View Full Version : for those who think the fix was in......
deuce_drop 09-20-2004, 03:06 AM 1) you have no clue what so ever!
2) DLH, if he would have won the fight, he would be one of the greatest fighters in the history of the game.
3) if DLH would have won on the cards, none of you would be saying FIXED FIGHT!
4) if DLH won, he would have a HUGE!! payday coming up, if tito beats mayorga. maybe one of the biggest in history. why would DLH give that up...especially fighting in vegas, when he knows he has a chance with some of the judges.... ( two out of the three judges, judge some of his other fights before( all in his favor). it's not a lock! ( i know mosely 2.... "i thought he lost, i was there ringside")but he still would have a chance though....
why would he give all that up and lay down.. that was a crippling bodyshot and not one of you hater's could take that shot. hopkins put down a ass whooping and dlh took it like a man!
give the undisputed champ his credit, or just shut up!
Winter 09-20-2004, 03:58 AM Fixed fights have happened before. You make it sound it has never happened before, and it will never happen again. Maybe Oscar De La Hoya has been promised something that will help his boxing company. Perhaps he was threatened. It has happened before. It did not look normal what happened to Oscar De La Hoya.
grayfist 09-20-2004, 04:47 AM You can call me whatever, but the controversy surrounding De la Hoya-Hopkins is one that I'm grateful for: it adds more grist to these pages' opinion mill! In a few hours time, posts/threads will be white heat!!! :D :D :D !!!
Dr Cynical 09-20-2004, 04:49 AM You can call whatever, but the controversy surrounding De la Hoya-Hopkins is one that I'm grateful for: it adds more grist to these pages' opinion mill! In a few hours time, posts/threads will be white heat!!! :D :D :D !!!
lol You just can't wait till these forums are like the old ones.
Flames flying everywhere.
I have to admit, I'm a bit of the same.
It's what made these forums really entertaining.
Not to say they aren't now, the flames will just add to it. :)
grayfist 09-20-2004, 04:51 AM lol You just can't wait till these forums are like the old ones.
Flames flying everywhere.
I have to admit, I'm a bit of the same.
It's what made these forums really entertaining.
Not to say they aren't now, the flames will just add to it. :) :D :D :D !!!
Dr Cynical 09-20-2004, 04:53 AM :D :D :D !!!
lol Just wait till Evosbm starts another Pro-Manny/Mexican chickens thread.
It will be just like the old forum. :p
grayfist 09-20-2004, 04:55 AM lol Just wait till Evosbm starts another Pro-Manny/Mexican chickens thread.
It will be just like the old forum. :pDon't tell anyone, but I can hardly wait for the guy to come up! Where is he anyway? :D
Dr Cynical 09-20-2004, 04:56 AM Don't tell anyone, but I can hardly wait for the guy to come up! Where is he anyway? :D
lol No idea.
I want him to hurry up and make a thread like that.
It always generates alot of comments.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 09-20-2004, 04:57 AM Maybe not a fix, but it looked like he panicked and took the easiest way out.
I hope he retires.
grayfist 09-20-2004, 05:05 AM lol No idea.
I want him to hurry up and make a thread like that.
It always generates alot of comments.Evo--the Roy Jones, Hopkins, Morales, Pacquiao, Barrera, et al (combined) of and premier generator/supplier of chicken...threads/posts! :D Undisputed!?! :D Hall of Famer?! :D! Does he own KFC?!
Palma 09-20-2004, 05:18 AM "The fight was fixed", "Oscar took the easy way out". I cannot believe what I am hearing here. You people are a bunch of Conspirocy maniacs! :eek: Bernard hit him a with a body shot that would have flatten anyone. Great fight and it'll be an even rematch when it takes place. As for Oscar taking the "easy" way out. :confused: All throughout his career this man has strived to be the best in his sport. This is a true champion and there is no way in hell he'd ***** out like that.
spinksjinx 09-20-2004, 07:10 AM Fixed fights have happened before. You make it sound it has never happened before, and it will never happen again. Maybe Oscar De La Hoya has been promised something that will help his boxing company. Perhaps he was threatened. It has happened before. It did not look normal what happened to Oscar De La Hoya.
Who would he be threatned by? Hopkins has no promoter so their would be no don king or anything like that as an influence and fixed fights/bribery/threats are no hopkins style.....I know Arum is representing hopkins now, but Oscar is the bigger name and holds no real incentive for arum to threaten DLH...Although I did see before the dlh/hopkins fight that guy from the nevada state athletic commission, came out and talked to arum and the guy left and when arum got rocked and knocked down arum sat their with a smile on his face....
