there a asian made glove so does it have the protection like winning does?anybody ever use these because im gonna join PAL next month and im looking for some sparring gloves that have good protection and feel good..thanks

They're Thai-made gloves. I wear them, comes in 8, 10, 12-oz sizes, they're almost similar with Winnings, but Windy's just a li'l more "tighter" in the knuckes.

so they good?do u reccomend them?

I know that theyre lauded on mma sites

go to www.mmamuscle.com to get em cheap.

How would someone compare these gloves to Grant Boxing Gloves, and would the Grant be worth the extra money or should you stick with the cheaper Windy gloves?

Dont get windy because theyre overpriced and designed for kickboxing, and dont get grant because they blow imo, just big pillows. If you want gloves that look ugly but act just like grants, get title plat gloves. Just got em, their very soft and have that pillow feel.

I don't really like Windy- even for a Thai glove.

For starters, all Windy equipment comes packed HARD, they need a ridiculous breaking-in period.

The leather is pretty stiff & cheap and the craftsmanship on the inside of the glove was; on the first day, as bad as my worst pair of Title gloves were after a year of daily use.
The liner on the inside of the glove came loose on my very first round.

I don't like the thumb on these gloves either- takes a lot of breaking in to be able to make a decent fist.

A lot of thai gloves, like Fairtex, have this problem- they don't build the glove with the assumption that the thumb will want to bend & clench with the fist. Fairtex is probably the worst- with the thumb of the glove designed to be absolutely straight, but I don't remember Fairtex's leather being as stiff or requiring as much break-in time.

In general, Thai gloves are not designed like Japanese gloves. Thai gloves are meant to have a minimum amount of material covering the palm and are meant to be easy to "open" so that you can catch a kick by scooping it up.

It's specifically Japanese gloves that put all of the padding over the knuckles. Chinese style kickboxing gloves are built somewhere between amateur boxing and thai style gloves.

Grant had a Japanese style glove on the market for years, you could even pick them up for 60 bux at one point. I bet if you wrote them they might still have a pair or two lying around.

Ringside's ultimate classic training glove is also a real "sweetheart" glove with tons of padding over the knuckles.

Personally, I don't like the Japanese design. It's nice on your sparring partner, but (as with the case of the ringside glove) it can make your gloved fist feel really "off-balanced", kinda like swinging an off-balanced sword or something.

For sparring that ringside ultimate training glove will be your best bet as a relatively cheap "sweetheart" glove if you're really worried about hurtin folks.

Dont get windy because theyre overpriced and designed for kickboxing, and dont get grant because they blow imo, just big pillows. If you want gloves that look ugly but act just like grants, get title plat gloves. Just got em, their very soft and have that pillow feel. Thanks, I guess I'll rule Windy out of the equation, but I have heard so many mixed reviews for Grant, some saying they are awesome, the best gloves, and some like you who say they are either a big pillow, or impossible to make a fist in... I just read boxingCPs post on Reyes gloves at ringside... do you think it could be something similar, that the bad reviews are the gloves from Ringside, the good ones from Grant? Or are they most likley the same gloves?

I wonder if BB got the wrong size of Grants or maybe Japanese style?

I just moved here from Baltimore back in March, myself; and I know a major problem with Baltimore gyms is that every one uses the same pair of gloves for everything. Most of the time you can feel your sparring partner's knuckles through his gloves.

My Grants came packed hard - months later they're still not broken in and they're FAR from big pillows.

Also, the leather on the Grants is beautiful- perfectly supple, if you have a hard time making a fist in that then it's an issue of you getting the wrong glove for the shape of your hand.

Grants are good for long, narrow fingers; Reyes are good for stubby, fat fingers. I mean, that's the pretty widely-accepted, well-established position from a lot of different folks.

You really can't go wrong with Grant or Reyes (even the ones from the Ringside catalog are still pretty good); but even Ringside gloves aren't bad, you just gotta realize what you're getting: IMF are a bit stiff & hard to break in but not bad for pulling double duty, ultimate classics are almost a front-weighted pillow glove with nice leather, and the safety gloves really are pillow gloves.

Ideally it comes down to how you train and what you're looking for from a glove. The glove can make a difference in your training & sparring, but it's not gonna turn you into Tyson.

