Mirko filipovic
Defeated barnett and wanderlei silva.

It's mirko's best career achievement as a fighter.
(in both mma and kickboxing).

The guy has been training his ass off since 2001!!!
and finally... all his years of training paid off.
5 years later.
He is "the" champ.

Fedor Emelianenko is obviously , still #1
But Mirko is now ranked at the 2nd spot

Mirko is not just a mere kickboxer with a good sprawl anymore.
years of wrestling and bjj training helped him to become what he is today.
he did a fantastic job.

He did do a great job, and he implemented a perfect fight plan.

Not taking anything away from Cro Cop's victory at all, but I feel Silva would've been better at around 205-210 region instead of the 225+ at the time of weigh in.

silva got ****ED up. Bet Dana is anxious to get him signed for a liddell bout after that asswhooping he took today

also he still wont beat Fedor IMO. Probably would be a close decision fight but i just cant see him beating Emanilenko. he just has no visible flaws whatsoever right now

CroCop going to the ground for some points? This version of CroCop would give Fedor a lot more than the first fight. And especially with Fedor's inactivity. But I would probably still go with Fedor via split dicision. And I could actually see their rematch on PRIDE's second [or third] show in the US.

Congrats Mirko.

.aZF

lols! All those stupids who said Silva was this and that..... lols!!!

Crocop beat his ass.

Let's use common sense dudes.

If Mirko can beat Silva thoroughly under Pride rules wherein stomping, more brutal ground and pound strikes, less ref intervention and no cage to fend off sprawls...

How the chance in hell can Silva beat Liddell under UFC rules. lols!

Isn't he now the interim heavyweight champion, while Fedor is the heavyweight champion, and they will fight to unify at New Year event?

Isn't he now the interim heavyweight champion, while Fedor is the heavyweight champion, and they will fight to unify at New Year event?
Not to my knowledge.

He is just the #1 contender now.

It seems things got all quiet here. lols!

Anyone of you say still that Silva beats liddell in UFC under UFC rules? lols!

Saw the fight and man! Silva got beat so bad and Mirko just toyed with him and picked him apart and basically all Silva can do is get his face bloodied and fall like a log.

To think this is Pride under Pride rules.

I'd shudder to think what Liddel will do to him under UFC rules.

It seems things got all quiet here. lols!

Anyone of you say still that Silva beats liddell in UFC under UFC rules? lols!

Saw the fight and man! Silva got beat so bad and Mirko just toyed with him and picked him apart and basically all Silva can do is get his face bloodied and fall like a log.

To think this is Pride under Pride rules.

I'd shudder to think what Liddel will do to him under UFC rules.

not too much difference in terms of rules that would affect that bout in particular. Only thing Silva couldnt do to Chuck is knee him in the head or soccer kick him. i dont think Chuck has Mirko style power so he would be in for a hell of a fight from what is a slightly diminished vanderlei. not beating one of the best heavys in the world is a lot different from challenging a guy like liddell who is in silva's natural weight class

not too much difference in terms of rules that would affect that bout in particular. Only thing Silva couldnt do to Chuck is knee him in the head or soccer kick him. i dont think Chuck has Mirko style power so he would be in for a hell of a fight from what is a slightly diminished vanderlei. not beating one of the best heavys in the world is a lot different from challenging a guy like liddell who is in silva's natural weight class
He doesn't have Cro Cop hand power, but his hands are devastating and thats more then enough.

Also, it's not fair to compare Cro Cop's style to Liddell's. With that said, like I've always said, Silva is a wild stricker who has a bad habit of getting sloppy especially after he wings 3 or more punches. This style would play right into Liddell's style.

Styles make fights people, and Chuck has a taylor made style to beat him.

looks like we got mad PRIDE fans hear. thats kewl. now i actually got some peeps to discuss **** with now.

looks like we got mad PRIDE fans hear. thats kewl. now i actually got some peeps to discuss **** with now.
I haven't missed a single Pride event since 2000, and 93' for UFC.

MMA is ****ing great.

not too much difference in terms of rules that would affect that bout in particular. Only thing Silva couldnt do to Chuck is knee him in the head or soccer kick him. i dont think Chuck has Mirko style power so he would be in for a hell of a fight from what is a slightly diminished vanderlei. not beating one of the best heavys in the world is a lot different from challenging a guy like liddell who is in silva's natural weight class


Dream on.

That's what stupid SIlva fans said a while ago. That Liddell was this and that and that Silva is the ****.

There is a ton of difference in Pride and UFC.

Once Silva's in the UFC he gets beat bad and worse than what Crocop did to him. Why?

