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you're funny!. And Rashad needs to learn how to strike before he can be called the future. That mantle best goes to Josh Koscheck right now

No he's not. I don't see anything special about Evans.

Well, he's improving. You can't deny that his last win was a major step up. He beat a very capable opponent. A lot of insiders in the UFC see nothing but good things for him. With the division being like it is currently, not telling if he won't shoot to a title.

Well, he's improving. You can't deny that his last win was a major step up. He beat a very capable opponent. A lot of insiders in the UFC see nothing but good things for him. With the division being like it is currently, not telling if he won't shoot to a title.

Ya Rashad is improving alright. Improving more every fight to the bore the hell outta me, he running my batteries low by me changing the channel everytime he is fighting.

his last fight was impressive.....is he still at heavyweight or did he move down?

i agree, he is going to be a major contender, he's improving dramatically, he does have good stand up (not the best but good, far better than say tino orbitz) i think he could probly take out tito at this point both on the ground or standing, but he couldn't take a lead fist like silvia or chuck liddell. He's explosive as hell though i think he has a better chance of taking guys like that down than most.

Rashad would have no chance against tito ortiz, are u serious man?? was that a ****en joke?? Rashad is a bum fighter, he not ready to fight a prized fighter like tito right now. he will still have to work his way up and fight guys like forrest griffin or babalu or somebody. And i cant see him winning against either of them.

Sam Hoger beat Rashad, but got cheated.

With that said, anybody who thinks that he'd beat Griffin, Babalu, or Ortiz right now, is beyond delusional.

Rashad and Koscheck both have a chance to compete for a belt in the future. They still need to improve their submissions and striking but they have real potential. Granted, St. Pierre is 25 and I don't see anyone taking his belt for a very long time. (Regarding Kos). And Rashad will have to wait for Chuck to retire.

griffen and babalu are both tough fighters but to count evans out in either of those fights would be delusional, forrest may be able to trade punches with another mediocre puncher but rashad is much bigger and much more powerfull. he wouldn't trade long and if he did he'd get ko'd by the bigger man. Evans would take him on the ground. Sobral is a very experienced fighter I'd probably favor him at the moment in that fight but my point is that evans is improving every fight if you can't see it than watch harder. Ortiz can only beat anyone he can ground and pound he's a one dimensional fighter, to count rashad out in that "wrestling match" is more a matter of opinion than a high probability.

rashad isnt that very big, what is he like 5'10 or something? Rashad is a very boring fighter, i dont see what u guys see in this man. If anyone of the TUF guys are to get a title shot it should be Micheal "the count" Bisping. He can throw bombs, and he can do well if someone trys to take him down, he jus springs right up again and will knee em and throw punches. Rashad vs Bisping, 2 undefeated LHW from TUF.

just watched rashad evans on ufn against sean salmon. how you like them apples!!YEAH!!(i know salmon wasn't the best looking but evans looked very good there, sort of wish he'd jab though)

that KO was sick

To crown Evans as the future is a joke.

He has proven nothing against any fighters that actually count, and he should have a loss on his record from the Hogar fight.

Wait till he fights somebody with a actual pulse before you start crowning him.

To crown Evans as the future is a joke.

He has proven nothing against any fighters that actually count, and he should have a loss on his record from the Hogar fight.

Wait till he fights somebody with a actual pulse before you start crowning him.

Who did kazuhiro nakamura beat? a washed up bustamante and randleman, i would rank rashad ahead of him.

Who did kazuhiro nakamura beat? a washed up bustamante and randleman, i would rank rashad ahead of him.

You lost me, what brought his name into this?

As far as Evans being ahead of Nakamura, I disagree. He has had more quality fights and more quality wins then Rashad has thus far, he has fought the much and I mean much better class of oppents. His second fight with Lil Nog which was close, was better then any of Rashad's fights, his win over Igor was impressive as Igor isn't some slouch. A win over Murilo 2 or 3 years ago is still impressive considering what he went on to accomplish with his nice victory over Minowa and putting up a close fight with Henderson. I'll totally agree with you on the Randleman fight as I've always considered him a major underachiever, and nothing special outside of the ground game.

the iceman will knock him out, no doubt

the guy he was fighting tonight dominated him before getting kicked in the head

the iceman will knock him out, no doubt

the guy he was fighting tonight dominated him before getting kicked in the head

I thought Salmon was controlling the fight fairly well until he started to gas and lost focus and got his head damn near kicked into the stands.

