I'm just curious, because it seems as if Filipinos in the US, give Filipinos from the PI, a hard time...and seems like they renounce them, every chance they get. You've heard all of the FOB talk...and all of that other stuff...


I don't know, I never understood it...I view my countrymen for the most part as my brothers/sisters...and I don't know another race that has such a strong afinity with one another.

For example, I've gotten hooked up at places where there was a Filipino worker, on the simple fact that I too, have Filipino blood in me...and at a lot of the jobs I've had...folks would be like..


' Are you Filipino...? '


And I'd be like...yeah...


' Do we get a discount...? '


And I love that we have such a strong connection like that. I don't see another race like it, as far as that goes...


But I'm just not understanding the animosity between mostly young men, because most of the gang violence involving Filipino's that I've seen, has been Pinoy's from the US, against Pinoy's who are from The PI who came here...



How do you feel about this...?

they are still Filipinos, though they enjoy the place they live in, or are they.

Interesting topic. Well, it is in fact true that we are one of the few races that has strong afinity with one another. Only we, Filipinos, well atleast the true Filipinos, have this trait. And for the gang violence thing.. being a young Filipino myself, I came here like 6 years ago.. I was shocked about what I found out with the Filipinos that was born here in the US. When I was young, I always thought every Filipinos are disciplined and taught how to respect other people by their parents. But not until I moved here. They became more like the "spoiled brat americans". I woulndt blame them though because they live in such environment. I have nothing against Americans or America.. In fact, I love the country and I'm glad I moved here cause there's more money here. But the sad truth is that Filipinos that was/will born here will be more like an American spoiled brat

I'm just curious, because it seems as if Filipinos in the US, give Filipinos from the PI, a hard time...and seems like they renounce them, every chance they get. You've heard all of the FOB talk...and all of that other stuff...


I don't know, I never understood it...I view my countrymen for the most part as my brothers/sisters...and I don't know another race that has such a strong afinity with one another.

For example, I've gotten hooked up at places where there was a Filipino worker, on the simple fact that I too, have Filipino blood in me...and at a lot of the jobs I've had...folks would be like..


' Are you Filipino...? '


And I'd be like...yeah...


' Do we get a discount...? '


And I love that we have such a strong connection like that. I don't see another race like it, as far as that goes...


But I'm just not understanding the animosity between mostly young men, because most of the gang violence involving Filipino's that I've seen, has been Pinoy's from the US, against Pinoy's who are from The PI who came here...



How do you feel about this...?


who's winning the gang war, the island born pinoy or the fil/ams?

I'm just curious, because it seems as if Filipinos in the US, give Filipinos from the PI, a hard time...and seems like they renounce them, every chance they get. You've heard all of the FOB talk...and all of that other stuff...


I don't know, I never understood it...I view my countrymen for the most part as my brothers/sisters...and I don't know another race that has such a strong afinity with one another.

For example, I've gotten hooked up at places where there was a Filipino worker, on the simple fact that I too, have Filipino blood in me...and at a lot of the jobs I've had...folks would be like..


' Are you Filipino...? '


And I'd be like...yeah...


' Do we get a discount...? '


And I love that we have such a strong connection like that. I don't see another race like it, as far as that goes...


But I'm just not understanding the animosity between mostly young men, because most of the gang violence involving Filipino's that I've seen, has been Pinoy's from the US, against Pinoy's who are from The PI who came here...



How do you feel about this...?I think mexicanos and chicanos hate each other's guts more.

they're pinoy i dont see any difference i cant speak for people in the states

I don't think it's still happening as much as before... Im from northern cali and we don't have that issue here, discrimination here is not as bad compare to other places. Its all about "LOVE" here in northern cali.

kadalasan yung mga lumaki sa pinas na biglang nag-abroad ang minsan mayayabang kesa lumaki sa states o sa kahit ano pa bang bansa.

