I'm convinced Lennox Lewis has the most impressive resum'e in boxing history. The names in bold, below, were all former or future Heavyweight champions that Lennox beat. If you know a boxer who can go tit for tat with Lennox's resum'e please show me. But I doubt anyone has beaten 11 champions before...

1. Mike Tyson
2. Evander Holyfield
3. Vitali Klitschko
4. Riddick Bowe (watch the olympic match, LL dominated)
5. Tony Tucker
6. Tommy Morrison
7. Hassim Rahman
8. Shannon Briggs
9. Ray Mercer
10. Oliver Mcall
11. Frank Bruno

Honerable mention, Non-title holder wins:

Donavan Ruddock
David Tua
Michael Grant

I reckon Charles and probably Greb have the best win resumes of all time, Robinson's ain't too shabby either. Archie Moore's is up there too. Moore's overrall opposition is arguably the best of all time; I rate him #1 in that aspect, the second place going to Langford.

1. Mike Tyson
2. Evander Holyfield
3. Vitali Klitschko
4. Riddick Bowe (watch the olympic match, LL dominated)
5. Tony Tucker
6. Tommy Morrison
7. Hassim Rahman
8. Shannon Briggs
9. Ray Mercer
10. Oliver Mcall
11. Frank Bruno

Angott
Servo
Zivic
LaMotta
Armstrong
Bell
Gavilan
Olsen
Turpin
Graziano
Fullmer
Basilio

Forget about champions, there's a lot of HOF fighters there. That's Walker Smith Jr's, just off the top of my head.

Please, Tyson and Holyfield were shot when Lennox beat them. The rest of them are second (and even third) tier fighters.

Most of those guys just owned a portion of the title. Tyson and Holyfield were past their primes, and Lewis didn't even beat Holy convincingly. Lewis's resume is okay for a contemporary fighter but that's it. Even among heavyweights that is not an awe inspiring resume. It's a good one, a solid one, but not even close to the best ever.

De La Hoya has a great resume.

I'm convinced Lennox Lewis has the most impressive resum'e in boxing history. The names in bold, below, were all former or future Heavyweight champions that Lennox beat. If you know a boxer who can go tit for tat with Lennox's resum'e please show me. But I doubt anyone has beaten 11 champions before...

1. Mike Tyson
2. Evander Holyfield
3. Vitali Klitschko
4. Riddick Bowe (watch the olympic match, LL dominated)
5. Tony Tucker
6. Tommy Morrison
7. Hassim Rahman
8. Shannon Briggs
9. Ray Mercer
10. Oliver Mcall
11. Frank Bruno

Honerable mention, Non-title holder wins:

Donavan Ruddock
David Tua
Michael Grant

Lewis has a good resume; but it's not the best by any stretch of the imagination. Tyson and Holyfield were not anywhere near their primes for one; and as Kid Achilles stated, Lewis didn't even beat Evander that convincingly in the rematch. Also, McCall was an upper tier journeyman and lost via mental breakdoan/possible crack high in the rematch, Briggs had no credit coming into the Lewis fight and actually the only reason he has any respect today as a heavyweight was due to his gutsy performance against Lewis. Bowe was an amateur win and should not be included in his professional resume....unless you want to mention that he had lost to Tyrell Biggs four years previously. Rahman, like Briggs, built his entire career off of one punch over a fat Lewis in South Africa, a fight Lewis should have never lost in the first place; Rahman has won no other impressive fight in his career....oh, except Sanders. Tucker was past his best; but a lower tier contender at least. Mercer, Morrison, Tua, Ruddock, and Klitschko I will give you, though Lewis did not look impressive against Vitali, it was impressive that an ill-prepared Lennox could begin to rally (slightly) before the fight was stopped on that nasty gash.

Now, as to whose record or resume could compare to Lewis's....here's just one example:


1. Sonny Liston..........twice
2. Floyd Patterson......twice
3. Cleveland Williams
4. Zora Folley

-------------------All past their primes; but still dangerous.

5. Jerry Quarry..........twice
6. Oscar Bonavena
7. Jimmy Ellis
8. Buster Mathis
9. Mac Foster
10. Joe Bugner...........twice
11. Ken Norton...........thrice
12. Joe Frazier...........thrice
13. George Foreman
14. Ron Lyle
15. Earnie Shavers


Now, I admittedly put some names on this resume I normally wouldn't; but since you included Oliver McCall, Hasim Rahman, and a really shot Mike Tyson....I felt obliged to list their comparative equals.