So many theories, but a lot are forgetting that hopkins was the bigger/stronger/better boxer....No shame on De la hoya for it.
NichtGeflechten 09-20-2004, 07:22 AM You can't have a conspiracy of one. Anyone will give up under certain types of duress.....I don't think the fight was fixed. I DO think DLH took a dive, not in the classic sense of the word but he definitely hammed it up and removed any further risk to his face. I am glad he gave up...he could have tried to turn it into a track meet for 3.5 rounds ALA' the Trinidad fight and I would have been out 2 dimes.
spinksjinx 09-20-2004, 08:02 AM I dont dispute your theory either, that dlh knew he was in for a beating and quit. It is hard to fathom but it isnt unlikely although it isnt oscars style to lay down..Run yes but not lay down....The delayed reaction is what makes me wonder and it not being a clear shot with that much power, Although I never took a shot like that and cant really comment on it....
Also I dont know why so many people are throwing a fit and making all of these accusations as just a week or so ago the general feeling was that DLH was going to get murdered. Just because hopkins didnt land a combination to oscars chin this raises questions...Hell if hopkins did knock out de la hoya from rocking him on the chin, I would question that as De La Hoya has a rock hard granite super titanium steel chin....
I believe their is nothing to dispute and oscar got hit by a brutal shot and that if he did quit it wasnt because of anyone backstage but rather him knowing he bite off way more then he can chew...He took his defeat like a man and showed no concerns for shame towards him....
Thumbs up oscar
Thumbs up Bernard
Dark Destroyer 09-20-2004, 08:09 AM "The fight was fixed", "Oscar took the easy way out". I cannot believe what I am hearing here. You people are a bunch of Conspirocy maniacs! :eek: Bernard hit him a with a body shot that would have flatten anyone. Great fight and it'll be an even rematch when it takes place. As for Oscar taking the "easy" way out. :confused: All throughout his career this man has strived to be the best in his sport. This is a true champion and there is no way in hell he'd ***** out like that.
:) I agree completely, he was genuinely hurt by that punch. Anyone saying it's fixed is a pretty nieve insult to throw, if you have eye's and common sense you will see it was not fixed.
NichtGeflechten 09-20-2004, 08:58 AM It looked melodramatic to me....watch Oscar on his walk out of the venue...carefully.
Dark Destroyer 09-20-2004, 09:16 AM It looked melodramatic to me....watch Oscar on his walk out of the venue...carefully.
What do you mean?
NichtGeflechten 09-20-2004, 09:18 AM I dont dispute your theory either, that dlh knew he was in for a beating and quit. It is hard to fathom but it isnt unlikely although it isnt oscars style to lay down
It's not hard to fathom BECAUSE EVEN DLH HIMSELF REPEATEDLY SAID THAT HE WAS ATTEMPTING TO DO THE IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!
grayfist 09-20-2004, 09:42 AM It's not hard to fathom BECAUSE EVEN DLH HIMSELF REPEATEDLY SAID THAT HE WAS ATTEMPTING TO DO THE IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!What does one call a guy who tries to do what he knows to be impossible? A hero? A nut? A nut of a hero? A hero of a nut? ....? :)
bigdlb12 09-20-2004, 11:07 AM does anybody have the fight on tape or dvd?, go back to the 9th round about 30 secs b4 the KO, you can hear someone yelling out BodyShot over and over again, atleast a good 5 times as if telling either fighter get ready. I hope that the fight wasnt fixed and hope that if a rematch takes place that Oscar is'nt given the win for having hopkins in a huge favorite towards Odds. The way that Vegas makes money. I knew that Hopkins could not KO DLH by hitting him on the chin I never though that he could do it with a bodyshot.The shot did not look like much but then again it was right on the liver. Grap your hand and punch that side Soft you can feel it if you hit it in the right place so a shot from a true middle weight can do the trick.
I dont know boxing
Dark Destroyer 09-20-2004, 11:11 AM does anybody have the fight on tape or dvd?, go back to the 9th round about 30 secs b4 the KO, you can hear someone yelling out BodyShot over and over again, atleast a good 5 times as if telling either fighter get ready. I hope that the fight wasnt fixed and hope that if a rematch takes place that Oscar is'nt given the win for having hopkins in a huge favorite towards Odds. The way that Vegas makes money. I knew that Hopkins could not KO DLH by hitting him on the chin I never though that he could do it with a bodyshot.The shot did not look like much but then again it was right on the liver. Grap your hand and punch that side Soft you can feel it if you hit it in the right place so a shot from a true middle weight can do the trick.