pero marami pa rin naman na nagiging ok. like some people here sa BS :)

for me true pinoys can speak tagalog or dialect from their region(or atleast can understand some words coz i believe language is the biggest asset of our culture. and 66 dialects are still spoken here today) anyway my view according to a documentary (GMA 7 long time ago)about pinoys in US (new york).. some dumbass pinoys created a gang in ny called TBS which are jologs group here in manila.(take note they been living there for only 1 1/2 yr..) and they live the gangsta lifestyle (sex,drug,alcohol etc.) while their parents are working hard there.. whatta disgrace... no wonder other gangs hate them..these guys are bunch of tryinghards..

for me true pinoys can speak tagalog or dialect from their region(or atleast can understand some words coz i believe language is the biggest asset of our culture. and 66 dialects are still spoken here today) anyway my view according to a documentary (GMA 7 long time ago)about pinoys in US (new york).. some dumbass pinoys created a gang in ny called TBS which are jologs group here in manila.(take note they been living there for only 1 1/2 yr..) and they live the gangsta lifestyle (sex,drug,alcohol etc.) while their parents are working hard there.. whatta disgrace... no wonder other gangs hate them..these guys are bunch of tryinghards..
eh narinig mo na ung tngkol sa batang city jail gang sa states na puro koreano LOL!!!!!!!!!

eh narinig mo na ung tngkol sa batang city jail gang sa states na puro koreano LOL!!!!!!!!!

LOL!! totoo ba un.....meron bang ganun..

nakwento lang sa akin LOL!!! meron pang asian boys na gang. nahuli lhat ng gang member s sabay sabay sa iisang lugar LOL!!!!!!!!!

I just can't understand US born Pinoys' need to disassociate themselves from Island born Filipinos...its almost as if they're embarassed by their own countrymen...


BTW

Would anyone care to translate the last few replys to the thread..? English speaking only here...yeah...I know...:ugh:

I try to smile at all Pinoys I meet here in the East Coast. We aren't as numerous as Pinoys in California. I'm the smiley Filipino that Americans tend to stereotype :D Everyone I work with think all Pinoys are friendly!

BWAHAHA! Wait til they meet my relatives from Batangas! Kahit masaya sila, parang galit parin ang tunog! :p

I just can't understand US born Pinoys' need to disassociate themselves from Island born Filipinos...its almost as if they're embarassed by their own countrymen...


BTW

Would anyone care to translate the last few replys to the thread..? English speaking only here...yeah...I know...:ugh:
are you pinoy?

akala mo laging may away noh? ganun anmn ang pinoy e. nagmumurahan parang endearment na yun.

I just can't understand US born Pinoys' need to disassociate themselves from Island born Filipinos...its almost as if they're embarassed by their own countrymen...



This is true......tho some are cool. But some deny their roots. I specially hate those asshos.

I try to smile at all Pinoys I meet here in the East Coast. We aren't as numerous as Pinoys in California. I'm the smiley Filipino that Americans tend to stereotype :D Everyone I work with think all Pinoys are friendly!




From my own experience.....U.S. born pinoys in the east coast are well educated than here where I am (westside). They try to finish college there while they try to be gangstas here....LOL. That's just my own experience...not all are like that. (I hope) :cop:

kadalasan yung mga lumaki sa pinas na biglang nag-abroad ang minsan mayayabang kesa lumaki sa states o sa kahit ano pa bang bansa.

pero marami pa rin naman na nagiging ok. like some people here sa BS :)

true ka jan ace.

may kakilala ako si goriong tuka, napunta lang ng amerika naging gregory peck na ang pangalan.

saka si jaimeng sastre, naging james taylor naman.

true ka jan ace.

may kakilala ako si goriong tuka, napunta lang ng amerika naging gregory peck na ang pangalan.

saka si jaimeng sastre, naging james taylor naman.
LOLAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

true ka jan ace.

may kakilala ako si goriong tuka, napunta lang ng amerika naging gregory peck na ang pangalan.

saka si jaimeng sastre, naging james taylor naman.
eh bakit yung kwento ni allan pineda ng BEP.diba minata siya ng mga pinoy na laking state dahil bagong salta sya.

ei jan ka pala flip.