UFC rules favor strikers and frequently breakup ground and pound styles. With Silva's undisciplined stance, mediocre striking skills, he will get his ass handed to him.

Total Silva fans ownage on this one.

No wonder those silva fans are all crying mama.

Dream on.

That's what stupid SIlva fans said a while ago. That Liddell was this and that and that Silva is the ****.

There is a ton of difference in Pride and UFC.

Once Silva's in the UFC he gets beat bad and worse than what Crocop did to him. Why?

UFC rules favor strikers and frequently breakup ground and pound styles. With Silva's undisciplined stance, mediocre striking skills, he will get his ass handed to him.

Total Silva fans ownage on this one.

No wonder those silva fans are all crying mama.It could be argued that Pride actually favors strikers, as they stand up alot of fighters for "laying and praying" so they keep the action going. There are many many clinches along the ropes where I understand that they are fighting for position and it's purely tactical along side the cage.

Those are some of the reasons why I love that there are 2 powerful orgs out there with different sets of rules and different fighters.

Dream on.

That's what stupid SIlva fans said a while ago. That Liddell was this and that and that Silva is the ****.

There is a ton of difference in Pride and UFC.

Once Silva's in the UFC he gets beat bad and worse than what Crocop did to him. Why?

UFC rules favor strikers and frequently breakup ground and pound styles. With Silva's undisciplined stance, mediocre striking skills, he will get his ass handed to him.

Total Silva fans ownage on this one.

No wonder those silva fans are all crying mama.To discredit Silva for losing to Cro Cop while he was fighting at over 23lbs his normal fighting weight, is totally insane.

Like I've said all along, I'd pick Liddell in a potential match-up, pre cro cop.

Liddell would get killed by Wanderlei.
There's a huge mother ****ing difference between a guy like Mirko and Chuck Liddell.. Huge.

Liddell was basically jackson's "can" , last time he tried to participate in one of those grand prix competitions.

http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/liddell/video/x68cu_chuck-liddell-vs-quinton-jackson

Crocop's striking also has little in common with chuck's.
& Crocop is a natural HW.

Yeah , styles make fights. Maybe Chuck Liddell could be a bad match up for Silva.
But I doubt it cause Liddell's striking is wild , Liddell has the KO power behind his shots but He's not as accurate as Crocop. And certainly not as fast.

And no one knows how Chuck would do vs someone like silva on the ground. Liddell never had to fight a guy who keeps bombarding knee strikes like a maniac during the clinch. (muay thai clinch).

Crocop beating Silva doesn't really mean anything. Because Liddell is a totally different fighter.

Do we even need to talk about the kicks?
Crocop is miles ahead in that department.

If anything..Silva's fight vs crocop demonstrated that Silva is a tuff mother ****er. He received one hell of a beating and he kept on coming.
Crocop had to finish him with a Highkick.

I seriously doubt Silva would be ****ing stupid enough to copy Sobral's gameplan. or Horn's....
People are so used to see Chuck dominating all the time that they've lost touch with reality imo.

Chuck Liddell is the big fish in the small pond.
Whatever He's worth. He's stuck in the ufc.
And never had to fight the likes of Arona or Rogerio etc...

Last time we saw him in Pride , He was outclassed by Overeem.
Overeem was beating the **** out of him and the only reason why chuck won was because Alistair ****in Overeem had no gas tank left.. He sabotaged his own ****ing chances to win.

If Overeem had silva's stamina he would've owned Liddell too.
without even having to fight Jackson.

That's the way I see it.
Maybe Chuck would finish Silva.. Maybe not.
But the point is..
Silva would have way more chances on his side. (he's more complete as a fighter)

and his brutal loss vs Mirko means nothing. He's a ****ing HW! That's his natural weight.

Who is on the fight card besides the 3 main events? Is it worth purchasing the replay on saturday.

Liddell would get killed by Wanderlei.
There's a huge mother ****ing difference between a guy like Mirko and Chuck Liddell.. Huge.

Liddell was basically jackson's "can" , last time he tried to participate in one of those grand prix competitions.

http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/liddell/video/x68cu_chuck-liddell-vs-quinton-jackson

Crocop's striking also has little in common with chuck's.
& Crocop is a natural HW.

Yeah , styles make fights. Maybe Chuck Liddell could be a bad match up for Silva.
But I doubt it cause Liddell's striking is wild , Liddell has the KO power behind his shots but He's not as accurate as Crocop. And certainly not as fast.

