LOADS of the people at school have discouraged me from going to the gym and doin weights cos they say weights make me shorter..

Wtf ? I`m already a short dude and no, i do not wanna be a midget. But no weightlifting? How am i suppose to work out?

So is it true that weights make you grow shorter or grow slower or are they just askin for a slap in the nuts? :nonono:

Your bones grow till you are 21 years old. Hard weight training at a too young age does stop your natural growth.

Your bones grow till you are 21 years old. Hard weight training at a too young age does stop your natural growth.

thtas a myth.

theres is not evidence that support your claim.


hit the weights, but be careful at young age so you wont get injured


this has been discussed over and over again.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34445

LOADS of the people at school have discouraged me from going to the gym and doin weights cos they say weights make me shorter..

Wtf ? I`m already a short dude and no, i do not wanna be a midget. But no weightlifting? How am i suppose to work out?

So is it true that weights make you grow shorter or grow slower or are they just askin for a slap in the nuts? :nonono:

WHERE DO PEOPLE COME UP WITH THIS STUFF? IT IS ABSOLUTLY A MYTH, PROBABLY ONE THAT CAME FROM THE 30'S OR SOMTHING AND TRICKLED DOWN THROUGH THE AGES. MUSCLES STREATCH RIGHT? SO WHY WOULD ENHANCING THEM STUNT YOUR GROWTH?:nonono:

I don't know, but did you ever notice that most people that lift weights are kinda short and bulky. Just sayin

are you ****in retarded... Ive lifted since i was in 7th grade, and im 6'2... I think almost every person i know who lifts is taller than shorter

I don't know, but did you ever notice that most people that lift weights are kinda short and bulky. Just sayin

No, the people who are GOOD at lifting weights (ie. weightlifting and powerlifting) are short and bulky, because it's an advantage.

Do you think NBA players get real tall from playing basketball? "But they're so tall, it must be from basketball" :duh: It's the other way around.

Incidentally, NBA players (and most other even semi serious basketball players) lift weights. Short and bulky?

are you ****in retarded... Ive lifted since i was in 7th grade, and im 6'2... I think almost every person i know who lifts is taller than shorter

It must have been all the basketball you've been playing. If you hadn't lifted anything at all your whole life, including your bookbag, you could have been 7' 5".... :rolleyes:

weight lifting when your not fully grown damages your growth platlets

weight lifting when your not fully grown damages your growth platlets

I have hear this too from a physiotherapist.

I have heard you should avoid squatting before forteen to avoid damaging your growthplates. I dunno.

I have hear this too from a physiotherapist.

i got told this when i was younger and all the rugby boys were doing the weights with a canadian guy , he wouldnt let me do them for a few months

the reason why alot of people who lift weights are short is because they begin to lift weights in order to compensate for their size.

weight lifting when your not fully grown damages your growth platlets

Here's a little quote from a book called "Strength and power for young athletes - exercises and programs for ages 7-15" by Avery Feigenbaum, EdD, and Wayne Westcott, PhD.

"Another misconception concern growth retardation in children who train with weights. Nothing could be further from the truth. There has never been a report of stunted growth or reduced bone formation related to strength training. On the contrary, progressive strength exercise makes bones strong and resistant to injury. Because most of our bone mass is accrued during our youth years, this is the ideal time to enhance musculoskeletal strength and structure through properly designed resistance training programs. Strength training may be beneficial to young girls, to reduce their risk of osteoporosis later in life. Although strength training won't make children taller, it can contribute to physically developing their muscles, bones, tendons and ligaments."

Unless you guys have your own PhD's, I'm not ready to take your word over these guys. How many books have you written on the subject? Face it: It's a MYTH.

i agree with punchdrunk above

Here's a little quote from a book called "Strength and power for young athletes - exercises and programs for ages 7-15" by Avery Feigenbaum, EdD, and Wayne Westcott, PhD.