This is true......tho some are cool. But some deny their roots. I specially hate those asshos.

they are not like me! I was born in the US but I didnt deny my roots! even once :D

they are not like me! I was born in the US but I didnt deny my roots! even once :D

I'm denying you!! :ugh:


:D

eh bakit yung kwento ni allan pineda ng BEP.diba minata siya ng mga pinoy na laking state dahil bagong salta sya.
di ba katutubo si apl de ap?

ita nga ba?

ita nga ba?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

I'm denying you!! :ugh:


:D


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! :lol1:

I know for a fact that some filipinos in my area think they are better and often poke fun at filipinos living in there homeland. I dont know though, this may be from American born Filipinos and I could be wrong.

I know for a fact that some filipinos in my area think they are better and often poke fun at filipinos living in there homeland. I dont know though, this may be from American born Filipinos and I could be wrong.
where ya live at? the pinoy pop will disappear in your area.:D where ya been?

where ya live at? the pinoy pop will disappear in your area.:D where ya been?


Live in Portland. Hell yah, Pinoy pop superstar ! watch that a few times, some them dudes can really sing.

Been busy, not too much on the computer these days. Try to get on at least couple times during the weeknights though.

I know for a fact that some filipinos in my area think they are better and often poke fun at filipinos living in there homeland. I dont know though, this may be from American born Filipinos and I could be wrong.


The feeling is mutual.............:D

There are some cool U.S. born pinoys.......some suck. :D

Well, I guess more often than not, its a Filipino relocating to the states, but what I want to know is, how are American born Pinoys viewed in The Phillipines...?


Are they looked at as snobby, and spoiled...? Do you poke fun at them, the same way we do, when a person is new to the US and comes here to live...?




Please, English only ! I don't understand Tagalog, and YES, I am a Pinoy...but a 3rd generation American, so we mostly speak English. But I'd like to hear what you guys have to say.

I couldn't read a lot of the posts in Tagalog earlier in the thread.

may yayabang pa ba sakin? :D

stateside pinoy cannot act-up against Pinoy FOBs...coz the latter make more greenbux than they r...and drive fancier cars too...hehehe

I hope they view/treat us (Filipino's abroad) the same way I view them...with dignity and respect.

I have met too many people that arent too proud of being Filipino though like mixed Filipino's usually like to claim their other half, I used to want to :boxing: their asses but I just brush it off now.

interesting topic.

I was born in US and am half Italian, but I still throw it up for PI.

Well, I guess more often than not, its a Filipino relocating to the states, but what I want to know is, how are American born Pinoys viewed in The Phillipines...?


Are they looked at as snobby, and spoiled...? Do you poke fun at them, the same way we do, when a person is new to the US and comes here to live...?




Please, English only ! I don't understand Tagalog, and YES, I am a Pinoy...but a 3rd generation American, so we mostly speak English. But I'd like to hear what you guys have to say.

I couldn't read a lot of the posts in Tagalog earlier in the thread.


sweet posts. Anyone gonna answer him?

i was talking to a friend of mine regarding thise. i know peeeps that are born in the states think they hard and all that **** with all their ganbanging **** from there. but nothing beats living in a neighborhood where you dont have to have a gang to know that you will die any minute.

just an example would be our boxers. brian villoria and donaire are prime examples of pinoys growing up in the states. manny pac boom boom etc are prime example of boxers growing up in the PI. if you want a more concrete example there is luisito espinosa, he grew up in tondo and check out how hard he fights.

Well, I guess more often than not, its a Filipino relocating to the states, but what I want to know is, how are American born Pinoys viewed in The Phillipines...?


Are they looked at as snobby, and spoiled...? Do you poke fun at them, the same way we do, when a person is new to the US and comes here to live...?




Please, English only ! I don't understand Tagalog, and YES, I am a Pinoy...but a 3rd generation American, so we mostly speak English. But I'd like to hear what you guys have to say.

I couldn't read a lot of the posts in Tagalog earlier in the thread.

I also have Pinoy cousins who were born in the States. All I can say is that they are mostly brats who are used to the good life. They've never experienced poverty that's why they're not that hardened compared to the Pinoys of the same age.

