Who are your top 5 fav heavyweights

#1. John Ruiz
#2. Chris Byrd
#3. Sonny Liston
#4. Leon Spinks
#5. Roy Jones

Who are your top 5 fav heavyweights

#1. John Ruiz
#2. Chris Byrd
#3. Sonny Liston
#4. Leon Spinks
#5. Roy Jones
Ruiz? Byrd? Jones? WTF?!
Since when did the mental health/mental retardation clinic allow their patients to use computers?

Who are your top 5 fav heavyweights

#1. John Ruiz
#2. Chris Byrd
#3. Sonny Liston
#4. Leon Spinks
#5. Roy Jones


GODAMN THIEF!!!

Well, if I'm going to be rating them on ThaGreatest's dumb-o-meter, my list is:

1-- Duane Bobick
2-- Garing Lane
3-- Everitt Martin
4-- Willie DeWit
5-- Dave Jaco and Bert Cooper tied.

But if I'm going according to reality:

1-- Joe Louis
2-- Muhammad Ali
3-- Larry Holmes
4-- Rocky Marciano
5-- Jack Johnson

Ike Ibeabuchi-he is my 6th just because he didnt really shine but knocking out byrd in 4 rounds get my nod...Im a big byrd fan by the way.

Marciano
Louis
Foreman
Lewis
Evander Holyfield

In no particular order.

1) Muhammad Ali. Mostly outta respect for other fans' feelings.
2) Joe Louis. It's his right hand and resiliency that puts him here.
3) Rocky Marciano. Even though he fought in a relatively weak heavyweight era, he still beat four Hall of Famers, and of course there are no tallies in the L column.
4) Jack Dempsey. If he had been as active during his reign as he was in the years leading up to it, he would hold the top spot. And he'd have set a record number of title defenses.
5) Evander Holyfield. You gotta respect these guys who are told that they don't belong in the heavyweight ranks and dominate anyway. Of course, the same could be said for picks three and four too. Guess I just like the little guys.

1) Muhammad Ali. Mostly outta respect for other fans' feelings.
2) Joe Louis. It's his right hand and resiliency that puts him here.
3) Rocky Marciano. Even though he fought in a relatively weak heavyweight era, he still beat four Hall of Famers, and of course there are no tallies in the L column.
4) Jack Dempsey. If he had been as active during his reign as he was in the years leading up to it, he would hold the top spot. And he'd have set a record number of title defenses.
5) Evander Holyfield. You gotta respect these guys who are told that they don't belong in the heavyweight ranks and dominate anyway. Of course, the same could be said for picks three and four too. Guess I just like the little guys.



Hey I would have the same first 3 but I'll re-arrange it.

1) ALI
2) Rocky Marciano
3) Joe Luis

Hey I would have the same first 3 but I'll re-arrange it.

1) ALI
2) Rocky Marciano
3) Joe Luis
Sounds good to me. I'll be honest, I like the Rock more, I just think Louis was better technically.

Since "ThaGreatest" made such a ridiculous list, I'll make a fantasy list.

#1 Rocky Balboa
#2 Ivan Drago
#3 Apollo Creed
#4 Clubber Lang
#5 Tommy Gunn

hahahah how stupid yall gotta be to believe my list hahahahahh
i was just playin around lol

my real top list is

#1. Muhammad Ali
#2. Rocky Marciano
#3. Iron Mike Tyson
#4. Joe Louis
#5. George Foreman/Jack Dempsey

hahahah how stupid yall gotta be to believe my list hahahahahh
i was just playin around lol

my real top list is

#1. Muhammad Ali
#2. Rocky Marciano
#3. Iron Mike Tyson
#4. Joe Louis
#5. George Foreman/Jack Dempsey
Damn.. You're still stupid.
Tyson over Louis, Foreman, and Dempsey?
Am I seeing what happens to boxing fans after severe drug abuse?

Top 6 European Heavyweights:

Max Schmelling
Lennox Lewis
Vitaly Klichko
Wladimir Klichko
Siberian Tiger Jirov
Alexander Povetkin

Not a long list, unfortunately.

Top 6 European Heavyweights:

Max Schmelling
Lennox Lewis
Vitaly Klichko
Wladimir Klichko
Siberian Tiger Jirov
Alexander Povetkin

Not a long list, unfortunately.
I don't know much about Schmelling other than he beat Joe Louis once by KO.
Did he do anything else that made him great enough to be no.1?

I don't know much about Schmelling other than he beat Joe Louis once by KO.
Did he do anything else that made him great enough to be no.1?


Well. I thought beating Joe Louis is pretty good. I guess he is a legend and a very decent human being. He is what, 96 now? Frankly, I do not know much about him. I know more about LL, but he has a lousy personality, so I put him second.