With that said, if he actually tried to do that bull**** he does on his feet against Liddell, he'd get raped before the middle of the first round, if he actually just tried to take him down, I'd say late first round.

Salmon was doin alright but he seemed like a clown and too small, he should move to 185. That kick in the beginning was funny, Rashad did alright but the guy he fought haha come on, I bet any of u guys can beat Salmon. Give Rashad a better opponent please.

Salmon was doin alright but he seemed like a clown and too small, he should move to 185. That kick in the beginning was funny, Rashad did alright but the guy he fought haha come on, I bet any of u guys can beat Salmon. Give Rashad a better opponent please.

Its the only way ufc can think of to make fighters look good, rather than put them against good opponents where the fight can be entertaining from beginning to end, they give there "spotlight" fighters cans making for ****ty fights but good finish's.. Oh yah and it's a good way for fighters to get hurt as we all saw lastnight..

Boycott ufc and there ****ty fight cards and match ups.. we want competition in our sport, not a spectacle in a slaughter house..

this was a good matchup for Evans as he finally met up with someone he could not outwrestle, so he had to use his standup to win. Its part of the learning process on the way to the top tier of the 205 lb division. Id like to see him in with a Babalu or someone of that caliber though soon

this was a good matchup for Evans as he finally met up with someone he could not outwrestle, so he had to use his standup to win. Its part of the learning process on the way to the top tier of the 205 lb division. Id like to see him in with a Babalu or someone of that caliber though soon

I believe Babalu would rape him, the same goes for Griffin, even after his loss to Jardine.

griffin i don't think would do very good against rashad. babalu would be a good fight though

griffin rashad would be entertaining but pointless.. IMO rashad should be fighting ranked fighters now.. someone like?? umm hmm this is a problem..
tito should deffinatly fight babalu and thers noone left for rashad lol...

Maybe put tito vs jardine and rashad vs sobral..
who else is left??

griffin rashad would be entertaining but pointless.. IMO rashad should be fighting ranked fighters now.. someone like?? umm hmm this is a problem..
tito should deffinatly fight babalu and thers noone left for rashad lol...

Maybe put tito vs jardine and rashad vs sobral..
who else is left??

there are a few in lhw division.
Micheal Bisping
Stephan Bonnar
Randy Couture(now HW)
Tito Ortiz
Kieth Jardine
Forrest Griffin
Matt Hamill
Sam Hoger
Chuck Liddell
Quinton Jackson
Ranato Sobral
Rashad Evans

I know most of them are from TUF but those guys have lotsa talent and can be the best in UFC.

there are a few in lhw division.
Micheal Bisping
Stephan Bonnar
Randy Couture(now HW)
Tito Ortiz
Kieth Jardine
Forrest Griffin
Matt Hamill
Sam Hoger
Chuck Liddell
Quinton Jackson
Ranato Sobral
Rashad Evans

I know most of them are from TUF but those guys have lotsa talent and can be the best in UFC.



pfffttt hahahahahahahahah thanx i needed the laugh.. sorry but i was just thinkin about best in the world and it aint on that list.. pfft hahahahahah thats fukin gold..

those are the names that the ufc has to offer in lhw. They are the best names in ufc, I dont think pride will switch over anymore if herring couldnt beat a young rookie like jake o'brian.

there are much better guys in PRIDE than Herring. There will be some more switches and just wait and see once Rampage and Crocop get rolling about how good PRIDE guys can be

They Guy Rampage is fighting, did he lose to him already?? jus thought I heard it on his interview on inside the ufc.

there are much better guys in PRIDE than Herring. There will be some more switches and just wait and see once Rampage and Crocop get rolling about how good PRIDE guys can be

The better fighters in pride will get bought out by dana white and will be ufc fighters. Thats they only way they will be able to fight in the ufc, its starting off with cro cop and jackson, the rest will come later.

The better fighters in pride will get bought out by dana white and will be ufc fighters. Thats they only way they will be able to fight in the ufc, its starting off with cro cop and jackson, the rest will come later.

