Silencers

Specifically, this is the kinda thing I raised slight concerns about regarding Pac keeping Margo in the middle, watching this, do you still think he will be able to run Margo into shots, given that Margo was able to catch Williams on the tail end from time to time, and Pac being shorter than Williams, thus meaning he will be closer in range for those type of punches? just throwing it out there, see what you think...


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I didn't think it would! happen, just a minor concern I had, cause Margo seemed to hit Williams quite a bit in the last few rounds of their fight, although I take the point Williams is not as quick as Pac.

That sounds sensible, only reservations I had, was that if he surrendered any ground, that he might not get it back against Margo, although having thought about it, with how quick Margo tries to close distance, I guess Manny's fast feet, pivoting with help him do what you said.

Basically, no. I don't think Pacquaio even has to be 100% to decisively beat Margarito.

Do you think Margo, because of how long he is, could catch Pac on the tail end if Manny keeps the fight in the centre, tries to peck away at Margo from range?

Where do you envisage Pac operating from, middle of the ring, or letting Margo come foward, and if he does allow Margo to come foward, could that be dangerous in terms of, Margo can be pretty relentless on the front foot when he has a momentum?

Do you have any concern that there might come a time in the fight where Pac takes his foot off the gas, and that, that could be a pivotal moment in the fight as to whether Margo can get something going in that small window of opportunity if Pac is looking to pinch a break? might Margo, in that period, be able to break Pac's rhythm up somewhat, get him away from what he is doing, or hurt him etc?

Hey Silencer, we probably spoke about this before, but has anything changed for in terms of who you think will win out of Margo-Pac?

At first I anticipated that Pac would win decisively, now im not sure, although that could be me reading too much into the hype shows etc.

I think he will be a tough fight, a lot closer than I first anticipated, although I still think Pac will edge it, but before I thought it was a 70/30 fight for Pac, now I think its 60/40, 45/55.

Cont'd....

I thought Poon should've went to the body earlier and more often. Lee was only countering body shots sporadically and Poon was able to land the jab-right to the body and jab to the body often. Though I guess he could've be worried about those odd counters early on. He did land a decent amount though, probably why our cards differ in spots.

I'll probably watch it again. I watched it with the sound off, BTW. As funny as I find the Japanese commentators, I can't listen to them while watching a fight like this.

Sorry for the late reply, kinda lost track and forgot about it.

I initially felt I was in the minority on this fight having Poon winning 115-114, but going on TC, WBVA, and speaking with you and DK, it seems that people's scores for the fight have varied. I thought it was a pretty close fight, I gave a 10-10 round, which is a rarity for me. I could see it either way, TBH.

Here are my thought thats I sent DK shortly after I scored it;

I thought Lee did some really good things that gave Poon problems. He was always moving, forcing Poon to resetr and while he was alway gravitating towards the ropes or corners, he never stayed there for long. He also tied up Poon whenever he tried to get on the inside. I also agree that in several rounds he was waiting just to counter Poon which allowed Poon to get off and when they exchanged, Poon's shots were better. When he used his stick and flurried, he did much better.

I'd never see Lee prior to the Poon fight, have you? He reminds me a bit like Masamori Tokuyama and not just because they are ethnic Koreans from Japan.

I got this inkling because I felt whenever Maidana clearly won rounds it was when he just came barreling forward and pushing Kotelnik back and staying close to him.

That's a good point you bring up though, guys like Kotelnik needs their feet set to throw, and that fighters with quick feet and who can move and change distance bother them.

Thanks for the input.

Hey man, just wanted to ask you a couple of ?s.

Have you scored Poonsawat-Lee yet?

And

Do you think Ortiz might try and back up Kotelnik? I think most are expecting Ortiz to fight in a manner similar to the Campbell fight, but seeing as Ortiz is so physically big and strong for the weight, I wouldn't be surprised to see it. Especially since Kotelnik looks uncomfortable being backed up and on the inside.

Exactly, except throw the hook with more authority than Pavlik does, if there's no power in the hook Haye won't be afraid to spin off that way if he can. But if the hook comes with power then he's basically just evading one shot that can hurt him that will lead him to another shot that can hurt him. Pavlik just taps the hook when he throws it like that.

No I haven't. I don't really watch amateur fights anymore, the Olympics was basically the last straw. It doesn't have much bearing on the pros, it's almost like 2 different sports now. And I find it really hard to watch, most of the guys are basically hit and runners. Tap, tap, tap and move, no power at all. Which is why Darren Sutherland and Bastie Samir caught my eye in the Olympics, those guys had pro styles back then.