Well. I thought beating Joe Louis is pretty good. I guess he is a legend and a very decent human being. He is what, 96 now? Frankly, I do not know much about him. I know more about LL, but he has a lousy personality, so I put him second.
Alot of stories I read about that fight say that he was lucky.
He got beat up pretty badly in the rematch.

Alot of stories I read about that fight say that he was lucky.
He got beat up pretty badly in the rematch.

There is a lot of endogeneity in any judgement.

is this your favorite, or 5 best HW?
Here is my Favorites list

Foreman
Holyfield
Holmes
Ali
L. Lewis

Will be adding Toney on the near future

Will be adding Toney on the near future
Right after you add Butterbean, right?

Right after you add Butterbean, right?

after he beats the **** VK.

after he beats the **** VK.


Keep on dreaming, friend.

hahahah how stupid yall gotta be to believe my list hahahahahh
i was just playin around lol

my real top list is

#1. Muhammad Ali
#2. Rocky Marciano
#3. Iron Mike Tyson
#4. Joe Louis
#5. George Foreman/Jack Dempsey

that list still sucks you dumb ****

stop biting my ****

after he beats the **** VK.
That will happen as soon as Hamed beats Tyson.

Alot of stories I read about that fight say that he was lucky.
He got beat up pretty badly in the rematch.
I'd say just much better prepared, Louis was over confident, under prepared, Max came in as the underdog and trained his balls off, Louis did have a shaky-ish chin and Max kept bouncing right hands off it til Joe couldn't take any more, however in the re-match a fully prepared and improved fighter what Louis was did the business quite convincing :cool:

1) Wladimir Klitschko
2) Vitali Klistchsko
3) Ali
4) Wladimir Klitchsko
5) Butterbean

I'm sorry, but after reading about how he survived the Klingon abduction, Vaseline hosing and poisining, I thought he deserved 2 spots on the list.

an 18 year old mike tyson is the greatest heavyweight ever to walk the earth no one on this planet, no time, no era could stop him EVER.

here is mine...

1) ali
2) lewis
3) marciano
4) joe louis
5) holyfield

Muhammed Ali
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Jack Johnson
George Foreman

The oldies and still the goldies in my opinion. No modern era heavyweight comes close to these guys in my opinion.

1.joe louis
2.ali
3.larry holmes
4.rocky marciano
5.george foreman

ali / louis joint top couldnt split em if I tried
3. Lennox
4. Holmes
5. Marciano

(for fun)
6. Foreman
7. Tyson
8. Holyfield
9. Jack Johnson
10. Tunney (would have been higher but not due to lack of fights at the weight.)


for those who were chatting bout Schmelling earlier, he was 99 a few weeks ago, a wonderful character and gentlemen who ended up befreinding his great foe Joe Louis and even paid for Joe's funeral. However I dont place him anywhere near Lennox as Europe's all time number one heavyweight. Not by a long way.

ali / louis joint top couldnt split em if I tried
3. Lennox
4. Holmes
5. Marciano

(for fun)
6. Foreman
7. Tyson
8. Holyfield
9. Jack Johnson
10. Tunney (would have been higher but not due to lack of fights at the weight.)





No Jack Dempsey on your list???? :eek:


I like it. :D :D I think Dempsey was hugely overrated for beating up fighters on the boxcar hobo circuit. Then when he got the title he sat on his ass for years and did nothing.

I personally have him at about #8, but I won't argue with a top-10 excluding him. :)

no, demspey was the most over rated heavyweight in history in my book, I always make a point of omitting him. :D

cheers tho!

I have upmost respect for Jack Dempsey as he was a very tough man but i heard he avoided alot of black fighters for which gets him nowhere near my Top 5 if it's ture. He wouldn't make it anyway to be honest but i still love the guy. :D

Barryboy who are your top 5 heavyweights? We need the BoxingScene Chieftens choices. :D

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Marciano
5. Foreman (though it's hard to gauge him cos' in the 2 stages of his career he was a very different fighter.)
If not Foreman i'd have Jack Johnson @ no.5, he was the Ali of his time and the way he could take the piss out of his opponents shows how far above them he was.

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Marciano
5. Foreman (though it's hard to gauge him cos' in the 2 stages of his career he was a very different fighter.)
If not Foreman i'd have Jack Johnson @ no.5, he was the Ali of his time and the way he could take the piss out of his opponents shows how far above them he was.

Yeah Jack Johnson was a really intelligent fighter of his time. He used to like to taunt and talk to his opponents in the ring. I think it's great he fought back against the racists. The looks on their faces when he got up and beat Stanley Ketchel stills makes me laugh so much. :D

:eek: Brave guy Johnson faced with all that hatred.
I can't include Dempsey in my top 5 either, guys who drew the colour line in those days just hid behind that because they probably knew they'd get put on their arse.

