It seems that I either have to stick to weightlifting or cardio. Seems that they both almost cancel out eachother. If I want to start boxing, how do I know how to distribute time spent on cardio versus time of weightlifting?

well sparing and punching the heavybag will do more for your power than lifting weights but it will also do alot for your cardio, possibly more than running i would personally say weights but thats probably because i love the weights!

i dont see any reason wy you cant do both!

I do not currently own a punching bag but will buy one after I take lessons and get a good technique. So it wouldn't be a waste to combine cardio with weightlifting?

:stupid: What he said. You should do both.

I just had my first fight, and I am a firm believer in compound lifts and punishing amounts of daily cardio for boxing conditioning. This is in addition to actual boxing training, of course.

Massive amounts of daily cardio does inhibit bodybuilding-type gains from weightlifting; but bodybuilding routines like you see in muscle mags pretty much won't help you for **** in boxing. Cardio and strength training -- meaning compound Olympic lifts like cleans, snatches, squats, and deadlifts -- work great together. And, when coupled with boxing training, they will help your boxing.

I do not currently own a punching bag but will buy one after I take lessons and get a good technique. So it wouldn't be a waste to combine cardio with weightlifting?



Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano didn't need to do weightlifting, so then, why do you? Good old fashioned boxing training will get you fit enough and strong enough for boxing.

Jack Dempsey worked for a living. I'll put an early-20th Century logger against a modern day office worker any day of the week. Marciano was already a professional athlete.

Potatoes must be allergic to iron.

EDIT: The guy who gave me the shiner and busted nose in my avatar is a powerlifter who boxes once a week to "stay cut." He couldn't box too well but he could hit like a mother****er. Those bruises are from having my glove pounded into my face for three rounds -- technically, he landed very few punches -- and my nose was broken by my headgear getting knocked sideways. So Potatoes, do me a favor: go three rounds with a powerlifter, and then convince me that weightlifting doesn't make you more able to hit hard.

Weightlifting may not increase your boxing skills, but the right exercises on the weight pile will sure as **** make you hit better. Which is, well, kind of important. His hitting ability alone could have cost me the damned fight -- I sincerely believe I was only one glaring mistake away from Canvas City the whole time.

Jack Dempsey worked for a living. I'll put an early-20th Century logger against a modern day office worker any day of the week. Marciano was already a professional athlete.

Potatoes must be allergic to iron.

EDIT: The guy who gave me the shiner and busted nose in my avatar is a powerlifter who boxes once a week to "stay cut." He couldn't box too well but he could hit like a mother****er. Those bruises are from having my glove pounded into my face for three rounds -- technically, he landed very few punches -- and my nose was broken by my headgear getting knocked sideways. So Potatoes, do me a favor: go three rounds with a powerlifter, and then convince me that weightlifting doesn't make you more able to hit hard.

Weightlifting may not increase your boxing skills, but the right exercises on the weight pile will sure as **** make you hit better. Which is, well, kind of important. His hitting ability alone could have cost me the damned fight -- I sincerely believe I was only one glaring mistake away from Canvas City the whole time.


you should of been ducking and weaving dude( chris tucker off "Friday"), powerlifters slow as hell and got no endurance, try sparring a seasoned pro-heavyweight ( a few classes above a dopey powerlifter), then u wouldnt even show ur avatar, all u would need is a black and blue avatar, cos dats what ur face would be looking.

you should of been ducking and weaving dude( chris tucker off "Friday"), powerlifters slow as hell and got no endurance, try sparring a seasoned pro-heavyweight ( a few classes above a dopey powerlifter), then u wouldnt even show ur avatar, all u would need is a black and blue avatar, cos dats what ur face would be looking.

bodybuilder tend to be slow, powerlifters on the other hand tends to be very explosive

bodybuilder tend to be slow, powerlifters on the other hand tends to be very explosive

:fing02: He was NOT slow. It was like fighting off a pit bull.

