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    I used to think this guy was great, but I just rewatched his fight against Sharmba Mitchell, and it made me reconsider.

    Mitchell was physically dominated by Mayweather, who is a small welterweight. He is too small/short to be fighting at 147, and he is a bit over-the-hill... although I think that everyone gives him a lot less credit than he deserves... an old fighter moving up to fight against prospects usually do a lot worse.

    Anyways, Mitchell actually made quite a bit on contact on Williams, which obviously didn't phase him, because he has such a great chin (which he didn't even need against Mitchell)... It also seems to be a problem if someone relies on outworking their opponent as an A strategy, because the perfect counter to that seems to be defense.

    So his two main fights could pose serious problems for him.

    Mayweather has the defense, which means he might be able to beat him. Also, his arms are measured at 26 inches (in arm length, not wingspan, the statistic that is actually important for comparing reach), which is the same as Mayweather's. I think Mayweather would have a lot less problems with Williams than most think (because some are predicting a wipeout for Williams).

    On the other side of the coin, Miguel Cotto hits hard as hell, and has some good technique to go along with it now. We all know that Williams has a hell of a chin, but his body really hasn't been tested. Cotto's body shots do a ton of damage, and it could end up that he gets dropped for the count because of the body shots. The other advantage to body shots is that they sap the energy of an opponent, meaning that if the body shots do take their toll on Williams, he will have a hard time throwing a zillion punches, which means that Cotto would start racking up the rounds. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Williams hasn't shown the the technique to outslick an opponent if need be.

    All of this being said, it isn't a sure deal that any fighter wins any of these fights. I still don't know who I would pick for either of these two fights for Williams if either were ever signed.

    Thoughts?

  • #2
    Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
    I used to think this guy was great, but I just rewatched his fight against Sharmba Mitchell, and it made me reconsider.

    Mitchell was physically dominated by Mayweather, who is a small welterweight. He is too small/short to be fighting at 147, and he is a bit over-the-hill... although I think that everyone gives him a lot less credit than he deserves... an old fighter moving up to fight against prospects usually do a lot worse.

    Anyways, Mitchell actually made quite a bit on contact on Williams, which obviously didn't phase him, because he has such a great chin (which he didn't even need against Mitchell)... It also seems to be a problem if someone relies on outworking their opponent as an A strategy, because the perfect counter to that seems to be defense.

    So his two main fights could pose serious problems for him.

    Mayweather has the defense, which means he might be able to beat him. Also, his arms are measured at 26 inches (in arm length, not wingspan, the statistic that is actually important for comparing reach), which is the same as Mayweather's. I think Mayweather would have a lot less problems with Williams than most think (because some are predicting a wipeout for Williams).

    On the other side of the coin, Miguel Cotto hits hard as hell, and has some good technique to go along with it now. We all know that Williams has a hell of a chin, but his body really hasn't been tested. Cotto's body shots do a ton of damage, and it could end up that he gets dropped for the count because of the body shots. The other advantage to body shots is that they sap the energy of an opponent, meaning that if the body shots do take their toll on Williams, he will have a hard time throwing a zillion punches, which means that Cotto would start racking up the rounds. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Williams hasn't shown the the technique to outslick an opponent if need be.

    All of this being said, it isn't a sure deal that any fighter wins any of these fights. I still don't know who I would pick for either of these two fights for Williams if either were ever signed.

    Thoughts?

    mmm very interesting didn't know his fight with mitchell was difficult thanks man.

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    • #3
      i think paul williams is a good fighter but he is overrated along with miguel cotto.. Paul caught alot of shots from mitchell and if mitchell had a more power paul probably would of lost in my opinion..paul williams has alot of holes in his defense and he has negative accuracy, but the accuracy issue may be due to the fact that he throws a 1,000 punches per round.. or may he throws 1,000 punches a round because he doesnt have accuracy.. either way he is a good fighter but he still needs to accomplish more to even be considered elite as far as his weight class goes..

      if paul williams fought mayweather i think paul would lose
      if williams fought cotto i think he would win but it could go either way really
      i also think williams would beat cintron and defeat margarito in a rematch

      cotto and williams should fight eachother before calling out the Elite guy in their division

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
        I used to think this guy was great, but I just rewatched his fight against Sharmba Mitchell, and it made me reconsider.

        Mitchell was physically dominated by Mayweather, who is a small welterweight. He is too small/short to be fighting at 147, and he is a bit over-the-hill... although I think that everyone gives him a lot less credit than he deserves... an old fighter moving up to fight against prospects usually do a lot worse.