:eek: Brave guy Johnson faced with all that hatred.
I can't include Dempsey in my top 5 either, guys who drew the colour line in those days just hid behind that because they probably knew they'd get put on their arse.

I agree and it's a shame, i wonder how Dempsey would have fought against sonmeone like Jack Johnson. Do you think Jack Dempsey may have been a little too one dimensional for him?

That would be a good clash of styles, Dempsey attacking & Johnson trying for the counters, i'd go with Johnson, it took him being an old inactive fighter to get beat and even then it went 20 odd rounds in blazing heat if i'm not wrong, if Dempsey couldn't get rid of him in the first couple then i'd say Johnson late ko or points.

That would be a good clash of styles, Dempsey attacking & Johnson trying for the counters, i'd go with Johnson, it took him being an old inactive fighter to get beat and even then it went 20 odd rounds in blazing heat if i'm not wrong, if Dempsey couldn't get rid of him in the first couple then i'd say Johnson late ko or points.

It would have been an awesome fight, i suppose Dempsey did have the early fight advantage but like you say Johnson was one tough man. I think it was 26 rounds when Johnson got beat. :D

Who would you take in Jack Dempsey Vs Rocky Marciano? They were both the same height roughly and both had rough house styles.

I'd take Rocky every time, both guys were pretty relentless but I just feel that Marciano was a bit more durable and a better all round fighter but what a war that would be.

I'd take Rocky every time, both guys were pretty relentless but I just feel that Marciano was a bit more durable and a better all round fighter but what a war that would be.

Yeah it would have been unbelievable. What do you think would have been the biggest fight of all time if it could have been arranged? I'm talking between any fighter of weight from any era on a pound for pound kind of level. :D

I suppose a huge fight would be Sugar Ray Robinson v Muhammad Ali. don't know how exciting it would be but it would be big box office :D
I'd like to see Tyson/Marciano for some explosive action with Tyson winning early, he doesn't get into my top 5 whereas Rocky does but that's for their overall careers, for this one fight Tyson would win within 5 rounds.

I suppose a huge fight would be Sugar Ray Robinson v Muhammad Ali. don't know how exciting it would be but it would be big box office :D
I'd like to see Tyson/Marciano for some explosive action with Tyson winning early, he doesn't get into my top 5 whereas Rocky does but that's for their overall careers, for this one fight Tyson would win within 5 rounds.

:D That was an awkward question for me to ask, i've thought about that many times myself but still cannot think of the ultimate fight in boxing history. Yours is a good pick although i cannot decide what would happen myself. lol. Both were elite at what they did and could box well although on a pound for pound level i think i would give Robinson the power advantage.

Tyson Vs Marciano would be an great fight, two heavy punchers going at it. A prime Mike Tyson was devastating and no matter what crap happened later on in his career he was still perhaps one of the most brutal heavyweights of all time when he was younger. That explosive power was awesome, you could feel his pressence all over the ring. I miss the old eye thing of his, if i was his opponenet then you would smell a funny odur coming from my butt. :D

Yeah i'd give Ali the speed advantadge with Robinson getting the edge in power but don't ask me to choose a winner :rolleyes:
Another great fight would be Chavez v Duran, that would be a classic, I can't make up my mind on that one either :D

Yeah i'd give Ali the speed advantadge with Robinson getting the edge in power but don't ask me to choose a winner :rolleyes:
Another great fight would be Chavez v Duran, that would be a classic, I can't make up my mind on that one either :D

Chavez Vs Duran hmmmmmm the thing that is quite embarressing with me on these two is that i haven't seen alot of their fights. :o The thing with Chavez was his power in his hands but i suppose they didn't call Roberto hands of stone for nothing. I think about Roberto and think how Marviin Hagler couldn't stop him and then i think would he take this on points?

I think it would be a distance fight either way, both guys had solid chins, maybe Duran gets a slight edge cos' he's naturally the bigger man but both were probably best at lightweight.

I think it would be a distance fight either way, both guys had solid chins, maybe Duran gets a slight edge cos' he's naturally the bigger man but both were probably best at lightweight.

You maybe right although what happened to Duran in the Hearns fight? I was shocked the first time i saw that, i guess Hearns power must have just overwhelmed him. Hearns tried the same with Hagler but Hagler just took then all and kept charging forward. :D

That's probably where Duran being a natural lightweight and Hagler the middleweight came into play and Hearns as we know was massive even for 154 at the time, that was one of my favourite ko's though, nobody did that to Duran before or since.

Vit
Vlad
Rocky Marciano
Max Shmeling
Jack Dempsey

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Foreman
Marciano

Top 5 all time

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Johnson
4. Holmes
5. Lewis

My top five heavyweights of all-time

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. Jack Johnson
5. Rocky Marciano

I'd also like to chime in on some of the mythical matchups that were previously dicussed.