I also have Pinoy cousins who were born in the States. All I can say is that they are mostly brats who are used to the good life. They've never experienced poverty that's why they're not that hardened compared to the Pinoys of the same age.
I am one of those Pinoys that was born in the states but I am no brat. My mom and dad (dad w/2jobs) worked very hard to provide us with a good life. It is true, we used to dispise those other pinoys coming from the PI. They looked down on us as not real pinoys. We cant speak the language and they had cars in high school while we catch the bus. Though we may not know how to speak or understand the language our family made sure we knew our culture. I for one know how to kill a pig and goat. As we grew older we put our difference aside and hanged out with each other. I am from the same neighborhood were Brian Viloria lives (Waipahu, HI). I envy my fellow pinoys that are in the Phillippines, look at the gorgeous, sexy women you have there.

why envy the pinoys here in RP? you also have a lot of gorgeous women over there ;)

why envy the pinoys here in RP? you also have a lot of gorgeous women over there ;)
Instead of being with 26 women in my lifetime I would have over a 100 if I was born in the Phillippines. Hawaii women are fine but they don't compare to the women in the Phillippines.

Instead of being with 26 women in my lifetime I would have over a 100 if I was born in the Phillippines. Hawaii women are fine but they don't compare to the women in the Phillippines.

got that right!

Good posts fellas.


I guess its fair to say that regardless of which side you're coming from, whether it be a US born Pinoy, relocating to The PI, or if vise versa, there is always that small indifference in between us.


I agree with the fact that most US born Pinoy's have probably had it much easier, from a financial standpoint, simply being because of the amount of opportunities that we have here in The US compared to those in The PI.


But besides the differences in everyday culture, as people, I feel like we are one in the same, and more likely than not, share a lot of the same values and traditions that you do in The Phillipines. The cavaleir attitudes that you might sense from your US born countrymen, may just be from their lack of understanding of your culture, and vise versa.

As for the women, to each his own, but we have definitely got the best Pinays here in The States, more specifically California ! You all would love it !


Heres an example...


http://blog.vbios.com/res/image/publication/1130039664_2_t.jpg

may yayabang pa ba sakin? :D
ganda kasi ng syota mo o...tingnan mo syet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hahahahahahahahaha!

I feel like there is no gang violence between us filipino americans and filipinos. prolly where you live but not here in seattle. hey, we'll prolly clown on them for being boater, but who doesnt do that to their own race. its just funny in way, but i have lots of friends who just came from the p.i and i get along with them fine.

Filipinas r def hotter here in the us..def thicker but I still love them over there...I can't wait to go back..

Filipinas r def hotter here in the us..def thicker but I still love them over there...I can't wait to go back..

A lot of them are fatter too! lol

The thing is most pinays that are considered hot in the US looks like my yaya or maid. :D:

Pinoy traits actually works in Boxingscene.. Nagbibigayan, Nagtutulungan at marami pang iba... :fing02::fing02::fing02:

I especially hate those *******s who lie about their race.

"Yes, I'm Filipino. But I'm mixed with blah blah blah."

A lot of them are fatter too! lol

The thing is most pinays that are considered hot in the US looks like my yaya or maid. :D:

Got pics of your yaya? I banged my friends yaya once. lol

pinays back home sh1t on the pinays over here....no contest

I especially hate those *******s who lie about their race.

"Yes, I'm Filipino. But I'm mixed with blah blah blah."


Man you're missing a lot. I had a lot of Chinese booties when I tell them I have Chinese blood in me too. It's a good pick up line. I dated an espanyola (from Spain herself visiting here) and told her I have some Spanish blood. You should always use your resources when it needed. Too bad I haven't met a Malaysian chick. I would have used my Malay line on her. :D

A lot of them are fatter too! lol

The thing is most pinays that are considered hot in the US looks like my yaya or maid. :D:

That is true. Pinaganda nang yaman ang mga babae dito. Kahit mukhang katulong maganda pa rin or gumaganda. Yun namang sa atin maraming maganda (at potential na maganda) ang hindi naaayusan, lumalabas na mas pangit sa mga taga-dito.

pinays back home sh1t on the pinays over here....no contest

I'll co-sign on that.