        Anyways, Mitchell actually made quite a bit on contact on Williams, which obviously didn't phase him, because he has such a great chin (which he didn't even need against Mitchell)... It also seems to be a problem if someone relies on outworking their opponent as an A strategy, because the perfect counter to that seems to be defense.

        So his two main fights could pose serious problems for him.

        Mayweather has the defense, which means he might be able to beat him. Also, his arms are measured at 26 inches (in arm length, not wingspan, the statistic that is actually important for comparing reach), which is the same as Mayweather's. I think Mayweather would have a lot less problems with Williams than most think (because some are predicting a wipeout for Williams).

        On the other side of the coin, Miguel Cotto hits hard as hell, and has some good technique to go along with it now. We all know that Williams has a hell of a chin, but his body really hasn't been tested. Cotto's body shots do a ton of damage, and it could end up that he gets dropped for the count because of the body shots. The other advantage to body shots is that they sap the energy of an opponent, meaning that if the body shots do take their toll on Williams, he will have a hard time throwing a zillion punches, which means that Cotto would start racking up the rounds. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Williams hasn't shown the the technique to outslick an opponent if need be.

        All of this being said, it isn't a sure deal that any fighter wins any of these fights. I still don't know who I would pick for either of these two fights for Williams if either were ever signed.

        Thoughts?
        I think Mayweather would punish Williams.....he throw the lead right the gets the **** out the way...Mayweather UD.

        I used to think Paul could beat him..not any more though.

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        • #5
          You guys are clowns. Just because he got hit flush and laughed at the guy and then knocked him down four times doesn't mean anything. His fight vs Mitchell was a wipe out, as have been all of his fights. It's funny the Margarito fight was his toughest but he won 9 rounds easy. If you think Mayweather's arm length is the same you have issues. 82" INCH REACH...he must have the broadest shoulders of all time if him and Mayweather have the same arm length. That's bull****. It's reach, wingspan, not b.s. arm length. HBO said Margarito had the same reach. Williams would destroy Mayweather, could Mayweather lay against the ropes and do his shoulder roll against a guy with that much reach, that good of a chin, top notch stamina and throws over a hundred punches a round??? Get a life

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          • #6
            Uh I don't think he struggled that much with Mitchell he ***** slapped him for the majority of the fight. And Paul still has room for improvement. His chin is beyond good. I know he gets hits easy but he can take it for now and his output would be too much for Mayweather. And I believe he's gonna be great when given the opportunity to fight bigger names.


            How many guys with the reach advantage of Williams have an excellent inside game? Probably not many. This guys stamina is good too and he's not slow at all. He's a beast flat out. And he has basically destroyed everyone they threw in front of him. With the exception of Marg. He didn't destroy him he just boxed his ears off.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NAPO View Post
              mmm very interesting didn't know his fight with mitchell was difficult thanks man.
              It wasn't tough though... you know? Taylor had trouble with Spinks, but it wasn't a tough fight for him. Abner Mares got hit more than he should have against that Damian Marchiano guy, but it wasn't like it was hard for him.

              Here's the youtube link for the first part:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOmz3gKZHJY

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Luciano View Post
                You guys are clowns. Just because he got hit flush and laughed at the guy and then knocked him down four times doesn't mean anything. His fight vs Mitchell was a wipe out, as have been all of his fights. It's funny the Margarito fight was his toughest but he won 9 rounds easy. If you think Mayweather's arm length is the same you have issues. 82" INCH REACH...he must have the broadest shoulders of all time if him and Mayweather have the same arm length. That's bull****. It's reach, wingspan, not b.s. arm length. HBO said Margarito had the same reach. Williams would destroy Mayweather, could Mayweather lay against the ropes and do his shoulder roll against a guy with that much reach, that good of a chin, top notch stamina and throws over a hundred punches a round??? Get a life
                So what you are saying is that if an inferior opponent can connect a lot against Williams, that won't hold true for better, fresher opponents? Interesting... Someone should hire you to analyze boxing.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
                  It wasn't tough though... you know? Taylor had trouble with Spinks, but it wasn't a tough fight for him. Abner Mares got hit more than he should have against that Damian Marchiano guy, but it wasn't like it was hard for him.

                  Here's the youtube link for the first part:
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOmz3gKZHJY

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                  • #10
                    yo winky have you lost your mind?? comparing his fight vs mitchell to spinks arguably beating taylor?? LOL yeeea...somebody needs to hire YOU as a boxing analyst. Williams throws over a hundred punches a round, of course he'll get hit, but he's impossible to hurt...he'll land 5 for every Mayweather one...and everytime he gets hit he comes right back. lefthook knows his ****...unlike u

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