I say nobody besides Hughes. WEll?

Well we will just have to see about that one!

scorpion

Carlos Newton has the abilities to beat Lawler

Tell me how Lawler would do againts A. Silva! lol Lawler would get ****ing murderd. Silva is the best striker in that division and is also a bjj black belt. Newton, Hughes and A. Silva would all beat him. by the way if anyone thinks Lawler can out strick Silva they should stop with the drugs.

I'm with you big-g, and I have not seen any style come out of Lawler. You think a hard punch is all a guy needs against a really good all around fighter, how about Sean Sherk??

Newton could beat him....

i think Jeremy Jackson has a chance......

Carlos Newton could be anything IMO...

Newton
Hughes
A. Silva
Castillo
Sakurai
Trigg

"The Ronin"

I like the way you think Dogg, I think so too! What is it that makes people think Lawler is such a prodigy? Please tell me, I just don't see it. When I watch alot of the fighters, they have a style, a kind of a beauty about the way they move. Has Lawler gone up against anybody really good? For gods sake during his fight with Tiki, one of his "hits", punched the ground, before actually hitting Tiki's head! He is slow, shit I can move faster than him, vacuuming......

Oh, and that up and comming guy from Houston, Texas.

I think his name is Adam....yeah thats it!

He is a bad man!

Originally posted by momita
I like the way you think Dogg, I think so too! What is it that makes people think Lawler is such a prodigy? Please tell me, I just don't see it. When I watch alot of the fighters, they have a style, a kind of a beauty about the way they move. Has Lawler gone up against anybody really good? For gods sake during his fight with Tiki, one of his "hits", punched the ground, before actually hitting Tiki's head! He is slow, shit I can move faster than him, vacuuming......

Not too take anything away from either fighter during that fight, but the one that dazed tiki didn't seem to be a real solid punch. I think he may have a questionable chin. Thus allowing him to lose for not being able to defend himself intelligently. Not so much a tko, by what I saw, however he didn't seem to be all there, then the punch that got him on the ground cut him bad. I did notice the one that hit the mat as well, but if that had connect, OUCH. But if grandma had nuts she'd be grandpa. All in all, it was a good win for lawler, no one can question it, that is the only fight I have seen him in and I am not sure he is as impressive as everyone says, however the win being so decisive does say something for him.

Jeremy- sorry buddy I disagree. I don't think anyone can beat this kid. Not Newton, not Anderson Silva even. Shit- nobody likes Chute Boxe more than me but I don't think Lawler is gonna get beat.

academiachuteboxe, have you ever seen Scorpion Jackson fight??? You should get the pay per view on UltimateAthlete.tv
It is $5.00 I think, even you will be surprised. 3 tko's in 1 night! Zack Light, Mike Penabler, and Nick Diaz................ 8 man tourneys are rough, on any fighter, and having to compete in
48' , even tougher. But the most beautiful sight, was the end of the Nick Diaz fight, a bigger heart could not exist, ever.

Hughes is an excellant fighter and Yes, he would beat Lawler.

Originally posted by momita
I like the way you think Dogg, I think so too! What is it that makes people think Lawler is such a prodigy? Please tell me, I just don't see it. When I watch alot of the fighters, they have a style, a kind of a beauty about the way they move. Has Lawler gone up against anybody really good? For gods sake during his fight with Tiki, one of his "hits", punched the ground, before actually hitting Tiki's head! He is slow, shit I can move faster than him, vacuuming......

agreed

Originally posted by academiachuteboxe
Jeremy- sorry buddy I disagree. I don't think anyone can beat this kid. Not Newton, not Anderson Silva even. Shit- nobody likes Chute Boxe more than me but I don't think Lawler is gonna get beat.


Tell me how the hell would he beat Anderson Silva..actaully tell me what he would do.

Name Robbie Lawler
Record 6 - 0 - 0

Win Landon Shalter KO
Win Marco Macera TKO
Win Shogun Kawakatsu TKO (Punches)
Win Aaron Riley Decision (Unanimous)
Win Steve Berger TKO (Strikes)
Win Tiki Ghosn TKO (Strikes)

Tell me whats so great about that record, yes the way he wins is impressive but they all come off 1 punch ko's, and againts sub par competion.

yea he has yet to prove himself against any top level fighters, if you put matt hughes against all of those guys he would look like the best fighter ever. A fighters skill is defined by how it is tested and he has yet to be seriously tested.