"Another misconception concern growth retardation in children who train with weights. Nothing could be further from the truth. There has never been a report of stunted growth or reduced bone formation related to strength training. On the contrary, progressive strength exercise makes bones strong and resistant to injury. Because most of our bone mass is accrued during our youth years, this is the ideal time to enhance musculoskeletal strength and structure through properly designed resistance training programs. Strength training may be beneficial to young girls, to reduce their risk of osteoporosis later in life. Although strength training won't make children taller, it can contribute to physically developing their muscles, bones, tendons and ligaments."

Unless you guys have your own PhD's, I'm not ready to take your word over these guys. How many books have you written on the subject? Face it: It's a MYTH.

Good Post
PunchDrunk>Stupid Myth

Nice, wasted 2 years when I couldve done weights. -.-

Thanks for the replies btw, guys.

These weightlifting myths are perpetuated by guys like this:

http://i.somethingawful.com//sasbi/2006/09/elpintogrande/fashionswat13.jpg

You see these kind of guys in the weight room doing endless reps without actually putting the pin under any of the plates. Then they buy a copy of Rocky IV and a 40-lb. heavy bag -- the kind with the water-filled base because their moms won't let them hang it in the garage. Then they get pissed off the next time they get a swirlie -- even though they spent a whole month training -- and tell their friends (by which I mean their blogs, on which they're expert boxers!) :

"All that w8lifting I did dint help my boxing at all. Im still like week N stuff."

Eventually they realize (wrongly), "Hey! Maybe weightlifting and boxing cancel each other out! That's got to be it!" The old-school training that Rocky did in the movie -- HE didn't lift weights! And, come to think of it, Steven Segal doesn't lift weights in any of HIS movies! And neither does Caine in Kung Fu! That's what's wrong! WEIGHTS!! :pat:

Eventually, they take up some exotic martial art that invariably involves spears, flying jump kicks, and chakra-stopping hands of death, and by the time their high school reunions come around, they're READY TO KICK MAJOR ASS. They're these guys: (http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1158743046/Ultra_Violence_)

LOADS of the people at school have discouraged me from going to the gym and doin weights cos they say weights make me shorter..

Wtf ? I`m already a short dude and no, i do not wanna be a midget. But no weightlifting? How am i suppose to work out?

So is it true that weights make you grow shorter or grow slower or are they just askin for a slap in the nuts? :nonono:



"......how am I suppose to work out......"

This is a boxing website so presumably you should be talking about boxing training. 50 years ago few if any boxers trained with weights. 50 years ago Rocky Marciano could windmill knockout punches for 15 rounds and show no signs of fatigue. How many modern boxers can perform at that level? If old fashioned boxing training was good enough for Rocky Marciano, why isn't it good enough for you?

By the way, if your goal is to become a bodybuilder or whatever, you should go on to a bodybuilding website, or whatever.

By the way, if your goal is to become a bodybuilder or whatever, you should go on to a bodybuilding website, or whatever.

:banghead: Weightlifting is NOT bodybuilding.

Do I look like (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1843795&postcount=90) a ****ing bodybuilder to you? :chairshot

Here's a little quote from a book called "Strength and power for young athletes - exercises and programs for ages 7-15" by Avery Feigenbaum, EdD, and Wayne Westcott, PhD.

"Another misconception concern growth retardation in children who train with weights. Nothing could be further from the truth. There has never been a report of stunted growth or reduced bone formation related to strength training. On the contrary, progressive strength exercise makes bones strong and resistant to injury. Because most of our bone mass is accrued during our youth years, this is the ideal time to enhance musculoskeletal strength and structure through properly designed resistance training programs. Strength training may be beneficial to young girls, to reduce their risk of osteoporosis later in life. Although strength training won't make children taller, it can contribute to physically developing their muscles, bones, tendons and ligaments."