Jack Dempsey vs. Rocky Marciano: I'd personally take Dempsey, although Marciano probably has the slightest of edges in one shot power, durability, and conditioning. Dempsey has the greater handspeed and much more expansive arsenal of punches. I think Dempsey would probably land two punches to every one of Marciano's punches. It doesn't look any better for rocky when you add in the fact that Marciano was somewhat of a slow starter and that Dempsey threw punches in bunches from the very first bell. I'd say Dempsey by late stoppage on cuts.

Ray Robinson vs. Muhammad Ali, p4p: Muhammad Ali excelled and was so magnificent in the ring because of his tremendous physical gifts. Like Roy Jones, his speed and reflexes were so tremendous, he didn't need to learn conventional techniques. He could back up with his hands down, lead with hooks, etc. However, when a physically gifted unconventional fighter meets a conventional fighter that is just as gifted, the textbook fighter will most likely win. The same applies with Robinson-Ali. Ray was just as gifted, quick, but more powerful. He'd make Ali pay for his technical mistakes. Robinson by dec.

Damn.. You're still stupid.
Tyson over Louis, Foreman, and Dempsey?
Am I seeing what happens to boxing fans after severe drug abuse?

ok cool guy

Vit
Vlad
Rocky Marciano
Max Shmeling
Jack Dempsey
u chose vlad over muhammad ali
joe louis
George Foreman
sonny liston
iron mIKE!!!

hahahah how stupid yall gotta be to believe my list hahahahahh
i was just playin around lol

my real top list is

#1. Muhammad Ali
#2. Rocky Marciano
#3. Iron Mike Tyson
#4. Joe Louis
#5. George Foreman/Jack Dempsey

your avatar is ridiculous in the best way possible :D

1.Mike Tyson
2.George Forman
3.Rocky Marciano
4.Joe Frazier
5.Joe Luis

1. Muhammad Ali
2. George Foreman
3. Evander Holyfield
4. Lewis Lennox
5. Mike Tyson

1) Muhammad Ali
2) Joe Louis
3) Rocky Marciano
4) George Foreman
5) Lennox Lewis

Ali
Louis
Tyson
Liston
Marciano

1. Louis - Can't argue with greatness
2. Marciano - Undefeated, hate the argument that he never beat anyone good, wrong he beat 3 or 4 hall of famers
3. Ali - sometimes over hyped he was a great but not the greatest, anybody that should have been TKO'd by Henry Cooper when in his pomp is not the greatest boxer of all time, he would struggle to make my top 10 of all divisions
4. Liston - the guy was possible still fighting when he was 50+, he would have been higher if he had not got mixed up with the mob re Ali fight, i'm sorry it was a dive for the bookmakers.
5. Lewis - True champion, best technical heavey possibly ever, lost a couple of dodgy ones but came back to confound his critics and prove his ability

Ali, no longer in his prime got beat but beat everybody back fraizer, foreman, norton, sheaver.......

Marciano, only heavy weight champion to retire undefeated, only one in my list that i did not actually see him fight....

Tyson, yougest heavy weight champion.....

Foreman, oldest heavy weight champion????

Holyfield, blown up cruiser weight not suppose to be champion but anyhow he did.....

Thank god for WEZ, he is the only one taking about Jack Johnson.

1)Ali
2)Louis
3)Johnson

I dont see how this is debatable, after the top three is where the debate begins. Remember Jack Johnson was the best fighter on the planet way before he became champ, it wasn't his fault he was black.

As for a prime young Tyson, his youngest ever accomplishment definately gets him in the top ten but how close to these three, I just don't know.

my list would be:

1. muhammad ali
2. rocky marciano
3. george foreman
4. mike tyson
5. joe frazier

ali
louis
marciano
dempsey
foreman

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Lewis
5. Holyfield

an 18 year old mike tyson is the greatest heavyweight ever to walk the earth no one on this planet, no time, no era could stop him EVER.

i like to eat dark meat

Well if we are talking about 'best ever', then I will have to exclude Marciano and Louis from my list. Why? Because nowadays, athletes are stronger, faster, and better. Plain and simple. I could name five different heavies that would have a damn good chance at waxing Marciano or Louis in round one, granted they are way heavier than either of them..but whatever. IMO either Ali or Holmes would have boxed Marciano's ears off.

1. Ali (In his prime, he was unbeatable.)
2. Holmes (Very underrated complete fighter, he had everything except serious punching power, in his prime he was unbeatable. Had a granite chin just like Ali, he learned a lot of things from Ali.)
3. Foreman (need I explain?)
4. Joe Frazier
5. Tyson (He's only on the list because his brute power gives him a chance against anybody.)

Slip, you say Joe Louis was too small to make your list and yet Frazier is there. Frazier was even smaller than Louis in his prime, only a little flabbier.

#1 Ali

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