How about this for a match up yo .... Baronie v. Lawler ! Why not considering Hues is welterwieght champ and the're both From Militich camp, why not lawler go up in wieght. Oh what a stand up brawl that would be yo! This might be a biest opinion but I give it to my boy Baronie by TKO(strikes).

Originally posted by DA_MAN
How about this for a match up yo .... Baronie v. Lawler ! Why not considering Hues is welterwieght champ and the're both From Militich camp, why not lawler go up in wieght. Oh what a stand up brawl that would be yo! This might be a biest opinion but I give it to my boy Baronie by TKO(strikes).

Who cares, Baronie would win cause he is naturally bigger,..they both vould never beat, Busta, Sak, and lindland.

NO NO NO, Lawler shouldn't move up in weight, he hasn't fought the best in his own weight, jeez, Trigg, Sherk, Newton, the list could go on & on. This whole topic started because academiachuteboxe said no one could beat Lawton except Hughes. That's like a new kid moving to a new town, & claiming he is the bully on the streets before he whips anyone! He has to Prove it.

momita is correct

True momita , I was just sayn' it would be a phat brawl. I definetly agree with you though. And as for Baronie v. Lindland well I think that Phil got screwed on there first fight I mean yea Lindland controlled him on the ground( durring round 2 and 1/2 of round 3) but Phil wooppd that ass durring round 1 and finished with a flurry of 22 unanswerd punches to the face(if they weren't fatigued he would of been xx) and in my opinion it was a pretty even fight with Baronie finishing strong there fore the dis. should of went to him. Well we'll see what's up @ DA NEXT UFC when they have there rematch. IMO Baronie : via Brutal KO..... & for Baronie v. Sack or Busta I would love to see him have the opportunity & I'm sure Phil would to!!

anybody who can throw a quick cross and take a few punches

He could beat Anderson Silva with a right cross. He would beat all of those other chumps the same way, including Baroni. Carlos Newton wouldn't stand a chance. Robbie Lawler is the next big thing in the UFC.

Well academiachuteboxe, you are a true fan of Lawler, there are many up & coming young fighters, including the "Scorpion" who will make their mark and be the topic of many forums. Thats what MMA is all about, fans of fighters! Everybody has a favorite, which in turn will sell tickets to the events. :)

I just think his technique is way too sloppy. Get someone in there who can hit him hard and he will crumple. He usually takes a lot of hits before he gets those big punches in. The problem is there is nobody with world class hands that he is competing against. Guy is exciting as hell to watch, but I think he has a long way to go

Originally posted by SubmissionWolf
I just think his technique is way too sloppy. Get someone in there who can hit him hard and he will crumple. He usually takes a lot of hits before he gets those big punches in. The problem is there is nobody with world class hands that he is competing against. Guy is exciting as hell to watch, but I think he has a long way to go

dito

Newton.

I wouldn't mind seeing Lawler fight Pete Spratt, I haven't gotten to see Spratt use his striking in the 2 fights I've seen, could be an intriguing matchup, and a decent fight if Zuffa doesn't want him to fight with the big boys yet.

Originally posted by Big-g
Name Robbie Lawler
Record 6 - 0 - 0

Win Landon Shalter KO
Win Marco Macera TKO
Win Shogun Kawakatsu TKO (Punches)
Win Aaron Riley Decision (Unanimous)
Win Steve Berger TKO (Strikes)
Win Tiki Ghosn TKO (Strikes)

Tell me whats so great about that record, yes the way he wins is impressive but they all come off 1 punch ko's, and againts sub par competion.

First of all, Riley and Berger are good fighters, and not sub par as you have so unfairly called them.

As for Lawler, there's a lot of hype surrounding this kid, and it's understandable. Zuffa's promoting him big time because he's exciting to watch and he can bring in the mainstream fans with his fighting style. The fringe and casual fans (which vastly outnumber the hardcore MMA fan) would rather see someone like Lawler throw down and knock somebody's head off rather than watch Newton slap a Kimura on somebody. And if you saw UFC's big cable network debut on "The Best Damn Sports Show, Period" a few months ago, you'd know that the only fight they did broadcast from that entire event was Lawler's KO of Berger.

