View Full Version : If Frank had trained Ken for the Tito fight?


Money
12-17-2002, 06:09 PM
Would it have made an iota of difference?

momita
12-17-2002, 06:28 PM
I don't think so. I think Shamrock just doesn't have the endurance anymore.

Dagger
12-17-2002, 07:12 PM
I dont think it would have made Ken win but it might have made the fight a little less gruesome on kens part ie he might of had an actual game plan instead of just stand there and go toe to toe with tito he didnt even try one submission he just fought a very stupid fight and if it wasnt for his heart he would have be KO'd

realkaps
12-17-2002, 07:39 PM
I dont think it would have mattered, I read that Tito contacted Frank for help training for that fight but Frank declined.....

child supreme
12-17-2002, 09:07 PM
it would have made a little but not much. frank even said so himself that tito is to quick and to strong for anyone to come near him.

Fallout
12-17-2002, 10:52 PM
No, it wouldn't of.

TIto is the best in the world at 205. Period

seldomTap
12-18-2002, 12:25 AM
I agree with everyone esle, it wouldn't have mattered at this point in time if Ken was armed...Tito was pretty awesome

HULK
12-18-2002, 01:45 AM
No it wouldŽnt matter cuz Tito seem to be alot stronger than Ken.

Money
12-18-2002, 12:24 PM
But wasn't Tito a lot stronger than Frank?

Kimura
12-18-2002, 12:58 PM
Unforunately, Ken is not the same fighter he was in the 90s. I have no doubt that Ken would have whipped Tito in his prime, but I guess we'll never know for sure.

badguy
12-18-2002, 04:50 PM
[quote:0f26577629="kimura"]Unforunately, Ken is not the same fighter he was in the 90s. I have no doubt that Ken would have whipped Tito in his prime, but I guess we'll never know for sure.[/quote:0f26577629]

LOLOLOLOL
And what fight of kens in the early days gives you the impression he would have whooped tito of today. Ken lost to almost anyone who was soemone in MMA Pancrease is a differant game.

Tanner Rhoden
12-18-2002, 04:52 PM
I believe that just having Frank around during Kens intense training would have made all the difference in the world.

Kimura
12-18-2002, 05:40 PM
[quote:3f3f2d7945="badguy"][quote:3f3f2d7945="kimura"]Unforunately, Ken is not the same fighter he was in the 90s. I have no doubt that Ken would have whipped Tito in his prime, but I guess we'll never know for sure.[/quote:3f3f2d7945]

LOLOLOLOL
And what fight of kens in the early days gives you the impression he would have whooped tito of today. Ken lost to almost anyone who was soemone in MMA Pancrease is a differant game.[/quote:3f3f2d7945]He kept top position on Royce for 35 minutes which means he had a lot more stamina back then and he guillotined Dan Severn with the greatest of ease; Dan couldn't even move Ken! Ken is a natural heavyweight, but his age and fighting at 205 just worked against Ken.

badguy
12-18-2002, 06:27 PM
[quote:80ad8169ed="kimura"][quote:80ad8169ed="badguy"][quote:80ad8169ed="kimura"]Unforunately, Ken is not the same fighter he was in the 90s. I have no doubt that Ken would have whipped Tito in his prime, but I guess we'll never know for sure.[/quote:80ad8169ed]

LOLOLOLOL
And what fight of kens in the early days gives you the impression he would have whooped tito of today. Ken lost to almost anyone who was soemone in MMA Pancrease is a differant game.[/quote:80ad8169ed]He kept top position on Royce for 35 minutes which means he had a lot more stamina back then and he guillotined Dan Severn with the greatest of ease; Dan couldn't even move Ken! Ken is a natural heavyweight, but his age and fighting at 205 just worked against Ken.[/quote:80ad8169ed]




Most fighters keep the top position on gracie and severn is and was no tito. fighters are mutch better. Severn also beat him. Severn got caught in the first one. he drew Oleg drew gracie and lost to severn. Ken was very good and a pioneer but he does not match up to the best ever

True_Warrior4
12-20-2002, 02:29 PM
NO TITO WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM TOO.