View Full Version : can you eventually learn to take a power shot??
warriorsingh84' 11-18-2006, 06:27 PM question: as time goes on and you get more experienced at sparring, can you begin to get more "immune" to heavier shots??? like lets say if your really green when you start out and you constantly keep backing away after taking a heavy shot, can you build more pain toughness after awhile?? or is this something that you have to live with as you keep boxing?? just wanted to know
oshea1690 11-18-2006, 06:42 PM Yeah definitly. Many people take medicine balls and throw them at a partenrs stomach to make the body shots hurt less and to build up that mid section. The same goes for when you take shots in the ring, youll get used to them. Also, building up your neck can increase your ability to not get knocked out as easily.
Rampage* 11-18-2006, 08:45 PM absoloutly, you build tolerance as you go
esponda 11-18-2006, 08:52 PM yes , i think.....
circleinsidebox 11-18-2006, 09:14 PM u dont learn
ur body learns to tolerate
unless ur a punk
KingDosia 11-18-2006, 10:38 PM ko's are a funny thing. It's your central nervous system shutting down to avoed too much trauma. You body could learn that "well that kept me alive last time" so it is easier for it to happen the next time. You see it all of the time Roy Jones look how long it took for sombody to ko him, all of the sudden a jounyman ko's his ass amd makes him ****, Tyson couldn't knock him down for **** now hell I probably could. Not that those two examples are the best to point out, They both have other probalems outside of taking a shot. My point is And I am getting to it. You learn how to roll with the punches, Get a better resistance and feel for what hurts you and what you just think hurt. But I don't think you can take a glass jaw and turn it to granite if thats what you mean. I think the opposite is more likely
RonRoss 11-18-2006, 10:47 PM i agree in some ways,in boxing ur gonna get hit harder the better u get,because u face a higher stander of opponent the more u progress,like an amateur going into the pros,will addapt to the power of pro fighters even thou he has been used to fighting with headgear and more padded gloves,so yeh in a way ur body will get used to harder punches,but 2 be honest i think its all about the heart
warriorsingh84' 11-18-2006, 10:55 PM I don't mean KO punches necessarily, what i mean is can you eventually learn to tolerate those punches that are meant to seriously daze and hurt you bad enough to even break your nose??? cuz sometimes when I get hit by a heavy hook I end up getting shaken and start bringing my hands down which lets the other guy hit me with a combo. I've only had like 2 sparring sessions though, 3 rounds, so I'm still workin on holding my ground and keepin the hands up...
RonRoss 11-18-2006, 11:01 PM dont worry,u will pick things up that help u,boxing is about not getting hit,so before u start thinkin bout bein able to take the punches,learn ways to avoid them,its all about building ur own style,we cant all be like arturo gatti
Rampage* 11-18-2006, 11:25 PM Tyson couldn't knock him down for **** now hell I probably could.
I dont think so......
yrrej 11-19-2006, 02:14 AM Yeah, you can learn to take a heavier shot, which is one reason we have trainers to protect us from getting too carried away. The idea is to hit and not get hit. That being said, anybody 200 pounds or more has the power to knock out anyone else if they hit them right....
oshea1690 11-19-2006, 08:48 AM Well, im not expert but i was on the assumption that ko's happen when your head is hit so hard your brain rattles against your skull. Thats why boxers build up their neck so theyr head doesnt move as much when hit. When your brain rattles against your skull it momentarily makes you "black out" which is in boxing a knock down.
oshea1690 11-19-2006, 08:49 AM Yeah, you can learn to take a heavier shot, which is one reason we have trainers to protect us from getting too carried away. The idea is to hit and not get hit. That being said, anybody 200 pounds or more has the power to knock out anyone else if they hit them right....
Any body can knock somebody in their weight class out, pacman is not anywhere near 200 lbs and he knocked down erik 3 times last night.
Samuel F. 11-19-2006, 10:56 AM Im 14. You think I could knock someone out in my weight class(Im 137)? :\
KingDosia 11-19-2006, 03:01 PM I don't mean KO punches necessarily, what i mean is can you eventually learn to tolerate those punches that are meant to seriously daze and hurt you bad enough to even break your nose??? cuz sometimes when I get hit by a heavy hook I end up getting shaken and start bringing my hands down which lets the other guy hit me with a combo. I've only had like 2 sparring sessions though, 3 rounds, so I'm still workin on holding my ground and keepin the hands up...
You can push your threshold of pain, That is a mental thing not a physical one. Remember the pain you feel is only your mind telling itself you are hurt somewhere. Which is why things like pain killers work they intercept that nervous transmital. As you progress with your skills training, You will learn to roll your shoulders use your feet and roll with the punches to absorb power shots better. So to answere your question absolutly You can get better at being on the receiving end of power punches.
