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Even that I am curious about. In johnthan eigs book Ali would sometimes be banging 5-6 escorts a night and during camp. He was an animal in that regard...

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so Walcott did get better. All you did was explain how he got better in his late 30s. He got himself in good shape, he practiced his craft.

38 was old back then because fighters fought very frequently and started young. Harry Greb was 32 and had 300 fights.

walcott didn’t...

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this is the only reason 190 lb fighters don’t beat HWs anymore.

these guys used to use their speed to beat bigger men cause they had balls.

now they gotta bulk up cause they don’t believe in themselves....

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Yeah and thats because of Wilders lack of skill. He was much lighter and couldn’t use his speed / agility and stamina advantage because he’s stiff and unbalanced due to his terrible way of training, bad fundamentals and general low IQ in the way that he fights. Really simple way of fighting. Theres...

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“Words mean nothing to you”

you clearly didn’t read what I said. You are at war in your own head because you can’t understand anyone. CIA has a lot of simple tried and true methods to find things out about people. Always remember, when talking to someone you are at the mercy of...

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Indeed you need to be grateful I am enlightening you so you may enjoy the sport of boxing more, knowing how great these old fighters were compared to the mediocre subject matter today. It used be like the colosseum in rome. Unlike Wilder Theres a reason they weren’t dressing up in suits of armor...

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What age were they? Some of these guys started as teenagers. Jones was fully grown....

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He’s not gonna know who Chaplin is thats the problem....

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there isn’t and there should be. But ya. Pretty sure Ive seen Canelo touch 180 while fighting at 160....

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nope check the weights on fight night. Pac was in the 140s before he moved up. You are talking about the weigh ins.

i saw him clock 144 on fight night and thats when I thought he could dust hatton. Few years later he moves up and does just that.

he weighed in at 144 vs Marg...

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I KNOW joe frazier is not the same size as George regardless of weight. But that is my point to make not yours.

you claim 220 lbs is minimum needed to compete against heavier men. And I am telling you it doesn’t matter it all depends on the persons body type.

Foreman was...

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The problem with bouts like this one is the rules have changed so much. In langfords day you can grapple, hold and hit etc. you can’t even picture how it would go down or factor in eachothers strengths because it was a different game. If langford cab’t grapple he might take a huge defensive hit...

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This is a really good point. We literally stopped seeing 190 lbs heavyweights as soon as they made it a different division. This is the most obvious reason. Because lets be real, 250 lb heavyweights have ALWAYS existed. The 185-190 lbders left as soon as it wasn’t their weight class

IMO...

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Perfect examples.

they do understand this, but refuse to. Sometimes Ivich accidentally understands things but then goes on to keep arguing.

I said George and Frazier were nearly the same weight which by his account makes them the same size.

then he goes and says...

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It simply means Bruno is a big man, regardless of height /weight And he is....

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Yet I have listed billions of reasons.
yeah the loud voice was a stretch and not my main point but I have made dozens of others. You haven’t made any. You tried to with the Roy Jones idea, but even that doesn’t work he wasn’t even 200 lbs....

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Pacquiao weighed 148 lbs when he beat Margarito up BAD.

he weighed 145 vs Erik Morales...

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Yes large chested people with big Rib cages generally have louder voices...

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part of the first Marciano vs Charles fight are on youtube

no I haven’t seen them all. But every one thats been listed as Marciano struggling is a steamroll.

for example Cockell. Marciano takes one good shot from him then proceeds to beat him unconscious making me...

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??????? This is literally my argument. What a foolish thing to say. YOU dispute my claims on a mans actual size then go on to say Frazier is just blown up.

THEY ALL ARE BLOWN UP

wilder has gone from 212 -230 in one year, and he looks blown up even at 212.

is Fury...