http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voSPPWEI_jU

i would like to thank whoever put that on youtube

is he the best light heavy ever? or is it Michael Spinks? or Gene Tunney? or Archie Moore? or Bob Foster? or Roy Jones Jr.? or is it Darius Michaeszkywksiylkyski( j/k)?

Can't access the video; but my vote for best 175 Lber ever would be Ezzard Charles, followed by Gene Tunney....then Archie Moore, Michael Spinks, Bob Foster, Billy Conn, Roy Jones Jr., Maxie Rosenbloom, "Philadelphia" Jack O'brien, and Matthew Saad Muhammad...yeah, # 10 may be a stretch; but he was exciting as hell, wasn't he? :D


Okay, okay.....put DM in at # 10. Sheesh. ;)

Roy Jones JR is #1.

About the video, its very good. I love Ezzard's knockouts and kd's. He had very good timing.
Love the Rex Layne ko. And the Wallcott left hook reminds me of Floyd Patterson's left hook.

Sam Langford #1

Roy Jones JR is #1.


I think you are misinformed and/or a little biased.

But since you show above average understanding of what goes on in a ring in your posts, I will not jump on you.

I am sure you will change your mind.

I used to think Roy Jones Jr. was the greatest lightHW, but I changed my mind, since there are lightheavys who won the lineal HW title (Tunney, Charles, Spinks). I still think he is a great fighter, but the greats at 175 were great too and BIGGER than him.

I think Roy would beat pretty much anyone who fought around 168, it is a real shame the superMW is a young division, so comparisons are hard.

Sam Langford #1

hmmmm

hmmmm

I am not sure I agree, but he should have been in my list.

mea culpa

love the video too, ezzy was excelent. i like when he knocked rex layne outta there it was sorta a delayed reaction on one foot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voSPPWEI_jU

i would like to thank whoever put that on youtube

is he the best light heavy ever? or is it Michael Spinks? or Gene Tunney? or Archie Moore? or Bob Foster? or Roy Jones Jr.? or is it Darius Michaeszkywksiylkyski( j/k)?

Yeah, Youtube and the People that upload these videos are great

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I think you are misinformed and/or a little biased.

But since you show above average understanding of what goes on in a ring in your posts, I will not jump on you.

I am sure you will change your mind.

I used to think Roy Jones Jr. was the greatest lightHW, but I changed my mind, since there are lightheavys who won the lineal HW title (Tunney, Charles, Spinks). I still think he is a great fighter, but the greats at 175 were great too and BIGGER than him.

I think Roy would beat pretty much anyone who fought around 168, it is a real shame the superMW is a young division, so comparisons are hard.

It is my opinion he could've beaten anyone in that weightclass. I haven't been more impressed by any other fighters.
I was judging on physical ability. Not belts. Let me have my opinion.
Just like im not jumping on Yogi calling Langford #1.

Sam Langford #1

Very plausable. I almost included Langford on my 175 list; but decided not to....that was my mistake. You are more correct than I, sir.

Whether or not he was the best at 175 is debateable; but he deserves to be in the Top 5 without a doubt. :fing02:

It is my opinion he could've beaten anyone in that weightclass. I haven't been more impressed by any other fighters.
I was judging on physical ability. Not belts. Let me have my opinion.
Just like im not jumping on Yogi calling Langford #1.

I told you why i changed mine. and what i now think about roy jones jr.

I understand you have a different opinion, i just think you will change it at some point.

Just like im not jumping on Yogi calling Langford #1.

Yogi only mentioned Langford because he saw a couple of posts from smart boxing fans who failed to mention Langford's name in their writings and felt that he deserved to be in the mix...

A name dropping reminder more than anything (it appeared to have worked), although I do personally & honestly think Langford is right up there as one of the absolute greatest light heavyweights in history...

It's either Langford or Charles for me, with Tommy Loughran (another not yet named, I don't believe) also deserving of a top ten spot on my own personal list/ranking.

Maxie Rosenbloom

I have a funny story on Rosenbloom that I've posted on at least one other site in the past, my friend, and if I have time later on today (stopped raining, and I'm just about tohead out for the day) I'll pass it along to you...

It's quite humourous, I think.

I have a funny story on Rosenbloom that I've posted on at least one other site in the past, my friend, and if I have time later on today (stopped raining, and I'm just about tohead out for the day) I'll pass it along to you...

It's quite humourous, I think.

Can't wait to read it. Everything I've read about Rosenbloom was interesting, to say the least. Still, the guy was on top for a long, looong time, so I'm convinced of his credentials, regardless of his quirks.