My favorite pair right now is a pair of Classics (used to be Zepol), imported directly from Mexico- they're like Grants but seem to be for even longer, more slender fingers.
After them though, it's Grants all the way.

How would someone compare these gloves to Grant Boxing Gloves, and would the Grant be worth the extra money or should you stick with the cheaper Windy gloves?

no comparison in my book the grants are top notch. I'm lovin mine. worth every cent

Thanks, I guess I'll rule Windy out of the equation, but I have heard so many mixed reviews for Grant, some saying they are awesome, the best gloves, and some like you who say they are either a big pillow, or impossible to make a fist in... I just read boxingCPs post on Reyes gloves at ringside... do you think it could be something similar, that the bad reviews are the gloves from Ringside, the good ones from Grant? Or are they most likley the same gloves?

Reyes are mexican gloves like the Grants. They have a lot less padding in the knuckles. And I have cut a lot of training partners with those gloves. I switched to Grant and wish I would have a long time ago. You feel the punch its not a pillow, Not at all. And MIne felt almost pre broken in or somthing when I got them. They have excelent protection for the knuckles. The Reyes gloves are well constructed, but to me feel like rocks.

I know that theyre lauded on mma sites

go to www.mmamuscle.com to get em cheap.

http://mmamuscle.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=1870

:) My 16oz. inventory sells out rather quickly. These gloves are great for, well, muay thai - the only issue is that when new they hit very hard (for sparring) but will break in over time. On that note, best muay thai gloves I have ever used, and own them in both 12oz. and 16oz. myself.

On that note, we're going to be slowly breaking into the Boxing scene. Would you guys be interested in some sort os boxingscene.com user discount?

Simply put, yes.

Reyes are mexican gloves like the Grants. They have a lot less padding in the knuckles. And I have cut a lot of training partners with those gloves. I switched to Grant and wish I would have a long time ago. You feel the punch its not a pillow, Not at all. And MIne felt almost pre broken in or somthing when I got them. They have excelent protection for the knuckles. The Reyes gloves are well constructed, but to me feel like rocks.
Thanks to you and to everyone else. I've decided i'm going to get Grant training or Reyes training gloves. I have short, stubby fingers, but a big hand overall, my palm makes up for the shortness of my fingers. I have a pretty big fist, and am mostly a defensive fighter but pack a decent punch. I was about to order the Grant until I read about them not being good for short, stubby fingers by Pork Chop, and I read all about his great reviews of Grant. I don't need an extremly rough glove as I'm just going to be sparring with them, don't want to hurt anyone in sparring. What do you think I should get, taking into account the info above.

Thanks to you and to everyone else. I've decided i'm going to get Grant training or Reyes training gloves. I have short, stubby fingers, but a big hand overall, my palm makes up for the shortness of my fingers. I have a pretty big fist, and am mostly a defensive fighter but pack a decent punch. I was about to order the Grant until I read about them not being good for short, stubby fingers by Pork Chop, and I read all about his great reviews of Grant. I don't need an extremly rough glove as I'm just going to be sparring with them, don't want to hurt anyone in sparring. What do you think I should get, taking into account the info above.

Knowing what I do today I'd say Get the Grants or Title's I don't opose the Reyes gloves I do have a pair, Use them mostly on the bags and mitts. I use My grants and everlasts while sparing.

A lot of thai gloves, like Fairtex, have this problem- they don't build the glove with the assumption that the thumb will want to bend & clench with the fist.

In general, Thai gloves are not designed like Japanese gloves. Thai gloves are meant to have a minimum amount of material covering the palm and are meant to be easy to "open" so that you can catch a kick by scooping it up.

It's specifically Japanese gloves that put all of the padding over the knuckles.



I agree. That basically is the principle behind their design.

:) My 16oz. inventory sells out rather quickly. These gloves are great for, well, muay thai - the only issue is that when new they hit very hard (for sparring) but will break in over time. On that note, best muay thai gloves I have ever used, and own them in both 12oz. and 16oz. myself.

On that note, we're going to be slowly breaking into the Boxing scene. Would you guys be interested in some sort os boxingscene.com user discount?

I'm sure everyone would love a discount.

For my own personal Thai glove ranking I'd have to put Twins at the top (velcro problems notwithstanding) and ThaiSmai just below them.