..oh, and I suppose it's obvious whoes resume I used. ;)

Ali has the best Heavyweight resume in history in my oppinion and maybe the best ever. Lewis's best two opponents were Tyson and Holyfield and they were long past their best when he beat them. Other than that Lewis's oppenents were pretty average and he was twice knocked out cold by c list fighters.

Ali has the best Heavyweight resume in history in my oppinion and maybe the best ever.

Ali possibly has the best heavyweight resume of all-time, but there's no way on earth that he'd have the p4p best of all-time, and here's only one example of a much better p4p resume than that of Ali's...

Jimmy McLarnin fought;

Barney Ross x3, Tony Canzoneri, Lou Ambers, Benny Leonard, Fidel LaBarba x3, Bud Taylor x2, Pancho Villa, Young Corbett II, Billy Petrolle x3, Sammy Mandell x2, Lou Brouillard, and Kid Kaplan are all a part of the HOF...That total of HOF'ers fought nearly doubles that of Ali's total.

Other top notch fighters (champions and/or contenders) McLarnin beat/fought includes Memphis Pal Moore, Sgt. Sammy Baker, Al Singer, Young Jack Thompson, Sammy Fuller, Ruby Goldstein, Sid Terris, Joe Glick, Ray Miller, etc., etc.

i.e. McLarnin's resume blows Ali's out of the water!

Ali possibly has the best heavyweight resume of all-time, but there's no way on earth that he'd have the p4p best of all-time, and here's only one example of a much better p4p resume than that of Ali's...

Jimmy McLarnin fought;

Barney Ross x3, Tony Canzoneri, Lou Ambers, Benny Leonard, Fidel LaBarba x3, Bud Taylor x2, Pancho Villa, Young Corbett II, Billy Petrolle x3, Sammy Mandell x2, Lou Brouillard, and Kid Kaplan are all a part of the HOF...That total of HOF'ers fought nearly doubles that of Ali's total.

Other top notch fighters (champions and/or contenders) McLarnin beat/fought includes Memphis Pal Moore, Sgt. Sammy Baker, Al Singer, Young Jack Thompson, Sammy Fuller, Ruby Goldstein, Sid Terris, Joe Glick, Ray Miller, etc., etc.

i.e. McLarnin's resume blows Ali's out of the water!


Which is why I said Heavyweight resume. If I just said resume I knew you would pounce on me with a mighty list of lower weight fighters with outstanding resume's. But since you decided to pounce anyway I would probably have been better off not posting at all. :puppy_dog
I only said best ever to try to put a bit of personal taste in. Oppinions can be wrong my friend. try not to hate me for it.

Yogi wasn't mad, he just saw an opportunity to give a lesser known great some badly deserved credit and recognition and he went with it.

I included Oliver Mccall and Rahman because they were both champions. No one in history(HWD) has beaten 11 champions and no one ever will because today's fighters have less bouts and are afraid of unification matches.

Moore's overrall opposition is arguably the best of all time

I give him credit for taking the tough fights.. it's cute. but Lennox has a win over every opponent he ever faced.



Tyson and Holyfield were past their primes
Holyfield was Mr Invincible in 1999, and there is only a 3 year age difference between him and Lewis.

Tyson was, and I believe still is younger than Lennox

Bowe was an amateur win and should not be included in his professional resume

Its meaningful for 3 reasons

1. Both guys went on to dominate the same division in the same era, and this was the only match that ever occured between the two.

2. Lennox beat Bowe pretty freaking convinvingly. The punishment penetrated through the head gear.

3. Bowe flushed his Heavyweight belt down the toilet to avoid Lewis in the mid 90's.... That makes the amateur match an pwnage of epic proportions.

Ali has the best Heavyweight resume in history in my oppinion and maybe the best ever

Ali's resum'e is comparable to Lennox, but the difference is Lennox has a win over every man he ever faced(HWD).

Ali has the best Heavyweight resume...just look at his recored prior to exile, then look at it after...the Man was able to beat great fighters after a few years of rusting, that says something.

And can someone tell me how many times Ali has been KTFO?

and don't bring up the Parkinson Ali that fought Larry Holmes because he was still standing.