Post it as soon as you can. :)

Can't wait to read it. Everything I've read about Rosenbloom was interesting, to say the least. Still, the guy was on top for a long, looong time, so I'm convinced of his credentials, regardless of his quirks.

Post it as soon as you can. :)

Ok, I found the article, K-Dogg, and it has to do with one of Rosenbloom's meetings with Jimmy Slattery...

From the May 2003 issue of The Ring Extra;



'Just before their second fight, in Slattery's upstate New York territory. Rosenbloom told his manager to bet a thousand dollars on his opponent. The manager told him that he could beat Slattery.

"Sure I can lick him," Rosenbloom replied, "but you know we ain't going to get the duke in this town. So why let the judges' votes go to waste?"

The bout was a tame affair. Rosenbloom held back to try to cover his bet, and Slattery didn't force the action. In a clinch, Rosenbloom tried to encourage his foe, telling him to throw punches.

"I ain't doing any punching, Max," Slattery replied. "I made a pretty good bet on you."

Slattery won the fight, and Rosenbloom won his bet. Rosenbloom tried to repeat the feat before a later meeting, betting on Slattery when he found out the bout was going to be refereed by a man who had voted in Slattery's favour in an earlier fight between the two. Rosenbloom gave less than his best, but won a decision based on the referee's vote. The referee later explained that he had felt bad about the earlier decision.'



Well maybe it wasn't as funny as I remembered it, but I do recall getting a chuckle out of the whole 'bet on each other' part of the story when I first read it. It's also kinda funny how the referee ****ed(?) Rosenbloom when he tried to throw that later fight between the two.

Ok, I found the article, K-Dogg, and it has to do with one of Rosenbloom's meetings with Jimmy Slattery...

From the May 2003 issue of The Ring Extra;



'Just before their second fight, in Slattery's upstate New York territory. Rosenbloom told his manager to bet a thousand dollars on his opponent. The manager told him that he could beat Slattery.

"Sure I can lick him," Rosenbloom replied, "but you know we ain't going to get the duke in this town. So why let the judges' votes go to waste?"

The bout was a tame affair. Rosenbloom held back to try to cover his bet, and Slattery didn't force the action. In a clinch, Rosenbloom tried to encourage his foe, telling him to throw punches.

"I ain't doing any punching, Max," Slattery replied. "I made a pretty good bet on you."

Slattery won the fight, and Rosenbloom won his bet. Rosenbloom tried to repeat the feat before a later meeting, betting on Slattery when he found out the bout was going to be refereed by a man who had voted in Slattery's favour in an earlier fight between the two. Rosenbloom gave less than his best, but won a decision based on the referee's vote. The referee later explained that he had felt bad about the earlier decision.'



Well maybe it wasn't as funny as I remembered it, but I do recall getting a chuckle out of the whole 'bet on each other' part of the story when I first read it. It's also kinda funny how the referee ****ed(?) Rosenbloom when he tried to throw that later fight between the two.

lol!!!! Naw, that is pretty funny. You gotta love irony. :)

Thanks for sharing, bud.

Ok, I found the article, K-Dogg, and it has to do with one of Rosenbloom's meetings with Jimmy Slattery...

From the May 2003 issue of The Ring Extra;



'Just before their second fight, in Slattery's upstate New York territory. Rosenbloom told his manager to bet a thousand dollars on his opponent. The manager told him that he could beat Slattery.

"Sure I can lick him," Rosenbloom replied, "but you know we ain't going to get the duke in this town. So why let the judges' votes go to waste?"

The bout was a tame affair. Rosenbloom held back to try to cover his bet, and Slattery didn't force the action. In a clinch, Rosenbloom tried to encourage his foe, telling him to throw punches.

"I ain't doing any punching, Max," Slattery replied. "I made a pretty good bet on you."

Slattery won the fight, and Rosenbloom won his bet. Rosenbloom tried to repeat the feat before a later meeting, betting on Slattery when he found out the bout was going to be refereed by a man who had voted in Slattery's favour in an earlier fight between the two. Rosenbloom gave less than his best, but won a decision based on the referee's vote. The referee later explained that he had felt bad about the earlier decision.'



Well maybe it wasn't as funny as I remembered it, but I do recall getting a chuckle out of the whole 'bet on each other' part of the story when I first read it. It's also kinda funny how the referee ****ed(?) Rosenbloom when he tried to throw that later fight between the two.

I don't get it.