The whole "weights make you slow" myth rears its cross-eyed, drooling head yet again.

:omfg: :peeright: Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano didn't need to do weightlifting, so then, why do you? Good old fashioned boxing training will get you fit enough and strong enough for boxing.:omfg:

YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THE BOOK :smashfrea

TRUTH IS NATURAL STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING WILL ONLY GET YOU IN THE DOOR NOW A DAYS. IF THAT. YOU NEED TO STRENGTH TRAIN. YOU NEED IT. AND REMEMBER YOUR NOT DOING THIS IN THE SAME MANNER AS A BODY BUILDER. SO TO EMPHASIZE WEIGHLIFTING ALONE WOULDN'T BE THE CORRECT WAY TO GO ABOUT IT EITHER. BUT STRENGTH TRAINING IS AS EVERYBODY EVEN POTATOES HAS TO ADMIT ESSENTIALY RESISTANCE TRAINING. "WEIGHTS ARE MADE JUST FOR THAT" YOUR CARDIO, WHOEVER SAID YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME COMBINING THE TWO IS AN IDIOT. YOU NEED THEM BOTH. ALL ATHLETES WHO DEPEND ON POWER AND ENDURANCE DO. FOOTBALL, WRESTLING FOR EXAMPLE. DEPEND ON SOME OF THE SAME ATRIBUTES THAT BOXERS DO POWER, SPEED AND ENDURANCE. MY ADVICE DO SOME RESEARCH ON TRAINING FOR POWER LIFTERS, FOOTBALL PLAYERS, AND WRESTLERS. "AS WELL AS BOXING" YOU GET A GOOD CARDIO WORKOUT WHILE TRAINING, BUT DON'T LIMIT YOURSELF TO THAT ALONE. DO SOME INTENSE INTERVAL TRAINING. "SOMTHING LIKE WINDSPRINTS." OR EVEN A 3-4 MILE RUN USING A 3 MIN OF SPRINTS FOLLOWED BY 1MIN OF JOGGING. IS AN EXCELLENT WAY TO GET THE WORK TO REST RATIO OF A BOXING MATCH. DO SOME RESEARCH AND MIX IT UP DON'T FOCUS TOO MUCH ON THE WEIGHTS AND WHEN YOU DO USE THEM MAKE SURE ITS COMPOUND MOVEMENTS, FOCUSED ON YOUR BODIES CORE, AND LEGS.

bodybuilder tend to be slow, powerlifters on the other hand tends to be very explosive

FOR REAL!! WHEN THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO GET THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BODY BUILDING. "FOR LOOKS" AND POWER LIFTING " FOR STRENGTH AND ENDURANCE"???? YOU ALL HAVE THEORIES, OR IS THAT JUST YOUR ASS TALKING TO HEAR ITSELF. HAVE YOU ACTUALLY LOOKED IN A BOOK "NOT MAGAZINE" OR DID ANY TYPE OF RESEARCH REGARDING THE IMPROVEMENT OF STRENGTH IN THE HUMAN BODY? OR DO YOU JUST REHITERATE WHAT YOU HEARD SOMEBODY ELSE SAY? A POWER LIFTER IS JUST WHAT HIS TITLE INDICATES. A POWERFUL ATHLETE. HOW DO YOU GET POWER SPEED X MASS. NOW HOW WOULD THAT MORON FIGURE HIM TO BE SLOW?????

Boxers have been lifting weights since the 1970's and I have been watching them. All I have seen is a marked decrease in stamina, skill and no more knockouts that there were in previous decades. Weightlifting is grossly overrated.

What exactly is a power lifter?

both.......
they actually help each other out.

What exactly is a power lifter?

its a guy that trains for strength not to look good like body builders.

its a guy that trains for strength not to look good like body builders.

