Well there's a lot of myths but how bad is coffee really for you? I have a job where I have to be up pretty early in the morning and I try not to have coffee before I work but without it, my mornings are hell. Is coffee really that bad and IF it is, is there anything different I can drink that will wake me up/give me energy that is NUTRITIOUS.

Thanks

lucozade!!!!...i think :confused:

Remember I said nutritious...

And if possible, something other then Red Bull's or something...that 3$ a day will add up after time.

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I haven't touched coffee in years and I'm more awake in the mornings than some people I see drinking coffee. It seems coffee has a vicious cycle of taking you in so you need more and more. I know people who get headaches if they don't have a cup in the morning :eek: never mind that they need it to get them up. As for myself, I drink about two or three glasses of water in the morning and later when I get to work I have a V8 and that works for me fine.

...is there anything different I can drink that will wake me up/give me energy that is NUTRITIOUS.

Yeah, steroids.

I know this may sound stupid but try doing a few light exersies such as a set or 2 of pressups and crunches. gets the blood flowing and seems to wake me up.

put it to you this way...coffee is bad enough to make some people think they HAVE to have it to wake up in the morning...and they do slack off if they dont have it too thats the thing

i think if coffee is legal weed should be thats how bad it is ...

i just drinking coffe right now!i think cofee adds life!lol!my grandparents they reach 100 y/o and everyday they drink coffee!

thats funny man i read a study was done and only like a certain number of the chemicals in coffee that they checked was higher then that of weed and thats just of what they checked!

ok comparing weed to coffee is a bit of a reach.

I would avoid coffee (and caffeinated beverages) altogether simply because of the caffeine. You don't need it. Just as you should avoid any supplements that contain caffeine and caffeine derivatives (or drugs/stimulants) that are similar to it (e.g., guarana). Even decaf coffee has minimal amounts of caffeine in it (along with other chemicals).

Cut it out of your diet and stick to water and fresh squeezed juices (or frozen-blender fruit) juices, or at least all-natural juices to avoid the high-sugar content of most "juices" that are only 10-25% juice anyway. Once you cut it out, you'll feel much, much better after a while.

The only successful method I know of to wake yourself up in the mornings without drinking coffee, get a cold shower. That probably sounds rediculous but it really works. I'm wide awake as soon as I feel ice cold water on the back of my neck, seems to shock your senses to life or something like that.

True enough. I always shower cold in the morning, BUT I always do so after a really good PT (workout) session as well. Get up at 0430 every morning (a habit from years in the USMC), rain or shine, for PT. Then, cold shower. Point being, don't know your exercise regimen, but I find a session, at least for an hour or so, in the morning, also helps to really wake me up as well. Might give that a try too.

ok comparing weed to coffee is a bit of a reach.
i compair them because coffee is so dangerous yet its legal
while weed dosnt really hurt anybody

coffee ****s your gul bladder up not to mention your kidneys and it does who knows what to your liver ... its no walk in the park

myths and myths about coffe.

according to the newest studies, coffe encrease the metabolism and make you perform bout 5% both in strength and stamina, coffe also includes no kcals and are full off antioxydants.

1-5 cups a day is not only ok its actually good for you, allthough rember to drink more water if you drink coffe.

yeah man thats why people get head aches and **** when they cant have it

thats funny man i read a study was done and only like a certain number of the chemicals in coffee that they checked was higher then that of weed and thats just of what they checked!

actually i've heard coffee has components in it which help fight cancer

i also know that pot helps cancer , aids, so on so forth patients
its not something i heard that i cant verify

point is ...coffee gives some people headaches and **** if they dont have it not to mention makes them mean and docile

pot dosnt give you headaches if you dont have it ..the only people that get mean .are jerks to begain with ...and its proven not to affect peoples general personailitys

proof man... facts not something i heard waiting to get my teeth cleaned

i also know that pot helps cancer , aids, so on so forth patients
its not something i heard that i cant verify

point is ...coffee gives some people headaches and **** if they dont have it not to mention makes them mean and docile

pot dosnt give you headaches if you dont have it ..the only people that get mean .are jerks to begain with ...and its proven not to affect peoples general personailitys

proof man... facts not something i heard waiting to get my teeth cleaned

Ok, you saying weed has hardly any negative effects is very troubling especially if your a boxer.

On The Brain:
-THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to organs throughout the body, including the brain.

-In the brain, THC connects to specific sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement. (seems like things important to boxing, No?)

-Short term memory loss, as well as problems learning anything.

On The Heart:
-One study has indicated that an abuser's risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana.

On The Lungs:
- Even infrequent abuse can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, often accompanied by a heavy cough.

-Marijuana abuse also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens.

-Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may be more harmful to the lungs than smoking tobacco.