Another TUF noob that knows nothing is trying to tell it how it is.. aww how cute.. Now stfu so the men can talk..

Well, he's improving. You can't deny that his last win was a major step up. He beat a very capable opponent. A lot of insiders in the UFC see nothing but good things for him. With the division being like it is currently, not telling if he won't shoot to a title.

excuse me....salamon was a very capable opponent? LOL ur a funni dude....he was 8-3 who should be fighting at 185 pounds with a decent wrestling game and ****ty striking

please remember that rashadd lost the first round ( well he lost the first round clearly and up until the head kick he was losing the fight)....to call rashadd the future, its a huge over-statement...HE NEEDS TO FIGHT TITO/RAMPAGE/BABALU

That comment I made about capable opponent was in reference of Lambert. Maybe if you looked at when I posted it, you'd realize this.

Someone pass this guy the sniffs.

That comment I made about capable opponent was in reference of Lambert. Maybe if you looked at when I posted it, you'd realize this.

Someone pass this guy the sniffs.

as if lambert is in a different class than salamon? their both c+ class fighters.....it doesnt matter, its about time evans fights one of the top ufc guys

Another TUF noob that knows nothing is trying to tell it how it is.. aww how cute.. Now stfu so the men can talk..

Yes boy, relax yoself son

Rashad Evans VS Michael Bisping....Sugar VS The Count...Rashad's true test in ufc ;)

Rashad Evans VS Michael Bisping....Sugar VS The Count...Rashad's true test in ufc ;)

yes, once again let rashad fight a bisping ( who isnt that good himself)...why not

yes, once again let rashad fight a bisping ( who isnt that good himself)...why not

Have u seen Bisping fight? The best in england, very explosive and all his fights mostly end in tko or ko, similar to rashad. Should be a good matchup, he aint ready for ortiz or liddel or babalu yet.

The ufc light heavyweight division has something called depth, pride has like 6 guys in thier division, lol. LHchamp5 thinks hes a smart ass, lol ur just a typical sherdog pride nuthugger.

The ufc light heavyweight division has something called depth, pride has like 6 guys in thier division, lol. LHchamp5 thinks hes a smart ass, lol ur just a typical sherdog pride nuthugger.

what exactly do you consider depth?? some guy that managed to stay healthy and win a tv show?? no tuffer has proven himself yet and thats the depth ufc's lhw division has.. WTFU i'd rather be a so called pride nuthugger than a willing ufc nut-hugger.. thats for damn sure..

what exactly do you consider depth?? some guy that managed to stay healthy and win a tv show?? no tuffer has proven himself yet and thats the depth ufc's lhw division has.. WTFU i'd rather be a so called pride nuthugger than a willing ufc nut-hugger.. thats for damn sure..

the ufc 205 weight class has chuck, rampage, tito, ryoto machida and babalu. Then you have the mid range contenders like jardine, griffin, rashad, bisping, lambert, bonnar, and several others.

Pride has wandy, shogun, lil nog, arona, then overeem and nakamura are the gate keepers. Who else do they really have after that, travis wiuff?

What makes nakamura so great, he beat a washed up version of randleman and bustamante. Other than that he loses to every one good. Igor isnt a good fighter, he has literally no ground skills and he ****in lost to sperry and telligman for god's sakes.

the ufc 205 weight class has chuck, rampage, tito, ryoto machida and babalu. Then you have the mid range contenders like jardine, griffin, rashad, bisping, lambert, bonnar, and several others.

Pride has wandy, shogun, lil nog, arona, then overeem and nakamura are the gate keepers. Who else do they really have after that, travis wiuff?

What makes nakamura so great, he beat a washed up version of randleman and bustamante. Other than that he loses to every one good. Igor isnt a good fighter, he has literally no ground skills and he ****in lost to sperry and telligman for god's sakes.

are you retarded?? clearly you understand that pride list is bettter than your ufc list.. igor no ground skills?? the guy would school anybdoy on the ground in UFC @205+ including babalu.. Igor would knock his skinny ass out..
You are forgetting guys like yoshida(whom also takes on hw's.) hendo(whom fights at both mw and ww) see you dont' realize that pride has more oppertunity adn more potential with their fighters..