I included Oliver Mccall and Rahman because they were both champions. No one in history(HWD) has beaten 11 champions and no one ever will because today's fighters have less bouts and are afraid of unification matches.

considering there are 50 Heavyweight belts out there,
yeah, I see your point.:rolleyes:


I give him credit for taking the tough fights.. it's cute. but Lennox has a win over every opponent he ever faced.
Maricano has a victory over every opponent, didn't lose, but I am not going to say his resume is better than Ali's.



Holyfield was Mr Invincible in 1999, and there is only a 3 year age difference between him and Lewis.

Wow, that's stretching it...Holy beat a rusted, past his best Tyson...lost to Bowe twice, including being knocked out, had heart problems, lost to Moorer, etc.

Tyson was, and I believe still is younger than Lennox

Boxing age is different than regular age, and even then, somebody for example like Tyson had physically matured faster, plus the way of life makes you age faster. The Tyson that fought Lewis wasn't even the Tyson that fought Holyfield...at least the one that fought Holyfield still had some speed left, could last more than 3 rounds, showed up in decent shape (even though it wasn't "Boxing Shape"), etc.

Its meaningful for 3 reasons

1. Both guys went on to dominate the same division in the same era, and this was the only match that ever occured between the two.

2. Lennox beat Bowe pretty freaking convinvingly. The punishment penetrated through the head gear.

3. Bowe flushed his Heavyweight belt down the toilet to avoid Lewis in the mid 90's.... That makes the amateur match an pwnage of epic proportions.



Ali's resum'e is comparable to Lennox, but the difference is Lennox has a win over every man he ever faced(HWD).

Yeah, agree, it was a ***** move by Bowe to not face Lewis...it boosts Lewis's legacy because he won without even stepping into the ring.

Yogi wasn't mad, he just saw an opportunity to give a lesser known great some badly deserved credit and recognition and he went with it.

i know but I'm a sensitive guy you see and I often lock myself away for weeks if someone makes a derogatory remark about my new hair cut or choice of shoes.

Well, you did say resume. Wich means that the fighters they lost to should also count. Now this thread is taking a diffirent turn.

Maricano has a victory over every opponent, didn't lose, but I am not going to say his resume is better than Ali's.


Thats because Rocky had only 6 title fights.

Lennox had 14 AND he beat everyone he ever faced.


Well, you did say resume. Wich means that the fighters they lost to should also count. Now this thread is taking a diffirent turn.

My fault for not making myself clear. By resu'me I mean guys you have a W over. Moore losing to Marciano and Ali does not impress me, anyone could have done that.

Lewis also lost twice, by knockout, to guys who were B- contenders. McCall had a lot of potential, great chin and power, but he was not a great fighter as he was.

I included Oliver Mccall and Rahman because they were both champions. No one in history(HWD) has beaten 11 champions and no one ever will because today's fighters have less bouts and are afraid of unification matches.



I give him credit for taking the tough fights.. it's cute. but Lennox has a win over every opponent he ever faced.

Obvious; but I'll take it anyway. Rahman and McCall were "champions" because they knocked out Lewis; and wouldn't have been in any other fashion, IMO. And McCall wasn't even a "champion", he was a belt-holder. Moorer was the World Champion when McCall stopped Lewis for the WBC belt.




Holyfield was Mr Invincible in 1999, and there is only a 3 year age difference between him and Lewis.

Tyson was, and I believe still is younger than Lennox

1. Holyfield had a great career resurgence over a post-prison Tyson, who was no where near the original and a great come-forward/knock him out effort over the glass chinned Moorer; but that does not mean he was invincible by any stretch of the imagination.

2. I don't care about physical age because it is a moot point. Short aggressive fighter, in this case Tyson, peak very early and go down hill very early. By the Time Mike got out of prison he was past his best, to suggest he was as good as Lewis or in the same place in his career as Lewis was when they finally did meet is absolute ludicrousy.



Its meaningful for 3 reasons

1. Both guys went on to dominate the same division in the same era, and this was the only match that ever occured between the two.

2. Lennox beat Bowe pretty freaking convinvingly. The punishment penetrated through the head gear.

3. Bowe flushed his Heavyweight belt down the toilet to avoid Lewis in the mid 90's.... That makes the amateur match an pwnage of epic proportions.

I'll be the first to admit that it sucks that Bowe ducked Lewis and the first to proclaim the Bowe would have probably been flattened by Lewis had they met. However, this fight still means diddly and is merely an attemp to place the two in the same ring in some far stretch. The fact is they never met, Bowe ducked him, and Lewis had a far more impressive career even without them meeting....be satisfed with it; we never got Ali-Foreman II either.