And no one knows how Chuck would do vs someone like silva on the ground. Liddell never had to fight a guy who keeps bombarding knee strikes like a maniac during the clinch. (muay thai clinch).

Crocop beating Silva doesn't really mean anything. Because Liddell is a totally different fighter.

Do we even need to talk about the kicks?
Crocop is miles ahead in that department.

If anything..Silva's fight vs crocop demonstrated that Silva is a tuff mother ****er. He received one hell of a beating and he kept on coming.
Crocop had to finish him with a Highkick.

I seriously doubt Silva would be ****ing stupid enough to copy Sobral's gameplan. or Horn's....
People are so used to see Chuck dominating all the time that they've lost touch with reality imo.

Chuck Liddell is the big fish in the small pond.
Whatever He's worth. He's stuck in the ufc.
And never had to fight the likes of Arona or Rogerio etc...

Last time we saw him in Pride , He was outclassed by Overeem.
Overeem was beating the **** out of him and the only reason why chuck won was because Alistair ****in Overeem had no gas tank left.. He sabotaged his own ****ing chances to win.

If Overeem had silva's stamina he would've owned Liddell too.
without even having to fight Jackson.

That's the way I see it.
Maybe Chuck would finish Silva.. Maybe not.
But the point is..
Silva would have way more chances on his side. (he's more complete as a fighter)

and his brutal loss vs Mirko means nothing. He's a ****ing HW! That's his natural weight.
All you do is offer half-truths and opinions.

Find somebody to beat him, until then he is your GOD.

Liddell would get killed by Wanderlei.
There's a huge mother ****ing difference between a guy like Mirko and Chuck Liddell.. Huge.

Liddell was basically jackson's "can" , last time he tried to participate in one of those grand prix competitions.

http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/liddell/video/x68cu_chuck-liddell-vs-quinton-jackson

Crocop's striking also has little in common with chuck's.
& Crocop is a natural HW.

Yeah , styles make fights. Maybe Chuck Liddell could be a bad match up for Silva.
But I doubt it cause Liddell's striking is wild , Liddell has the KO power behind his shots but He's not as accurate as Crocop. And certainly not as fast.

And no one knows how Chuck would do vs someone like silva on the ground. Liddell never had to fight a guy who keeps bombarding knee strikes like a maniac during the clinch. (muay thai clinch).

Crocop beating Silva doesn't really mean anything. Because Liddell is a totally different fighter.

Do we even need to talk about the kicks?
Crocop is miles ahead in that department.

If anything..Silva's fight vs crocop demonstrated that Silva is a tuff mother ****er. He received one hell of a beating and he kept on coming.
Crocop had to finish him with a Highkick.

I seriously doubt Silva would be ****ing stupid enough to copy Sobral's gameplan. or Horn's....
People are so used to see Chuck dominating all the time that they've lost touch with reality imo.

Chuck Liddell is the big fish in the small pond.
Whatever He's worth. He's stuck in the ufc.
And never had to fight the likes of Arona or Rogerio etc...

Last time we saw him in Pride , He was outclassed by Overeem.
Overeem was beating the **** out of him and the only reason why chuck won was because Alistair ****in Overeem had no gas tank left.. He sabotaged his own ****ing chances to win.

If Overeem had silva's stamina he would've owned Liddell too.
without even having to fight Jackson.

That's the way I see it.
Maybe Chuck would finish Silva.. Maybe not.
But the point is..
Silva would have way more chances on his side. (he's more complete as a fighter)

and his brutal loss vs Mirko means nothing. He's a ****ing HW! That's his natural weight.

Blabber all you want.

But Silva has been exposed as a mediocre striker. lols!

I'd shiver to think what Liddell will do to him under UFC rules.

As for the saying that Silva is more complete as a fighter.

I saw the fight and how can a "complete" fighter like SIlva be taken to school like that by a kickboxer in Mirko? lols!

Liddell is more cautious and harder to hit than Mirko. Mirko may have the faster feet but Liddell's accuracy and defensive boxing skills are impeccable.

Against SIlva's undisciplined stance, he's deadmeat.

Silva fans has got to be crying mama out loud now.

Where have all the SIlva fans go??? :D

All you do is offer half-truths and opinions.

Find somebody to beat him, until then he is your GOD.
it's obvious you guys are in total denial.

Blabber all you want.

But Silva has been exposed as a mediocre striker. lols!

I'd shiver to think what Liddell will do to him under UFC rules.

As for the saying that Silva is more complete as a fighter.

I saw the fight and how can a "complete" fighter like SIlva be taken to school like that by a kickboxer in Mirko? lols!