Well, more accurately, a powerlifter is an athlete who compete in the sport of powerlifting. Powerlifting consist of 3 major lifts: Bench press, squat, and deadlift.
To be able to compete in these, you have to train for strength. Since there's weight divisions, like boxing, lifters in the lower weight divisions don't want excessive muscle, so they're definitely training for strength, not muscle.

Boxers have been lifting weights since the 1970's and I have been watching them. All I have seen is a marked decrease in stamina, skill and no more knockouts that there were in previous decades. Weightlifting is grossly overrated.
true although i think larger gloves are a factor as far as knockouts go.

Have you considered the thought that maybe HIGHER skills bring down the number of knockouts? The better skilled you are, the better at avoiding a knockout punch you should be.

true although i think larger gloves are a factor as far as knockouts go.

THERE ARE A HANDFULL OF VARIABLES THAT MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE FIGHTERS AND THE ELITE ATHLETES THAT ARE IN THE RING TODAY. HAS WEIGHT LIFTING, OR OTHER FORMS OF STRENGTH TRAINING AFFECTED THE SPORT. YES IT HAS. BETTER ATHLETES ARE FASTER AND BETTER PREPARED TO HANDEL "THE ONCE GOLDEN TICKET TO STARDOM" NATURAL POWER. THIS IS SOMTHING POTATOES CAN NOT COMPREHEND. BUT HE STICKS TO HIS OPINION. I GUESS THATS A MARK OF CHARACTER.

true although i think larger gloves are a factor as far as knockouts go.


Larger gloves are just a way for reckless and irresponsible boxing commissions to pretend they are interested in safety. Knockouts come as a result of a concussion, and concussions happen because the head snaps back. Head gear nor gloves prevent prevent the head from snapping back. The best way to avoid knockouts is better defense. Learning good defense is a long, tedious and boring process. Pumping iron is much more fun, that is why these young guys are doing it. 30 years of weightlifting, and nobody can prove it has been of any benefit to boxers.

Larger gloves are just a way for reckless and irresponsible boxing commissions to pretend they are interested in safety. Knockouts come as a result of a concussion, and concussions happen because the head snaps back. Head gear nor gloves prevent prevent the head from snapping back. The best way to avoid knockouts is better defense. Learning good defense is a long, tedious and boring process. Pumping iron is much more fun, that is why these young guys are doing it. 30 years of weightlifting, and nobody can prove it has been of any benefit to boxers.

NOT TRUE NOBODY CAN PROVE IT TO YOU, BECAUSE YOUR MIND IS LIKE A DOLPHINS ASS CLOSED TIGHT. THE PERFORMANCE OF ATHLETES IN MANY DIFFERENT SPORTS NOT ONLY BOXING HAS IMPROVED AND BEEN PROVEN DUE TO TRAINING THAT INVOLVES WEIGHTS. FOCUS ONLY ON WEIGHTS WELL ANY IDIOT COULD SEE THAT AS NOT BEING BENIFICIAL. TOO BAD YOU FAIL TO GRASP THAT WE ATHLETES REALIZE THAT.
AND WHO SAYS DEFENSE IS BORING?? I'D MUCH RATHER BE AT A SLIP BALL, SPARING DEFENSE ONLY, OR AT A DOUBLE END BAG THAN GRITTING IT OUT AT THE IRON PILE. WHAT ****ING WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN?

All i do is cardio, with body weight exercises (hundreds of crunches/squats/pushups/variables of each)

I use weights in a circuit training-type regimen for conditioning.

weights can be good for boxers if using high reps and lighter weights. Boxing is about speed and endurance.

Every bodybuilder type that I fought I had little trouble with. Sure when they would hit you they had power but the thing was that they were slow and generally unable to touch me. Aswell, they seemed to be gassed just when the fight was starting to heat up.

If you cant hit it than you cant hurt it. Weightlifters are generally tight and slow.

If you train for explosive power then your muscles cant be conditioned for endurance, which is a HUGE part of fighting.

If you wanna box I would stick with cardio and the traditional exercises of the fighters.

Rockin' :boxing: