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Joe is bigger but Sugar Ray is Sugar Ray. I'm gonna have to go with Leonard by UD.

Sugar Ray Leonard would take it easily in my opinion.....too classy and way too good. I can't see Calzaghe beating Hearns, Hagler or Duran and Ray L beat all of them.

Have to go with the Sugar man!

Sugar Ray Leonard is IMHO the greatest of all time, but he was also a natural welterweight, Joe Calzaghe started at SMW and will most likely be moving up shortly, I'm going to go with Joe Calzaghe by a close UD.

Sugar Ray Leonard is IMHO the greatest of all time, but he was also a natural welterweight, Joe Calzaghe started at SMW and will most likely be moving up shortly, I'm going to go with Joe Calzaghe by a close UD.

It's only a small size difference. Sugar Ray was competitive at welter, middle and super middle. I'm sure he can handle the jump in weight and use his superior skills to win a decision.

Calzaghe would blow Leonard out of the water, a young Calzaghe would be far too big and strong for him at 168.

At 147, I see Leonard winning.. because Joe was only a teenager.

It's only a small size difference. Sugar Ray was competitive at welter, middle and super middle. I'm sure he can handle the jump in weight and use his superior skills to win a decision.

This wasn't a prime Leonard, and Joe is bigger and faster than Hagler was, I just see Leonard having alot of trouble shaking Joe off him, I can see Joe tagging him frequently and Leonard getting angered by it and drawn in, losing a decision.

Leonard, because he's not overrated.

Suger Ray by UD.

Very hard decision, but i will go for Joe Calzaghe at Supermiddlewight on points.

leoanrd in his peak...easy clowns Calzaghe...No leoanrd would not let his anger of getting hit by a clean shot, sidetrack him and get into a war. Come on.....Ray did this one time vs duran, and look at what he was able to do after this by simply using his mind, and adapting to the style that would allow him to be successful. Why all of a sudden is leonard going to simply ignore his speed and boxing ability this night....hmmm Finally the leonard that faced hagler was not at his peak, and he was slow..If Ray had fought hagler in 83, you would have seen the blueprint he would have used for calzaghe...If leonard had fought hagler in 83 (when duran almost beat him) he would have probalby won a very easy fight...The only thing that made that fight close was that ray wars inactive for 5 yrs..and he had lost all his stamina

leoanrd in his peak...easy clowns Calzaghe...No leoanrd would not let his anger of getting hit by a clean shot, sidetrack him and get into a war. Come on.....Ray did this one time vs duran, and look at what he was able to do after this by simply using his mind, and adapting to the style that would allow him to be successful. Why all of a sudden is leonard going to simply ignore his speed and boxing ability this night....hmmm Finally the leonard that faced hagler was not at his peak, and he was slow..If Ray had fought hagler in 83, you would have seen the blueprint he would have used for calzaghe...If leonard had fought hagler in 83 (when duran almost beat him) he would have probalby won a very easy fight...The only thing that made that fight close was that ray wars inactive for 5 yrs..and he had lost all his stamina

your breakdown of hagler-leonard is one of the most of the original opinions I have read about it.

(I am being polite)

I take Calzaghe by UD: he is a very good SMW (if not great), which is something leonard never faced

Ray was not close to being a 12 stone fighter but even still he beats the feather fisted overrated sloppy Calzaghe. The LEONARD THAT BEAT LALONDE wins any way he decides

Ray was not close to being a 12 stone fighter but even still he beats the feather fisted overrated sloppy Calzaghe. The LEONARD THAT BEAT LALONDE wins any way he decides

I thought it was kind of obvious that Calzaghe is a slightly different commodity than Lalonde.

A dehydrated Johnny Lalonde actually who was fighting at the ridiculous catch weight of 167, while being a 175 beltholder.

Sugar Ray UD, He handled Hearns who was a lot bigger. Haggler, Duran - stronger. I have no doubt he wins this one.

Leonard had 2 fights above 160

Lalonde (see above)....

Hearns (Leonard admitted losing the fight) (Hearns was a former welterweight)

oh you can throw in his defense of the 168 belt against Duran (former lightweight), while both were weighing in at the MW limit

Sugar Ray UD, He handled Hearns who was a lot bigger. Haggler, Duran - stronger. I have no doubt he wins this one.

are you saying Hearns is bigger (taller, yes) than calzaghe?

and Duran stronger than calzaghe?

At 168 hoe wins

p4p leonard wins.

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Sugar Ray by UD.

Leonard by UD....

I thought it was kind of obvious that Calzaghe is a slightly different commodity than Lalonde.

A dehydrated Johnny Lalonde actually who was fighting at the ridiculous catch weight of 167, while being a 175 beltholder.

it was bullshit to make lalonde defend his 175 lb title at 168. wmute, i'm not saying this for u but for the other guys on this thread, lalonde was a big puncher and slow, he's nothing like calazghe. calzaghe has lighting fast combinations, even ray leonard would be suprised at joey's handspeed. i don't see calzaghe beating ray leonard, though