I've had enough friends who dont reach their potential because of POT. Dont fall into that trap.

myths and myths about coffe.

according to the newest studies, coffe encrease the metabolism and make you perform bout 5% both in strength and stamina, coffe also includes no kcals and are full off antioxydants.

1-5 cups a day is not only ok its actually good for you, allthough rember to drink more water if you drink coffe.

Correct. They now say its good for you (although I assume decaf)

POsted it twice silly billy :D

Coffee good for u, generally no. Hes the irony, people get hooked on drinking coffee cause it makes um feel better, more alert etc,At Bristol University studies were performed. Does coffee actually increae ur energy and mental performance or just relieve the symptons of withdrawal?

They found out coffee drinkers dont feel better then people who never drink it. In other words drinking cofee relieves the symptoms of withdrawal from cofee. its addictive.

As well as being aditive ita ctaully worsens mental performance. Test have been done that were published in the AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PSYCHIARY looked at 1500 psychology students and seperated them into groups depending on how much they drank.

Coffee drinkers in all groups had higher levels of anixuety and depresstion than non coffee drinkers,high connsumers had greastest incidence of stress related problems as well as lower academic performance. A number of studies have show that the ability to remember a list of words is reduced by caffine.

One researcher said"it effects the rapid processing of ambigiguous or confussing stimuli.

Caffee blocks receptors in the brain called adenosine which stops the release of dopamine and adrenalin.This makes u less motivated decreases alertness and peak concentration.

The more coffee u drink the more insensitive u become to ur own natural stimulants dopamine and adrenaline.U then need more stimulants to feel normal, and keep puushing ur bosy to produce dop and adren, eventually causing exhustion and an inability to stop producing these chemicals.
Apathy, depression exhustion and an ability to cope can sset in.

If u want to be in tip top shape stay away from stimulants. Too much caffeine in some individuals can help trigger schizoprenia or mania.

Give coffee up for two weeks. U may get withdrwal symptoms tired ness headaches etc. Afetr 3 or 4 days u will begin to feel perky and ur health improves. :boxing:

thats funny man i read a study was done and only like a certain number of the chemicals in coffee that they checked was higher then that of weed and thats just of what they checked!

**** it, I'm gonna roll some cofee bean right now... :439:

**** it. i love community coffee dark roast. i dont care if it's bad or good for me, i just know i love it and drink 3-4 cups a day

**** it, I'm gonna roll some cofee bean right now... :439:
lol are you being sarcastic? cause i know your ass isnt gonna say your gonna roll up a liqure joint haha

Coffee good for u, generally no. Hes the irony, people get hooked on drinking coffee cause it makes um feel better, more alert etc,At Bristol University studies were performed. Does coffee actually increae ur energy and mental performance or just relieve the symptons of withdrawal?

They found out coffee drinkers dont feel better then people who never drink it. In other words drinking cofee relieves the symptoms of withdrawal from cofee. its addictive.

As well as being aditive ita ctaully worsens mental performance. Test have been done that were published in the AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PSYCHIARY looked at 1500 psychology students and seperated them into groups depending on how much they drank.

Coffee drinkers in all groups had higher levels of anixuety and depresstion than non coffee drinkers,high connsumers had greastest incidence of stress related problems as well as lower academic performance. A number of studies have show that the ability to remember a list of words is reduced by caffine.

One researcher said"it effects the rapid processing of ambigiguous or confussing stimuli.

Caffee blocks receptors in the brain called adenosine which stops the release of dopamine and adrenalin.This makes u less motivated decreases alertness and peak concentration.

The more coffee u drink the more insensitive u become to ur own natural stimulants dopamine and adrenaline.U then need more stimulants to feel normal, and keep puushing ur bosy to produce dop and adren, eventually causing exhustion and an inability to stop producing these chemicals.
Apathy, depression exhustion and an ability to cope can sset in.

If u want to be in tip top shape stay away from stimulants. Too much caffeine in some individuals can help trigger schizoprenia or mania.

Give coffee up for two weeks. U may get withdrwal symptoms tired ness headaches etc. Afetr 3 or 4 days u will begin to feel perky and ur health improves. :boxing:

i think i'm gonna give it a go!

yeah man thats why people get head aches and **** when they cant have it

dude, that happens whan your addicted, i kno people who had the problem but thats people who drink 10 cups a day.

not the recommende 1-5


i have no problems with it, neither does my trainer and he has been drinking coffe since the early 80s

Correct. They now say its good for you (although I assume decaf)

damn we actually agree :eek:


no it was normal coffe.