I dont know boxing
I have it on DVD. I heard someone shouting "Bodyshot" several times, it sounded like Mayweather. :confused:
bigdlb12 09-20-2004, 11:14 AM whats up WEZ I cam ein here b4 the fight but there was nobody on, I think the new passwords screwed everything up, hey what happen to our money?
Dark Destroyer 09-20-2004, 11:18 AM whats up WEZ I cam ein here b4 the fight but there was nobody on, I think the new passwords screwed everything up, hey what happen to our money?
Hey i have no idea what happened to the money at all. I think now we have points it's all gone, we have to start all over. But now we have our own bank accounts and boxingscene store to alter our own accounts and stuff.
bigdlb12 09-20-2004, 11:26 AM sounds good, I owed P4p 50k and Jack the rippa 10k ,O'well ,lol there is no way I can pay anyone now
Explosivo 09-20-2004, 11:28 AM Hey i have no idea what happened to the money at all. I think now we have points it's all gone, we have to start all over. But now we have our own bank accounts and boxingscene store to alter our own accounts and stuff.
I tried to meet up too and found only Dr. Cynical in a chat room.
Wez, I was all for DLH in the fight, I just thought his going out from that not even flush body shot looked pretty weak especially when I had him winning the fight on the cards.
How did you guys have the fight scored?
spinksjinx 09-20-2004, 11:50 AM That was definatly mayweather yelling, all through the other rounds you could hear him screaming to oscar as well, No conspiracy their trust me. He was jabbing his jaws all through the fight!
Here is my scorecard
the top is with sound
the bottom is without sound
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/spinksjinx/scorecard.jpg
bigdlb12 09-20-2004, 03:14 PM I tried to meet up too and found only Dr. Cynical in a chat room.
Wez, I was all for DLH in the fight, I just thought his going out from that not even flush body shot looked pretty weak especially when I had him winning the fight on the cards.
How did you guys have the fight scored?
Well to be honest I had the fight 76-76 going into the 9th,rounds 3,5,7 & 8 for Hopkins and rounds 1,2,4 & 6 for DLH, tied going into the 9th for me, when DLH went down my wife and her friends were just walking in the door and they asked "Oh are they still fighting?" not a second later down goes DLH, I didnt get to see the shot live but I was hoping it was a low blow, by the way he seem to be in pain, hell the reff dint even know, he looked back to see if it was a clean shot. I blame my wife for the loss of DLH
Explosivo 09-20-2004, 03:28 PM Well to be honest I had the fight 76-76 going into the 9th,rounds 3,5,7 & 8 for Hopkins and rounds 1,2,4 & 6 for DLH, tied going into the 9th for me, when DLH went down my wife and her friends were just walking in the door and they asked "Oh are they still fighting?" not a second later down goes DLH, I didnt get to see the shot live but I was hoping it was a low blow, by the way he seem to be in pain, hell the reff dint even know, he looked back to see if it was a clean shot. I blame my wife for the loss of DLH
Whos that troll in your avatar?
bigdlb12 09-20-2004, 03:31 PM Whos that troll in your avatar? people's champ, well asain people, Manny Pacman, I guess he is alittle big head now that he thinks he can beat the world,lol
m00ks 09-20-2004, 03:53 PM people's champ, well asain people, Manny Pacman, I guess he is alittle big head now that he thinks he can beat the world,lol
Just the mexican featherweights, that's it. It's not THAT hard lol :D That is...assuming Manny catches them :D
bigdlb12 09-20-2004, 04:09 PM you like that right?
m00ks 09-20-2004, 04:27 PM Do I like that? Or am I like that?
bigdlb12 09-20-2004, 04:43 PM the big head manny
m00ks 09-20-2004, 05:52 PM the big head manny
It ain't bad, but mine's twice as good :cool:
PrettyBoyFloyd7 08-15-2008, 12:48 PM 1) you have no clue what so ever!
2) DLH, if he would have won the fight, he would be one of the greatest fighters in the history of the game.
3) if DLH would have won on the cards, none of you would be saying FIXED FIGHT!
4) if DLH won, he would have a HUGE!! payday coming up, if tito beats mayorga. maybe one of the biggest in history. why would DLH give that up...especially fighting in vegas, when he knows he has a chance with some of the judges.... ( two out of the three judges, judge some of his other fights before( all in his favor). it's not a lock! ( i know mosely 2.... "i thought he lost, i was there ringside")but he still would have a chance though....
why would he give all that up and lay down.. that was a crippling bodyshot and not one of you hater's could take that shot. hopkins put down a ass whooping and dlh took it like a man!
give the undisputed champ his credit, or just shut up!
just figure Id bump the oldest thread in this section
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