pinays back home sh1t on the pinays over here....no contest

sooooo true. tangna nung nagbakasyon ako uli sa pinas last yr after 7yrs at tumambay sa makati, pati mga waitress dun sa mga clubs/bars ilalampaso mga 'magaganda' kuno dito sa new york. i almost forgot kung gano kagaganda mga pinay sa pinas nung nasanay ako sa mediocre na ganda ng mga pinay dito sa US lol.

ang problema ko lang sa mga pinays dito eh ang yayabang ng iba at hindi namamansin ng mga pinoys. pag alam nilang natitipuhan sila ng mga ibang lahi dahil 'exotic' beauty nila (read: mukhang longkatuts) eh yumayabang! LOL

sooooo true. tangna nung nagbakasyon ako uli sa pinas last yr after 7yrs at tumambay sa makati, pati mga waitress dun sa mga clubs/bars ilalampaso mga 'magaganda' kuno dito sa new york. i almost forgot kung gano kagaganda mga pinay sa pinas nung nasanay ako sa mediocre na ganda ng mga pinay dito sa US lol.

ang problema ko lang sa mga pinays dito eh ang yayabang ng iba at hindi namamansin ng mga pinoys. pag alam nilang natitipuhan sila ng mga ibang lahi dahil 'exotic' beauty nila (read: mukhang longkatuts) eh yumayabang! LOL

Mas marami, mas maganda.

sooooo true. tangna nung nagbakasyon ako uli sa pinas last yr after 7yrs at tumambay sa makati, pati mga waitress dun sa mga clubs/bars ilalampaso mga 'magaganda' kuno dito sa new york. i almost forgot kung gano kagaganda mga pinay sa pinas nung nasanay ako sa mediocre na ganda ng mga pinay dito sa US lol.

ang problema ko lang sa mga pinays dito eh ang yayabang ng iba at hindi namamansin ng mga pinoys. pag alam nilang natitipuhan sila ng mga ibang lahi dahil 'exotic' beauty nila (read: mukhang longkatuts) eh yumayabang! LOL





AAAAAAAND, they know how to act right...they appreciate things/gestrures more....


but yes, kahit mga waitress maganda...damn...i wish it was august 09 already

Its all the same with all race..

I think mexicanos and chicanos hate each other's guts more.

No, We don't.:fingersx:

No, We don't.:fingersx:

The Mexican doesn't like you.

The Mexican doesn't like you.

That's because he's a fake Mexican. :D

No, We don't.:fingersx:

rat you are a Brit

rat you are a Brit

England > Mexico = Philippines :fing02:

Man you're missing a lot. I had a lot of Chinese booties when I tell them I have Chinese blood in me too. It's a good pick up line. I dated an espanyola (from Spain herself visiting here) and told her I have some Spanish blood. You should always use your resources when it needed. Too bad I haven't met a Malaysian chick. I would have used my Malay line on her. :D

manoy..2009 na, panahon na para magbago..isama mo narin si boss kadyo en da res op da gang...hahahaha

Since I've never been to the Phillippines. I'm going to say that Pinays in California are hotter than the ones in the Phillippines. :D

Since I've never been to the Phillippines. I'm going to say that Pinays in California are hotter than the ones in the Phillippines. :D

You dont get out much do you :lol1:

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5223/hot02nr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/hot02nr7.jpg/1/w600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img126/hot02nr7.jpg/1/)

You dont get out much do you :lol1:

Are you inviting me to the Philippines ? :fingersx:

Are you inviting me to the Philippines ? :fingersx:

you might jack off in the airport upon arrival :lol1:

you might jack off in the airport upon arrival :lol1:

If I'm lucky. I'll get to sit next to brown Pinay.:fingersx:

Well, I guess more often than not, its a Filipino relocating to the states, but what I want to know is, how are American born Pinoys viewed in The Phillipines...?