Pride fighters don't care about moving up in weight to fight a heavier fighter, they don't fear the best in fact they fight the best...

has franklin fought at LHW?? and liddell has he fought a HW?? hughes is still fighting WW for cryin out loud....
UFC fighters fear ufc fighters, now that's' sad.. no wonder tito didnt' go to pride on his layoff..
UFC is a sad immitation of what mma is meant to be. you blind bastards just can't see cause you've never taken the time to watch TRUE mma..

your the moron calling a deaf guy retarded because he can't here you..

are you retarded?? clearly you understand that pride list is bettter than your ufc list.. You are forgetting guys like yoshida(whom also takes on hw's.) hendo(whom fights at both mw and ww) see you dont' realize that pride has more oppertunity adn more potential with their fighters..

Pride fighters don't care about moving up in weight to fight a heavier fighter, they don't fear the best...

UFC fighter fear ufc fighters, now that's' sad.. no wonder tito didnt' go to pride on his layoff.. has franklin fought at LHW?? and liddell fought a HW?? hughes is still fighting WW for cryin out loud.... UFC is a sad imitatino of what mma is meant to be.

Who the **** is yoshida? The guy that got embarassed by ****in royce gracie, or better yet the guy that recently got knocked out by a tomato can. His best win is against a 0-0 mark hunt, lol.

Rogerio nogeruia still needs that BIG win, he doesnt have it yet. I dont consider beating overeem and nakamura as that BIG win. Quinton has at least beat chuck and arona.

I would easily favour machida to beat nakamura. Let's see, his standup is much better and he has done very well in grappling tournaments. What does nakamura have, one dimensional judo skills ,lol.

You need to smarten up, wanderlei is running out of opponents. Who is he gonna fight after nogeria, arona again, lol.

Igor lost to tra telligman, lmfao.

Who the **** is yoshida? The guy that got embarassed by ****in royce gracie, or better yet the guy that recently got knocked out by a tomato can. His best win is against a 0-0 mark hunt, lol.

Rogerio nogeruia still needs that BIG win, he doesnt have it yet. I dont consider beating overeem and nakamura as that BIG win. Quinton has at least beat chuck and arona.

I would easily favour machida to beat nakamura. Let's see, his standup is much better and he has done very well in grappling tournaments. What does nakamura have, one dimensional judo skills ,lol.

You need to smarten up, wanderlei is running out of opponents. Who is he gonna fight after nogeria, arona again, lol.

Igor lost to tra telligman, lmfao.

the guys has achieved something that NO UfC fighter has... GOLD OLYMPIC MEDAL *****.. oh yah and he had the balls to fight wanderlei not once but twice..someone like you would favor machida.. Why cause he beat franklin 15yrs ago?? get oout of the past.. guess you cant' your still watchign ufc.

Not a single LHW ufc fighter has a single big win... nobody liddell's ko of couture was not big, couture was like 39 at the time?? wow big win there..
what hsa tito dun?? hmm oh thats right he also beat up a 40yr old.. not once not twice but he had to do it 3x.. now thats just pathetic.. Even more pathetic is that you defend the BS..

Do you americans have subliminal messages in your tv or something down there, i'm starting to worry about all the non-sense bull**** you guys are buying into..

the guys has achieved something that NO UfC fighter has... GOLD OLYMPIC MEDAL *****.. oh yah and he had the balls to fight wanderlei not once but twice..someone like you would favor machida.. Why cause he beat franklin 15yrs ago?? get oout of the past.. guess you cant' your still watchign ufc.

Not a single LHW ufc fighter has a single big win... nobody liddell's ko of couture was not big, couture was like 39 at the time?? wow big win there..
what hsa tito dun?? hmm oh thats right he also beat up a 40yr old.. not once not twice but he had to do it 3x.. now thats just pathetic.. Even more pathetic is that you defend the BS..

Do you americans have subliminal messages in your tv or something down there, i'm starting to worry about all the non-sense bull**** you guys are buying into..

how did the gold medal help karam gaber and others that failed.

Chuck doesnt have big wins, wow ur pretty stupid. Dont even bother replying.

Lets see wanderlie pads his record on japanese cans and usually loses to anyone good. Not to mention that his win over arona was a complete joke, arona easily won both fights.

chuck has beat:
tito x2
couture x2
babalu x2
overeem
belfort
randleman
mezger
bustamante
monson

yeah thats not good enough, right idiot.