Unless you guys have your own PhD's, I'm not ready to take your word over these guys. How many books have you written on the subject? Face it: It's a MYTH.



My physiotherapist said the weights they were doing were too heavy.

My physiotherapist said the weights they were doing were too heavy.




You should pay too much attention to these keyboard warriors, they have lots of theories, but none of them a background in sports medicine.

There has been an extensive amount of research done in the former Soviet Union about the training of young athletes. It was found that not only will weightlifting but any kind of training can potentially stunt growth. However, it takes some very intense training to stunt growth and it is unlikely anybody would actually do that without incurring some severe training injuries. Extreme training with out injuries is difficult to accomplish, so you can assume that stunting growth is virtually impossible.

You should pay too much attention to these keyboard warriors, they have lots of theories, but none of them a background in sports medicine.


We are to understand that you have a background in sports medicine, but you don't grasp the difference between weight training and bodybuilding?

You should pay too much attention to these keyboard warriors, they have lots of theories, but none of them a background in sports medicine.

There has been an extensive amount of research done in the former Soviet Union about the training of young athletes. It was found that not only will weightlifting but any kind of training can potentially stunt growth. However, it takes some very intense training to stunt growth and it is unlikely anybody would actually do that without incurring some severe training injuries. Extreme training with out injuries is difficult to accomplish, so you can assume that stunting growth is virtually impossible.

WHERE IS YOUR DEGREE. WHAT BACKGROUND DO YOU HAVE WITH SPORTS IN GENERAL OUTSIDE WATCHING AND :peeright: JOE FRAZIERS BOOK"peeleft:
I AM A KEY BOARD WARRIOR I GUESS I POST A LOT ON HERE. I GOT A BORING JOB, THIS IS MY SANCTUARY AFTER 5PM I AM IN THE GYM TESTING THE "THEORIES" USING THEM IN THE RING. I'D BACK THEM 100% STRENGTH TRAINING HAS IMPROVED MINE AND MY TRAINING PARTNERS SKILLS DRAMATICLY. AND I'D BET MY ASS I COULD GO THE GOLDEN 15RNDS YOU KEEP BRAGING ABOUT THE OLDER FIGHTERS GOING. YOU ARE SPEWING NONSENSE TO MINDS IN SEARCH OF IMPROVING THEMSELVES. :tapedshut

You should pay too much attention to these keyboard warriors, they have lots of theories, but none of them a background in sports medicine.

There has been an extensive amount of research done in the former Soviet Union about the training of young athletes. It was found that not only will weightlifting but any kind of training can potentially stunt growth. However, it takes some very intense training to stunt growth and it is unlikely anybody would actually do that without incurring some severe training injuries. Extreme training with out injuries is difficult to accomplish, so you can assume that stunting growth is virtually impossible.

If you noticed, I actually quoted something written by a PhD before, AND posted what the publication was called. That's called backing up your claims!

You're just pulling fake BS out of your ass, with the "extensive amount of research in the former Soviet Union" crap. This is just not true, and I know that because I DO have an education in physical training. Training can NOT stunt growth, or if it can, it's NEVER been documented!

if anything, weightlifting promotes growth since doing the compound exercises release lots of HGH and other hormones.

i think they only way itll stunt ur growth is if i go above what you can handle with improper form on squats or anything thatll mess up the spine

If you noticed, I actually quoted something written by a PhD before, AND posted what the publication was called. That's called backing up your claims!

You're just pulling fake BS out of your ass, with the "extensive amount of research in the former Soviet Union" crap. This is just not true, and I know that because I DO have an education in physical training. Training can NOT stunt growth, or if it can, it's NEVER been documented!



The doctors Klitschko don't agree with you and they have the qualifications to understand the science and the language skills to read it in Russian.

The research was done primarily on young female gymnasts, who would often start serious training at about the age of 5 or 6. I can remember as far back as the 1980's color commentators at the various gymnastic championships speak about the problem of stunting growth in young athletes. As a matter of fact Jim Lampley got into a conversation about it some years ago during the Olympics.