norway is by the way one off the most coffe drinking countries in the world, and we live til we are 70

i compair them because coffee is so dangerous yet its legal
while weed dosnt really hurt anybody

coffee ****s your gul bladder up not to mention your kidneys and it does who knows what to your liver ... its no walk in the park

smoking weed, or anything else for that matter, can give you lung cancer, and that hurts plenty of people

damn we actually agree :eek:


no it was normal coffe.

norway is by the way one off the most coffe drinking countries in the world, and we live til we are 70

Hope this was a typo man. "70?" That's nothing brother. Even in the US, life expectancy is, on average, over 75 years of age. It's typically between 75.7 and 76.5 years, with it having risen recently to 77.9 years. Hard to calculate precisely however, because even worldwide life expectancies vary based on the year a person was born; It's not based on the year you're presently living in. Anyway you cut it though, saying you live until you're "70" isn't saying too much. But I get the idea of where you're coming from.

My only point was to avoid the caffeine. Decaf coffee isn't that much better because, frankly, there are chemicals other than caffeine which are present in the coffee which can be just as harmful to some people. There is a roller-coaster effect to coffee and caffeine; highs and lows, crashes and rebounds which come from consuming the drug. You cut it out of your diet, you'll feel better, have improved energy, sleeping patterns (sounder sleep, deeper sleep), etc. Even been known to give some heart palpitations given the impact of caffeine on blood pressure and your heart rate.

I used to consume caffeine like crazy. Found that it was giving me blinding headaches and even raised my blood pressure. Had to cut it cold turkey. That wasn't as hard as most people think, or as it sounds. Now it's been years since I've had it. I admit, I miss the tastes of (sometimes) colas and coffee too, but don't miss the effects of what it did to my life. Feel way, way better with out it. Just one boxer's opinion on it, but I'll admit it might impact everyone differently.

Ok, you saying weed has hardly any negative effects is very troubling especially if your a boxer.

On The Brain:
-THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to organs throughout the body, including the brain.

-In the brain, THC connects to specific sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement. (seems like things important to boxing, No?)

-Short term memory loss, as well as problems learning anything.

On The Heart:
-One study has indicated that an abuser's risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana.

On The Lungs:
- Even infrequent abuse can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, often accompanied by a heavy cough.

-Marijuana abuse also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens.

-Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may be more harmful to the lungs than smoking tobacco.


I've had enough friends who dont reach their potential because of POT. Dont fall into that trap.

how bout the muscles, heard weed does something to them?
Weed is tearing up my town, you go behind my local genavese(its like a supermarket) and all u see its potheads and dealers. they just smoke the **** right there. Actually thats the drug hotspot as u could see guys shooting up heroin and others sniffing coke in their cars. I really gotta get away cuz i feel myself getting pulled in

Drink RockStar Energy Drink instead.

You Get Vitamins and good things instead of just dirty water with some caffeine. :)

OK thats a little harsh, coffee is still good so just drop a vitamin in your coffee... :cool:



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great debate...but back to the original question.

Cold showers, working out before I leave, ice cold on my neck, etc etc will wake me up...what about the freshly squeezed juices. Will that help me to get awake?

great debate...but back to the original question.

Cold showers, working out before I leave, ice cold on my neck, etc etc will wake me up...what about the freshly squeezed juices. Will that help me to get awake?

Deep braething exercises if u are unable to run, then juice fresh and dont eat till ur wide awake. Sorted.

Hope this was a typo man. "70?" That's nothing brother. Even in the US, life expectancy is, on average, over 75 years of age. It's typically between 75.7 and 76.5 years, with it having risen recently to 77.9 years. Hard to calculate precisely however, because even worldwide life expectancies vary based on the year a person was born; It's not based on the year you're presently living in. Anyway you cut it though, saying you live until you're "70" isn't saying too much. But I get the idea of where you're coming from.

My only point was to avoid the caffeine. Decaf coffee isn't that much better because, frankly, there are chemicals other than caffeine which are present in the coffee which can be just as harmful to some people. There is a roller-coaster effect to coffee and caffeine; highs and lows, crashes and rebounds which come from consuming the drug. You cut it out of your diet, you'll feel better, have improved energy, sleeping patterns (sounder sleep, deeper sleep), etc. Even been known to give some heart palpitations given the impact of caffeine on blood pressure and your heart rate.

I used to consume caffeine like crazy. Found that it was giving me blinding headaches and even raised my blood pressure. Had to cut it cold turkey. That wasn't as hard as most people think, or as it sounds. Now it's been years since I've had it. I admit, I miss the tastes of (sometimes) colas and coffee too, but don't miss the effects of what it did to my life. Feel way, way better with out it. Just one boxer's opinion on it, but I'll admit it might impact everyone differently.


i didnt check the exact average lifetime, but you took my point.

abd as ive said many times allready in this thread, coffe is good in moderation.