
This is what happened next...
FIRST MESSAGE FROM TGUNZ562
Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the greatest fighter of all time. He would of beat Ray Robinson. He would of beat Ray Leonard. Floyd's defense is superior to Sweet Pea's. The proof is in the pudding. Watch the fights. Pernell took way more punches than Floyd has. No boxer has ever accomplished what Mayweather has and took less damage. Iam a boxing nut. This sport is my life. I have watched and studied every fight of any substance since 1900.Floyd Mayweather's resume is flawless. I love Pernell Whitaker, don't get me wrong, but better than Floyd Mayweather Jr. he is not. There are no two fighters who I have studied more than Pernell Whitaker and Floyd Mayweather Jr., with maybe the exception of Aaron Pryor. Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the greatest fighter of all time and a lot of that has to do with him having the best defense of all time. Offense sells tickets and PPVs, but defense wins championships
MY FIRST REPLY
Why didn't you just post in the video?
Anyway, the first part of your post just sounds like satire. FMJ better than Ray Robinson? All you're doing is insisting your position is correct. You're making blind assertions and not backing them up with any facts. Mayweather's resume is flawless? Why? Because he's undefeated? Surely you can't mean he's fought the best competition. I could name 10 guys off the top of my head with better resumes.
Whitaker never lost a fight clearly until he fought Trinidad. Whitaker was WAY past his prime, had a drug problem and still went 12 rounds with Trinidad who was a giant killer of a welter weight. Is that what you mean when you say he got hit more than Floyd? If you've really seen as much boxing as you claim, you would have seen the first Castillo fight where Floyd took many solid punches. You would have seen Floyd get rocked by Corley and knocked down by Judah. Whitaker also has a greater resume and has beaten better competition. That's why ring magazine had him ranked the 9th greatest fighter of the last 80 years.
See, you can't just make things up as you go along and not present any evidence to back them up.
SECOND MESSAGE FROM TGUNZ562
Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the only fighter to ever beat Genaro Hernandez at 130 pounds. You insist on facts, yet you make incorrect statements. Zab Judah did not knock Floyd down. The only time Floyd ever has had a official knockdown was against Carlos Hernandez. This knockdown was a result of Mayweather taking a voulentary knee! He hurt his hand punching Hernandez, it was not a result of ANYTHING Hernandez did to Floyd. Diego Corrales, regardless of what he went on to become, was the most feared man in the division when Floyd knocked him down 5 times and eventually out. Corrales was freakishly tall for the weight class and was an undefeated one punch KO artist. The only person who was rocked in Mayweather/Corley was Corley. He got knocked down twice, in the 8th round as well as in the 10th. THESE are facts. The bull**** you were saying is a bunch of fantasy that you made up in your head. The Ring NEVER ranked Pernell Whitaker the 9th greatest fighter of all time. I own an issue of The Ring in which they ranked the greatest LIGHTWEIGHTS ever. Pete barely cracked the top 20, so nowhere in the Ring pages has he cracked the top 10 EVER. I know my ****. Don't come at me with all this **** you fictionalized and expect me not to call you out on it. Floyd is by far the most unhittable fighter to ever live. Pernell Whitaker without question endured more damage in his career than Floyd has in his. Floyd has never been in any kind of serious trouble let alone been knocked down. Juan Manuel Marquez is going to find out exactly how good Floyd is on July 18th. I doubt you'll have the balls to message me after that display of brillance. All personal opinions and bias aside, EVERYthing you said about Floyd Mayweather was either a complete lie or at the very least inaccurate
MY SECOND REPLY
Actually Judah did knock Floyd down. Watch the video on youtube if you haven't seen the fight. Richard steele incorrectly ruled it a slip. It was clearly a knockdown. But that's really beside the point. Lets get back those facts you were talking about.
"I own an issue of The Ring in which they ranked the greatest LIGHTWEIGHTS ever. Pete barely cracked the top 20, so nowhere in the Ring pages has he cracked the top 10 EVER."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Ma..._Last_80_Years
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Willie Pep
7. Harry Greb
8. Benny Leonard
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Pernell Whitaker
Pwned.
What I would recommend to you is that before you start talking, you should learn a little bit about what you're talking about. At the very least, don't say Floyd is the greatest fighter of all time while you call other people bias and inaccurate. You're just making a complete fool of yourself which I assume is the reason you sent me a private message instead of simply continuing in public. If you weren't so aggressive, you wouldn't look like such an ******* when you sit around making this **** up.
"The bull**** you were saying is a bunch of fantasy that you made up in your head."
How ironic lol
I THEN HAD TO MESSAGE HIM AGAIN BECAUSE
By the way...
"I own an issue of The Ring in which they ranked the greatest LIGHTWEIGHTS ever. Pete barely cracked the top 20, so nowhere in the Ring pages has he cracked the top 10 EVER."
The issue you're refering to is the september 2001, issue of The Ring. They gave a list of the grestest Lightweights of all time.
This is The Ring's list.
1. ROBERTO DURAN
2. BENNY LEONARD
3. PERNELL WHITAKER
4. JOE GANS
5. IKE WILLIAMS
6. JOE BROWN
7. CARLOS ORTIZ
8. TONY CANZONERI
9. BOB MONTGOMERY
10. BEAU JACK
11. LOU AMBERS
12. FREDDIE WELSH
13. SHANE MOSLEY
14. HENRY ARMSTRONG
15. ESTEBAN DeJESUS
16. KEN BUCHANAN
17. JACK McAULIFFE
18. ISMAEL LAGUNA
19. AD WOLGAST
20. OSCAR DE LA HOYA
Pwned again.
I await his reply lol
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