View Full Version : Gene Tunney vs. Rocky Marciano
Brockton Lip 10-30-2006, 03:40 PM The masterful boxer, The Fighting Marine, against the undefeated Brockton Blockbuster, who wins?
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Southpaw Stinger 10-30-2006, 03:44 PM wow chum you've cross bred an Ali/Marciano. What a combination!
As for the match up this could be an awkward fight for the rock since Tunney had tremendous foot speed. He could move backwards faster than he could move forwards, despite the fact he lacked a powerful punch. I'd favour Marciano by a late KO but it's always possible that the fleet footed Tunney could pull out an upset decision.
hemichromis 10-30-2006, 03:56 PM yough to choose tunney was a fantastic boxer his wins agianst dempsey prove that he can handle swarmers however i think the rocks slow mesured style would eventually give him the opertunity to land a bomb, when that happens tunney will be out
Brockton Lip 10-30-2006, 05:24 PM wow chum you've cross bred an Ali/Marciano. What a combination!
lol yeah. All the names I tried wouldn't fit so I went with the one I have now.
redxl7 10-30-2006, 06:17 PM Gee, this is a tough one...I think I'll go with Rocky Marciano (what a suprise) by a late KO.
Southpaw Stinger 10-30-2006, 06:29 PM Gee, this is a tough one...I think I'll go with Rocky Marciano (what a suprise) by a late KO.
I was convinced you'd back Tunney! :banana:
Gene Tunney is often overlooked and underrated when considering the greatest fighters. He had all the tools a fighter would need to defeat Rocky Marciano. A great defensive boxer with speed and stamina. He could also take a punch fairly well. And nobody (except maybe Marciano!) came into a fight more prepared than did Tunney. He studied his opponents well and trained like a madman for each and every fight.
I would not be surprised if Tunney were to win this one by a wide decision.
Still, something tells me Marciano would catch Tunney late in the fight. After all, this was one of Marcianos biggest assets; his incredible stamina and relentless style of fighting. Considering the fact that he maintained his power throughout his fights, he would only need a couple of well-connected Susie Qs to end it, and I think he would.
A tough call, but I gotta go with my all time fav in this one.
Rocky Marciano by late ko.
K-DOGG 10-30-2006, 07:53 PM The masterful boxer, The Fighting Marine, against the undefeated Brockton Blockbuster, who wins?
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Wow, nice match-up. Well, I'm not going to attempt to hide my prejudices; I almost always favour the boxer over the slugger. And, I really favour Tunney over Marciano. Tunney was an extemely intelligent fight with fast hands and fast feet to carry him out of danger. He wasn't a killer puncher; but he had enough power to get your respect. Now, while Marciano could take a helluva punch, he did have a tendency to cut, as he showed against Charles and other fighers; and that was an Ezzard Charles past his best. If you take both of these men in their prime, Tunney studies every tape of Marciano in action, finds the weakness(es) in his style; and executes.
Tunney by either close decision or later round stoppage on cuts.
Brockton Lip 10-30-2006, 09:43 PM I'm glad to see good responses!
I hope I don't seem biased, but I would have to agree with M26 on this one, he said all that I would. Marciano would be fighting similar to Harry Greb, who was able to win a decision against Tunney in their first fight (Tunney was disadvantaged though). Marciano is slower than Greb but hit harder and was more agressive, I believe he would catch up to Tunney and be able to finish him off.
The Rock by late KO.
phallusy 10-30-2006, 11:00 PM I'm glad to see good responses!
I hope I don't seem biased, but I would have to agree with M26 on this one, he said all that I would. Marciano would be fighting similar to Harry Greb, who was able to win a decision against Tunney in their first fight (Tunney was disadvantaged though). Marciano is slower than Greb but hit harder and was more agressive, I believe he would catch up to Tunney and be able to finish him off.
The Rock by late KO.
marciano would be a nightmare for tunney. guys that fought marciano used to say " anywhere he hit u it hurt " and " whenever his fist landed u'd see a flash of light ". tunney would probably be way ahead on the cards, outboxing rocky to a decision when the right hand lands, late, probably after the tenth round and stops tunney. i do think though, that gene would be able to bust the rock's face up
Kid Achilles 10-30-2006, 11:22 PM Tunney had the best legs in heavyweight history, including Ali. Ali was quicker but could not keep the pace up like Tunney. Tunney could really run all night and was very tough and strong for his size as well as an underrated puncher. Marciano was a deathwish for any aggressive face fighter but Tunney was such a crafty bastard and sharp puncher that I think he wins a close but deserved decision.
Dempsey 1919 10-31-2006, 12:31 AM Tunney had the best legs in heavyweight history, including Ali. Ali was quicker but could not keep the pace up like Tunney. Tunney could really run all night and was very tough and strong for his size as well as an underrated puncher. Marciano was a deathwish for any aggressive face fighter but Tunney was such a crafty bastard and sharp puncher that I think he wins a close but deserved decision.
Sorry, Kid but I disagree. Ali legs were better. If you watch the first Chuvalo fight and especially the Mildenberger fight, you will see that he is just as elusive in the later rounds as he is in the early rounds. And no doubt he is faster. Plus Ali carried a 212 lb. frame, while Tunney was only about 189, so Ali legs had to be stronger in order to carry that much weight.