KingDosia 11-19-2006, 03:09 PM Well, im not expert but i was on the assumption that ko's happen when your head is hit so hard your brain rattles against your skull. Thats why boxers build up their neck so theyr head doesnt move as much when hit. When your brain rattles against your skull it momentarily makes you "black out" which is in boxing a knock down.
Thats not what happens. There are a ton of major nerves in your neck. When your head is torqued against that nerve just right your equilibrium can be set off causing your body to be disoriented, and dizzy, your body shuts down. It is part of your minds survival tactics. Your central nervous system will also shut you down for taking a large amount of head trauma to defend iself as well. The effect of your brain rattling around is a bruising called a concussion. Again you can get "shut down" if your body experiences that kind of trauma as well.
KingDosia 11-19-2006, 03:13 PM I read this artical on another site I think if is a pretty good one for this thread I'll paste it here instead of link it for the lazy or slow cpu's
The Heart of Boxing
By Tom Shook - Published in 2005
The fighting sports are amongst the most difficult athletic pursuits known. Most sports require a high level of physical conditioning and mental preparation, but only the brutal one on one competition of a fight can so absolutely invoke the primal survival instincts that each of us posses. There is something raw, wild and unyielding that occurs when a fighter steps into the squared circle. Preparing for this activity requires more than physical preparation, it also requires spiritual strength. What motivates a fighter to go on despite immeasurable fatigue, pain and injury? Standing alone, almost naked and facing an opponent bent on knocking you out is a very unnerving experience. Doing that more than once could be considered insane! Champions not only do this many times, they thrive in this environment.
Miles of roadwork and heavy bag punching will not prepare you for the moment when your opponent lands a crisp punch and destroys your equilibrium. The human nervous system is a marvel of evolution. It allows us to think, move, create and express ourselves in many different ways. Unfortunately, it is also subject to the forces of physics. Disrupted nerve impulses lead to all sorts of alterations in cognitive, emotional and motor ability. A fighter that receives a hard blow on the chin could find himself suddenly dizzy, disoriented and unable to move the way he wants to. Does a champion admit defeat and quit the fight? Hell no! He summons up his spiritual strength and fights on. The old timers call the ability to do this heart. It is what separates champions from every one else. The most physically gifted athletes in the world will never achieve success if they fold when the going gets tough.
How does one go about training his “heart” or spiritual strength? This is something that a lot of us are born with to some degree. We all know people with an absolute can-do, never give up attitude. Despite this truth, spiritual strength must also be cultivated. A fighter needs to forge himself in a crucible of focus, discipline and hard work. Each day pushing himself to do more and be more than he was the day before. It starts in the gym, doing one more round of sparring, attacking the bag with ferocity and determination, getting out and training in the cold, wet, uncomfortable conditions that all of us must face if we are committed to winning. Staying disciplined with preparation and making oneself impervious to pain and resistant to fatigue through training, training and more training develops it even further. But training alone is not enough. You can develop a great deal of physical skill and toughness through training, but spiritual strength must be taken a step further.
You have to ask yourself how bad you want to win and be prepared to do what it takes to achieve victory. The time to ask yourself how bad you want it is not when you are reeling from a hard combination. When the day comes, and it will come, that you must fight through the pain and punishment being inflicted upon you by your opponent you need to already have an answer to that question. You must know deep down in your soul that you will be victorious at all costs.
Don’t hide from the truth. Live in the world of the absolute. Boxing is a brutal business, and you will be hurt in the ring at some point during your career. The hidden key to boxing is knowing that truth, accepting it and being prepared to fight through that hurt when the time comes. You must go about all of your preparation for boxing with this fact in mind. This type of spiritual strength is not developed over night. It takes time and work. Don’t wait until you get your bell rung in the ring, get to work today preparing yourself to deal with and overcome adversity.
I agree with the author in that you can summon the strength to keep going when the body wants to stop. I would use this fact to answere Yes to the thread starteres question.
oshea1690 11-19-2006, 05:14 PM Im 14. You think I could knock someone out in my weight class(Im 137)? :\
Yeah, age has nothing to do with it. I dont mean if you are an out of shape lazy 14 yr old and hopped in with a very conditioned guy at the same weight, i mean if you trained properly and had experienece, yes you could.
Part of our warmup is two rounds of throwing a medicine ball at our partners mid section.. and if you don't throw it hard enough, the trainer will come over and let you know how hard he wants it thrown. :) I love people who push you to your limits.
Scottie2Hottie 11-20-2006, 05:16 AM its a pyramid graph. itll go up for awhile, then go down if you get too old or take 2 much damage
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