Originally posted by mmafanman
First of all, Riley and Berger are good fighters, and not sub par as you have so unfairly called them.

As for Lawler, there's a lot of hype surrounding this kid, and it's understandable. Zuffa's promoting him big time because he's exciting to watch and he can bring in the mainstream fans with his fighting style. The fringe and casual fans (which vastly outnumber the hardcore MMA fan) would rather see someone like Lawler throw down and knock somebody's head off rather than watch Newton slap a Kimura on somebody. And if you saw UFC's big cable network debut on "The Best Damn Sports Show, Period" a few months ago, you'd know that the only fight they did broadcast from that entire event was Lawler's KO of Berger.

agreed 100%

Ya but nobody will ever know how good lawler really is. Because Zuffa will keep setting him up with guys that are good, but not top noch! So he will be the postor boy for now.

scorpion

i agree jeremy. thats why you gotta get a hold of zuffa and put in a request to **** his world up.

i know u can do it....

I already put in a request, my manager talked with Zuffa a while back, and they are trying to protect Lawler from guys like me and Pete Spratt. They want me to fight in UFC sometime this year , but they wont give me Lawler! But when I Knock out every guy they put in front of me, Lawler will have to step up. I was told they are trying to get a lot of guys out of UFC that have contracts. So they can bring in the good fighters. So most likely UFC 43.

scorpion

hell ****in yea jeremy. i can't wait to see you in the UFC. i personally think that is BS to try to protect a fighter when u guys are in the same weight class. He is not a ****ing champion, hughes is. He needs to fight EVERY worthy fighter going for hughes' title, not try to protect him so he can get that title. You have to earn it in my eyes. I think you will get your chance with Lawler, if not soon, i would contact Lawler or his people and MAKE HIM WANT TO FIGHT YOU.

if they try to protect him... where is the challenge? Or is MMA/ NHB to only set you up with people you know you can beat?

i understand your frustrations, Jeremy cause the more we talk about Lawler and his "protection team(ZUFFA)" i get frustrated and do not understand why they would tuck him away and bring him out against people he has a 75% chance of beating.

I personally like beatdowns, but to sign for one is lame. I feel that fighting is for the competition and competetiveness. If you are not fighting the best, how are you gonna get any better? the only thing i can see that doing is getting their head swollen like Lawler's is getting.

Exactly I like the way you think Dogg!

scorpion:devil

thank you brother. likewise. ;)

lawler is yet to see what a knockout is all about.
not that i hate him, but he is not what he is all made up to be.
i think he is preaty good for the guys he has fought, but they are not too worthy of opponents that he fought to give him the respect to call Lawler "the next best thing in MMA". not by a long shot.

Tiki was good. He got KTFO. Aaron ****ing Riley is DAMN good and he got his ass handed to him. I think that anyone, yes anyone that fights the ruthless one right know has about a 90% chance of eating leather and going to sleep. Everyone has a punchers chance against him but damn- that kid is explosive.

I mean- I could beat him, but thats about it :)

Why did you bring theis thread back to life. Their are many people who could trash him!

I want to be in Jeremys corner when he fights in UFC.

No. He said you cant.

Originally posted by Allison
No. He said you cant.

No, he said I bring something to the table.

Originally posted by academiachuteboxe
Tiki was good. He got KTFO. Aaron ****ing Riley is DAMN good and he got his ass handed to him. I think that anyone, yes anyone that fights the ruthless one right know has about a 90% chance of eating leather and going to sleep. Everyone has a punchers chance against him but damn- that kid is explosive.

I mean- I could beat him, but thats about it :)

Well, Tiki is good... agreed. However, watch that replay.... sure he got KTFO, but watch that PEPLAY!!!!! Lawler got ****ing lucky. His head was down..... he did'nt even know where he was swinging!!!!
Aaron Riley is the only good competitve match he has had yet. Never did Riley get his ass handed to him though. He fought hard and good and kept up more than anyone else. All of Lawler's fights end in TKOs. He has yet to fight someone with TKO power. The fighters he has fought are good, but not 100% with their hands where they can throw wild punches like he did with Tiki and land a KO.

Just wait and see..........