Anyway, beating a slow, washed up Jack Dempsey doesn't mean anything. Remember even in Dempsey's prime he didn't have the best stamina, so the later rounds would be a cinch for Tunney would win, but it wouldn't be the same staory if he fought Rocky Marciano. Marciano was slower than Dempsey, but IMO he was just as fast as the version of Dempsey that Tunney fought. Marciano would just wear Tunney down, and I'm sure Rocky would knock him out since Dempsey did it once he was able to pin Gene against the ropes.
Marciano ko 12.:boxing:
hugh grant 10-31-2006, 10:18 AM I havent seen much of Tunney and dont know much about the quality of opponents he has fought. I have seen much more of Marciano, and from what i have seen of the Rock he hasnt really impressed me that much, although i like Marciano a lot.
I have heard that Marciano fought only old fighters past their sell by date, so Gene would i believe be the best opponent marciano had ever fought in his career. I have heard how respected Tunney is so it is a hard one to call for me really.
I will sit on the fence, and either could beat each other is the fairest i can be.
Animal Squabbs 11-08-2006, 04:01 AM good matchup, I think Marciano takes it though. Maybe a late stoppage.
wmute 11-08-2006, 05:45 AM Wow, nice match-up. Well, I'm not going to attempt to hide my prejudices; I almost always favour the boxer over the slugger. And, I really favour Tunney over Marciano. Tunney was an extemely intelligent fight with fast hands and fast feet to carry him out of danger. He wasn't a killer puncher; but he had enough power to get your respect. Now, while Marciano could take a helluva punch, he did have a tendency to cut, as he showed against Charles and other fighers; and that was an Ezzard Charles past his best. If you take both of these men in their prime, Tunney studies every tape of Marciano in action, finds the weakness(es) in his style; and executes.
Tunney by either close decision or later round stoppage on cuts.
hard to pick a smaller fighter against Marciano, but Tunney is one of the first "ring mathematicians", his record speaks for itself. He adapted to everything he had to face.
Tunney UD
ceboxer15 11-27-2006, 06:22 PM very good match-up, Tunney's movement with his legs were second best next to Ali. Tunney could give Marciano some trouble for the first half of the fight, but I think Marciano wins by late round KO.
Lubutheimmortal 12-19-2006, 05:05 PM Hard fight to call IMO. I can see Rocky pulling a late KO, and I can see Tunney pulling off a SD. I'd say in a trilogy Rocky takes it least 2 wins. Tunney is underated IMO, 51-1 is a nice record,..then again 49-0 is to =) .
hugh grant 12-19-2006, 08:23 PM Actually having had time to think i think Tunney would outpoint Mariciano. Marciano could slug, but Tunney footwork was top notch and that is what would win it for him. Catching Marciano on the way in.
Lubutheimmortal 12-19-2006, 08:33 PM Actually having had time to think i think Tunney would outpoint Mariciano. Marciano could slug, but Tunney footwork was top notch and that is what would win it for him. Catching Marciano on the way in.
I could see it going that way aswell. Agreed
Dempsey 1919 12-20-2006, 12:25 AM I could see it going that way aswell. Agreed
Tunney never fought someone as good as a prime Marciano. Marciano would wear him down like he did everyone else and ko him. Tunney's chin wasn't that tested either. Dempsey barely hit him, and when he did the secind time, he went down.
Lubutheimmortal 12-20-2006, 09:21 AM Tunney never fought someone as good as a prime Marciano. Marciano would wear him down like he did everyone else and ko him. Tunney's chin wasn't that tested either. Dempsey barely hit him, and when he did the secind time, he went down.
None the less a worn post prime Dempsey could still hit! Not as hard as a SuzieQ, but getting knocked down by that Dempsey doesn't mean bad chin! As I said I can see it going either way. Tunney was highly underrated, and he was a wonderful defensive fighter, and good (not great, or shall I say greatest =) ) footwork. I have no trouble veiwing him running from Rocky for 15. I also have no trouble seeing Rock hitting him over and over overtime (as he did with just about everyone he fought), and landing a solid right and Tunney not getting back up...for a fews days.
hugh grant 12-20-2006, 09:51 AM I can visualize the rock taking too many punches and dropping. I really do. After seeing him be decked........was it by Archie Moore?
Lubutheimmortal 12-20-2006, 09:58 AM I can visualize the rock taking too many punches and dropping. I really do. After seeing him be decked........was it by Archie Moore?
Yea Moore knoced him down,...but Rocky got right back up none the less.
King Koyle 12-20-2006, 11:11 AM Good fight!Tunney could easily outbox Marciano to a UD.But my gut tells me that Rocky would eventually catch Tunney and stop him in the later rounds.
Lubutheimmortal 12-20-2006, 11:15 AM Good fight!Tunney could easily outbox Marciano to a UD.But my gut tells me that Rocky would eventually catch Tunney and stop him in the later rounds.
Agreed, I beleive neither fighters beat the other 3 times straight! Just one was a good runner, and the other was a good tough hitter.
King Koyle 12-20-2006, 11:20 AM Agreed, I beleive neither fighters beat the other 3 times straight! Just one was a good runner, and the other was a good tough hitter.
Well said Lubu...It's a "pick em" fight...
Lubutheimmortal 12-20-2006, 11:23 AM Well said Lubu...It's a "pick em" fight...
Why thank you Mass Pride. Your credit is due aswell, because I was mearly agreeing with you. Well said yourself.
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