...plus the use of the word(?) "pwange" should in and of itself make this entire argument null and void.



Ali's resum'e is comparable to Lennox, but the difference is Lennox has a win over every man he ever faced(HWD).

No, the difference is Ali faced far superior competition and never got stopped by anyone, much less a couple of journeymen. The only two men Ali didn't beat were Holmes and Berbick, whom he fought after he'd contracted Parkinson's syndone, to say nothing of "el dopa" before the Holmes fight.

There IS no comparison.

Obvious; but I'll take it anyway. Rahman and McCall were "champions" because they knocked out Lewis; and wouldn't have been in any other fashion, IMO. And McCall wasn't even a "champion", he was a belt-holder. Moorer was the World Champion when McCall stopped Lewis for the WBC belt.






1. Holyfield had a great career resurgence over a post-prison Tyson, who was no where near the original and a great come-forward/knock him out effort over the glass chinned Moorer; but that does not mean he was invincible by any stretch of the imagination.

2. I don't care about physical age because it is a moot point. Short aggressive fighter, in this case Tyson, peak very early and go down hill very early. By the Time Mike got out of prison he was past his best, to suggest he was as good as Lewis or in the same place in his career as Lewis was when they finally did meet is absolute ludicrousy.





I'll be the first to admit that it sucks that Bowe ducked Lewis and the first to proclaim the Bowe would have probably been flattened by Lewis had they met. However, this fight still means diddly and is merely an attemp to place the two in the same ring in some far stretch. The fact is they never met, Bowe ducked him, and Lewis had a far more impressive career even without them meeting....be satisfed with it; we never got Ali-Foreman II either.

...plus the use of the word(?) "pwange" should in and of itself make this entire argument null and void.





No, the difference is Ali faced far superior competition and never got stopped by anyone, much less a couple of journeymen. The only two men Ali didn't beat were Holmes and Berbick, whom he fought after he'd contracted Parkinson's syndone, to say nothing of "el dopa" before the Holmes fight.

There IS no comparison.

Agreed K-DOGG. agreed.

Yogi wasn't mad, he just saw an opportunity to give a lesser known great some badly deserved credit and recognition and he went with it.

I don't think Yogi can be mad right now, as I'm still on a bit of a high over the recent news of George Godfrey's induction into the Hall of Fame.

And I chose McLarnin because his resume is simply incredible...especially considering the limited number of fights he had, as McLarnin may just have the best resume of all-time on a quality opposition per fights ratio.

I included Oliver Mccall and Rahman because they were both champions. No one in history(HWD) has beaten 11 champions and no one ever will because today's fighters have less bouts and are afraid of unification matches.



I give him credit for taking the tough fights.. it's cute. but Lennox has a win over every opponent he ever faced.




Holyfield was Mr Invincible in 1999, and there is only a 3 year age difference between him and Lewis.

Tyson was, and I believe still is younger than Lennox



Its meaningful for 3 reasons

1. Both guys went on to dominate the same division in the same era, and this was the only match that ever occured between the two.

2. Lennox beat Bowe pretty freaking convinvingly. The punishment penetrated through the head gear.

3. Bowe flushed his Heavyweight belt down the toilet to avoid Lewis in the mid 90's.... That makes the amateur match an pwnage of epic proportions.



Ali's resum'e is comparable to Lennox, but the difference is Lennox has a win over every man he ever faced(HWD).

I agree with much of what you say. Lewis sometimes doesn't get the credit that i think he deserves. However, i don't agree with your theory regarding the age of Lewis, Tyson, and Holyfield. Regardless of Tyson being younger than Lewis it was still apparent that Tyson was shot.
Lewis took care of himself and seemed to get better with age while it is obvious what direction Tyson took.
Also, i sometimes don't understand the theories behind the Lewis/Holyfield fights. Lewis beat Holyfield in the first fight quite clearly IMO, and although the second fight seemed IMO to be more of a draw than the first, Lewis still got the win. At that time Holyfield was still a very capable fighter.

Riddick Bowe simply avoided Lewis like the plague!!! However, although Lewis's win over Bowe in the amateurs shouldn't really be included in the initial resume posted, it seemed to leave enough of an impression on Bowe to convince him the he should avoid Lewis in the professional ring, even if it meant throwing his title in a dustbin!