Why isnt wanderlei fighting rogerio or arona again, maybe its cuz pride knows he will lose again. The sad thing is that you actually have to defend an org and act like u work for them. I watch both orgs, maybe you should try that too.

Randy was old when he first started mma, so basically any win over him is useless right, lol. Couture was ranked in the top 3 when chuck beat him dumbass.

just wanted to add, that, yes, Franklin has fought at lhw, he moved down to 185 (obviously, he's a huge 185, haven't you noticed? he's ripped and his face looks like a skeleton with skin stretched over it.) LHW you don't watch any UFC do you?

Why isnt wanderlei fighting rogerio or arona again, maybe its cuz pride knows he will lose again. The sad thing is that you actually have to defend an org and act like u work for them. I watch both orgs, maybe you should try that too.

Randy was old when he first started mma, so basically any win over him is useless right, lol. Couture was ranked in the top 3 when chuck beat him dumbass.


Is that according to the same morons that rank liddell #1 as of now??
To be the best you have to beat the best.. Chcuk tried but didn't even make it to the best so fukin blow me and you illogic..

how did the gold medal help karam gaber and others that failed.

Chuck doesnt have big wins, wow ur pretty stupid. Dont even bother replying.

Lets see wanderlie pads his record on japanese cans and usually loses to anyone good. Not to mention that his win over arona was a complete joke, arona easily won both fights.

chuck has beat:
tito x2
couture x2
babalu x2
overeem
belfort
randleman
mezger
bustamante
monson

yeah thats not good enough, right idiot.

you call that a list of accomplishments??
overeem was a kid and couture an old man (wow how brave chuck)
(when he fought someone of his own age, size and stature he got TKO'd remember??)

wanderlei beating arona puts anything chuck has done to shame.. arona is 10x greater than anyboyd liddell has fought.. even couture.. hey moron when liddell fought couture for hte second, couture was previously tapped out by valintijn overeem.. thus couture was already comming off of a loss..

But i guess a TUF noob wouldn't know that, whats wrong, fight finder didn't tell you that??

maybe you should try to expand your horizons retard. pride is not the be all end all of mma. Why would Rampage, Silva and Cro Cop want to come to the UFC if it was a crappy organization. Rampage said it was like Christmas coming to the UFC. don't be such a racist. everything doesn't come down to "stupid american..."

maybe you should try to expand your horizons retard. pride is not the be all end all of mma. Why would Rampage, Silva and Cro Cop want to come to the UFC if it was a crappy organization. Rampage said it was like Christmas coming to the UFC. don't be such a racist. everything doesn't come down to "stupid american..."

becuase they were the few fighters offered the money.. cro-cop a nnob to the UFC is currently their highest payed fighter.. when has that ever happend?? how does liddell and tito feel about that??

IMO liddell should be hands down the highest paid fighter unfortunatly for him(he's not hte smartest guy{no offense}) and dana white takes advantage of him.. It's clear. Hes' been the ufc's biggest draw for many years and was being payed chump change throughout most of it.

but i forgot you morons's agree with that.

how the **** did this turn into a anti pride/lidell is god thread??/? you guys are ****ing fools....rashad isnt **** till he fighting someone worth talking about and thats all...close thread

you call that a list of accomplishments??
overeem was a kid and couture an old man (wow how brave chuck)
(when he fought someone of his own age, size and stature he got TKO'd remember??)

wanderlei beating arona puts anything chuck has done to shame.. arona is 10x greater than anyboyd liddell has fought.. even couture.. hey moron when liddell fought couture for hte second, couture was previously tapped out by valintijn overeem.. thus couture was already comming off of a loss..

But i guess a TUF noob wouldn't know that, whats wrong, fight finder didn't tell you that??

he wasnt coming off a loss, wow ur an idiot.

Wanderlei tried to be ufc champ and failed, then he goes to pride and wins thier belt, lol.

mods, please delete this thread! their is so much false info here its sad....i really dont want new mma fans reading this type of ****!

lol. I'm reading through some of the replies people posted on this thread.

I told y'all so. Rashad is the future and he is going to beat Lyoto Machida.