More often than not your typical Pinoy (Philippine born and raised Filipinos, not including the privileged socio economic upper crust who send their kids to schools like Brent or International School, and spend as much time abroad as they do here) tend to have an inferiority complex when it comes to overseas born and raised hyphenated "Filipinos." They think you're better educated and wealthier. At the same time, they think you're less mannered, materialistic, selfish and less spiritually attuned (meaning, you're not as good a Catholic - btw, this is something the priests preach here all the time). I hesitate to use the term "Pinoy" for anyone who wasn't born and raised here, just because it assumes a certain mindset, preferences and core values - not necessarily better ones, but definitely one you wouldn't be familiar with unless you spent the better part of your life here. It means being more group oriented and less individualistic; being at once deferrential but also distrustful of authority; and having preferences and tastes molded by often times subsistence level personal economies. I don't even consider our super wealthy to be Pinoys. Their tastes are too international and too downward looking with regards to their countrymen. They're more comfortable with escargot with a glass of chardonnay than they are a bucket of boiled snails and a bottle of San Mig. They send their daughters abroad to Spain to find husbands so that each succedding generation looks less and less Filipino.

Are they looked at as snobby, and spoiled...?

Yes. From my perspective, Pinoys and Fil-foreigners have fundamentally different world views. The Pinoy is essentially family and group oriented. Having an overseas cousin over for a month or two is great. Masaya talaga! (A great time!) How do you Fil-Ams feel about sharing or giving up your room to a Philippine cousin for a month or two? Once here, the Pinoy thinks nothing of sharing his/her room or anything else to make the visitor feel welcome and comfortable. The Fil-Am visitor, on the other hand, seems more interested in finding the privacy and space they're accustomed to. So yeah, they're seen as spoiled. A lot of it has to do with how overseas "filipinos" treat their elders. People here are obsessively obedient and respectful of our elders. (This isn't necessarily a good thing. The truth is, the Philippines is poor and corupt because our elders collectively made it that way and are now teaching succeeding generations to not question them, but instead follow in their footsteps.) They automatically do mano po (touching of the forehead to the back of an elders' hand) and would avoid questioning or arguing with something an elder would say. The fil-foreigner on the other hand, doesn't see it as questioning the elder but rather addressing what the elder said. Pinoys see this as arrogant, or the cath all term here "mayabang."

Do you poke fun at them, the same way we do, when a person is new to the US and comes here to live...?

The poking of fun that Fil-foreigners sometimes gets is fundamentally different than the offensive name calling and labelling met by new Filipino immigrants. The poking of fun is a childish attempt to make oneself feel equal to someone he/she perceives as having had more opportunity and is sometimes seen as superior educationally (better English) and materially. The name calling and labelling is a malicious, fear driven attempt to disassociate, belittle or reject someone else who's seen as inferior.

Please, English only ! I don't understand Tagalog, and YES, I am a Pinoy...but a 3rd generation American, so we mostly speak English. But I'd like to hear what you guys have to say.

I couldn't read a lot of the posts in Tagalog earlier in the thread.

Any post in particular you'd like translated? There's a bit much to do all of them.

^ Excellent post Kalbo ! I was actually just thinking about this thread the other day, its 2 years old now, but just in regards to the whole Manny Pacquiao fever.

Like I've stated before, most of the American born Filipinos I know here, will do anything in their power to disassociate themselves from those they label as 'fobs', a lot of the time, even those in their immediate families.

But its so ironic now how everyone conveniently wants to be associated with Manny Pacquiao, for all of the great things he's done not just for boxing, but for Filipinos as a whole.


Thinking about what you mentioned in your post, this mentality is definitely not limited to Pinoys and Filipino-American people. The same type of attitude is carried by many different ethnicities.

Mexicans and Chicanos come to mind, as well as Africans from African, and African Americans.

Although, as a Filipino living in such an ethnic and cultural place such as The Bay Area, I have yet to see another race of people who have the affinity that Filipinos do for each other.

Everywhere I've ever worked at, I would get countless Filipino people asking me if I was Filipino, and then after finding out, sharing this sort of silent kinship that I've never seen with any other group of people.

I've gotten and given discounts out, just for being who I am. (A Filipino is never shy to ask for a discount on the basis of you also being Filipino...gotta love it...LOL)

I'm proud of who I am, and honestly I've always felt connected to my people whether they be from the Philippines, or here at home. I think a lot of that has to do with me taking the time to actually learn about the intersecting histories of the Philippines and the US, and not believing the propaganda that they teach here in the US public school systems.

I give you guys there so much more respect. We really do have it easy over here, as cliche as it sounds.