Liddell is more cautious and harder to hit than Mirko. Mirko may have the faster feet but Liddell's accuracy and defensive boxing skills are impeccable.

Against SIlva's undisciplined stance, he's deadmeat.

Silva fans has got to be crying mama out loud now.

Where have all the SIlva fans go??? :D

Well , silva sure ain't a boxer. But that wouldn't change a thing vs Liddell. that guy would get killed in the muay thai clinch.

And YES , silva is a more complete fighter.
Liddell on the ground would be reduced as a mere can vs Silva.
Liddell avoids the ground like the plague because His only skills are based around wrestling , and his wrestling skills aren't even good enough to be dominant too.

and what do you mean by "kickboxer"?
Are you an idiot?
Mirko is more than a kickboxer you fool!
He's been training mma since 2001.
Wake the **** up!

The guy was dominating barnett on the ground and barnett is a world class wrestler.
Crocop has been training in bjj, judo and wrestling during all these years.

which is why there was a huge ****ing difference between his first fight and his rematch vs silva.
Becuause he wasn't scared of the ground anymore.

You people are in serious denial.
Forget Silva..

Chuck would be rogerio and arona's can.

it's obvious you guys are in total denial.

Total denial? Lols!

Are you talking to yourself? :D

I saw the fight and it was not as bad as some of you guys are making it out to be. Mirko is a more calm and disciplined fighter. Silva is the type of guy that overwhelms and disheartens fighters. I think if Chuck remains calm and recognizes Silva's game plan he can do some damage but Silva can overwhelm Chuck and put a pounding on him. Either way the fight is not happening, so **** it. Chuck is a strong person and I think Chuck needs to challenge himself more to show more of his skills.

It seems things got all quiet here. lols!

Anyone of you say still that Silva beats liddell in UFC under UFC rules? lols!

Saw the fight and man! Silva got beat so bad and Mirko just toyed with him and picked him apart and basically all Silva can do is get his face bloodied and fall like a log.

To think this is Pride under Pride rules.

I'd shudder to think what Liddel will do to him under UFC rules.

Liddell isnt half the striker CroCop is...it will be a much closer fight than you think.

Blabber all you want.

But Silva has been exposed as a mediocre striker. lols!

I'd shiver to think what Liddell will do to him under UFC rules.

As for the saying that Silva is more complete as a fighter.

I saw the fight and how can a "complete" fighter like SIlva be taken to school like that by a kickboxer in Mirko? lols!

Liddell is more cautious and harder to hit than Mirko. Mirko may have the faster feet but Liddell's accuracy and defensive boxing skills are impeccable.

Against SIlva's undisciplined stance, he's deadmeat.

Silva fans has got to be crying mama out loud now.

Where have all the SIlva fans go??? :D

How ****in old are you...twelve?. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE **** YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, lmfao seriously you sound like this was the first MMA event you've seen. LOL @ you totally talking down Silva's skills and history just because he went up a weight-class to fight the second best heavyweight fighter in the world...I know this man-love you have for Liddell is clouding your thought process. I bet you watch MMA just to see sweating, half-naked guys on the canvas "ground and pound" each other...

Lesson: dont be a biased mutha****a like this idiot, we all have someone we are rooting for but dont be like this ***.

I wanted to see cro-cop fedor2.. Wathced the first fight lastnight just cause i was bored and I truly think if mirko comes out with no fear he does have the tools to take fedor.. The first fight looked like he gassed quick and got hit hard to many times.. Fedor pure intimidated and over powered him, this is where a solid technical game plan would be a good thing for cro-cop.

If he beats fedor, I declare an instant fight with minotauro.. I want to see him hold the belt..

which event card did they fight on?

Final conflict 2005. Great fight card, as stated in a previous thread, 2005 was the best year for pride to date IMO

I was trying to search for the Silva/CroCop fight and found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MRVbFSTS04

Never heard of this guy before. But Crocop got CAUGHT COLD! Must be an old fight.

I was trying to search for the Silva/CroCop fight and found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MRVbFSTS04

Never heard of this guy before. But Crocop got CAUGHT COLD! Must be an old fight.

Yah man that's more than a few years old, when he was still with K1. so before 2000/2001.

The guy that caught him was one of the best at the time.

Did he retire, Michael McDonald? Solid Boxing skills and did he ever go to Pride?

I had no idea CroCop has been fighting this long. As you can tell, I'm a post fight MMA fan (coz I'm too cheap to order the fights). :D

LOOL can't blame yah, it gets expensive trying to keep up to date in this sport.

Yeah. Forty ****ing dollars a PPV is ****.