Admittedly I can't provide any references to the scientific journals. Unfortunately I never learned how to speak Russian. Everything I have heard about it is secondhand.

ive hit the weights hard ever since age 15.

i was maybe 5'10 5'11 back then

now im 6'4,my frame grew well, and i had no problems. not everyone is the same though, just stating my case...

i lifted alot, there was rarely a day when i wasnt sore. really proud of myself for never doin steroids either.

The doctors Klitschko don't agree with you and they have the qualifications to understand the science and the language skills to read it in Russian.

The research was done primarily on young female gymnasts, who would often start serious training at about the age of 5 or 6. I can remember as far back as the 1980's color commentators at the various gymnastic championships speak about the problem of stunting growth in young athletes. As a matter of fact Jim Lampley got into a conversation about it some years ago during the Olympics.

Admittedly I can't provide any references to the scientific journals. Unfortunately I never learned how to speak Russian. Everything I have heard about it is secondhand.

Yes, what you have is secondhand, and also incorrect. The Russian gymnast story is a myth.

People rushed to a conclusion based on what they saw, like this:

The best female gymnasts are freakishly small for their age. -> they train a lot. -> Therefore the training must stunt their growth.

Problem is, they got the causality backwards. The real reason is this:

To be a succesful gymnast, you need to be small. -> Therefore the best female gymnast are, of course, the small girls.

The unsuccesful gymnasts, who did the same training, but didn't win anything because their earlier (read: more towards the norm) growth made them too big to compete with the girls who had what was a physical advantage in the sport. Therefore they were weeded out before the top level, and we never see them at the Olympics etc.

It's really the same as basketball really. In basketball, height is a great advantage, so the overwhelming majority of players at the elite level are tall. That doesn't mean basketball MAKES you tall, it just means that all the small guys get weeded out at a certain point where their physical abilities aren't sufficient.

We are to understand that you have a background in sports medicine, but you don't grasp the difference between weight training and bodybuilding?

Fraidycat is right. There is a difference between Bodybuilding / Powerlifting / Weightlifting and WEIGHT TRAINING.

If you train with weights you do not have to go all out balls-to-the-wall 90 - 100% of your maximum.

Nowdays most sports employ some kind of Weight TRAINING - even F1 drivers train in the gym.

As long as you stretch and keep a good level of flexibility/suppleness then weights will optimise performance.

learn how to fight before you even think about lifting weights.. learning how to fight takes years...

The doctors Klitschko don't agree with you and they have the qualifications to understand the science and the language skills to read it in Russian.

The research was done primarily on young female gymnasts, who would often start serious training at about the age of 5 or 6. I can remember as far back as the 1980's color commentators at the various gymnastic championships speak about the problem of stunting growth in young athletes. As a matter of fact Jim Lampley got into a conversation about it some years ago during the Olympics.

Admittedly I can't provide any references to the scientific journals. Unfortunately I never learned how to speak Russian. Everything I have heard about it is secondhand.

Why is it so much of your information stems from so called research performed 20 yrs ago? Science has evolved, so should you.

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to kingdosia again."

:kiss:

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to kingdosia again."

:kiss:

HUH????????

HUH????????

Means I can't give you any more K though I'd like to for that post.

I think that proper weightlifting/strength training is beneficial to boxers and fighters.

Look at the other sports right now like football, basketball, wrestling, etc.
They all utilize weight training to improve in their respective sports.

I think that the problem with boxing coaches nowadays is that their guiding principles in training is rooted in tradition. They are right in saying that there were a lot of great boxing champions before who never even touched a barbell. But what if they did? I think that they would have even enhanced their existing skills.

Fighting is like one big jigsaw puzzle. Skill training is one of the pieces, and strength training is another piece. You cannot expect to be a complete fighter if you're going to neglect one of the components.