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Leather
11-19-2002, 04:23 AM
Do you know some death in MMA events? I heard about an american fighter in Russia 6 years ago, but it's true?

ParazIT
11-19-2002, 04:29 AM
I've heard about him too..never heard of anyone else...but whenever I show some MMA to people they ask "How many has died??"

HULK
11-19-2002, 04:35 AM
Yeah I get that question also when I talk about UFC but then I ask them how many have died in boxing...

Leather
11-19-2002, 04:37 AM
Yes, i'm in the same situation....A lot of people doesn't understand the MMA world and they think the fighters are crazy or be animals.

HULK
11-19-2002, 04:39 AM
Yeah they probebly think of the old UFC and think there are no rules and stuff like that...

ParazIT
11-19-2002, 05:03 AM
sometimes I lie and say that there are atleast one guy who dies every event...and that I've competed in houndreds...soon I'll be a legend...

HULK
11-19-2002, 05:22 AM
Then you should change your name to RickzonIT ;-)

pål johnsen
11-19-2002, 05:24 AM
yes! i cant remember his name*! but its on the net! he died in his hotell after the fight though!

ParazIT
11-19-2002, 07:37 AM
RicksonzIT :D

pål johnsen
11-19-2002, 07:44 AM
lol

Leather
11-19-2002, 08:27 AM
Somebody told me he dies in a tatami, no on a ring and no on an octagon., but i'm not sure. Another thing, told me he has and MA School in USA...

ParazIT
11-19-2002, 10:11 AM
so he runs a school even thou he's dead?

momita
11-19-2002, 12:03 PM
Death in sports:

Fatal accident rates

Swimming 191
Boating/sailing 69
Motor sports 65
Horse riding 62
Air sports 51
Mountaineering 51
Fishing 50
Soccer 14
Running/jogging 9
Badminton 3
Cricket 2
Hockey 2
Rugby 2
Golf 1
Gymnastics 1
Tennis 1


Sports in order of risk of injury
Activity Per 100,000 participating

Rugby 440
Soccer 200
Cricket 130
Hockey 130
Skiing 130
Netball 82
Athletics 69
Motor sport 58
Basketball 39
Squash 29
Riding/horse sport 26
Climbing/mountaineering 17
Tennis 15
Badminton 14
Fishing 11
Sailing 11
Running/jogging 7
Golf 5
Bowls 3
Swimming 2
Table tennis 1
Table stick report 0.2

Death from MMA? (taken from internet).
Douglas Dedge's untimely death in No Holds Barred (NHB) has opened the floodgates of debate and subjected Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) to a well deserved scrutiny. The haunting question is, could this tragedy have been averted? Mr. Dedge's death, although tragic, provides a baseline for MMA risk analysis.

By all accounts, Dedge took 3-4 blows to the head, not uncommon in any NHB fight; Vitor Belfort hit John Hess with a dozen or more unanswered blows in Hawaii years ago. Boxers exchange an average of 30-40 blows per round! How many solid blows did Eugenio receive before Hamilton stopped the fight in UFC XVI? Is it fair to expect the referee to jump in following the first couple of unanswered blows? 3-4 blows can happen in a matter of seconds. I saw Dedge's fight in Kiev, Ukraine. Most of the punches by his opponent missed the target. The ones that landed paled in solidarity to the punishment Belfort dishes out in any of his fights.


At the risk of sounding callous, I believe the first known death in NHB may very well have been due to pre-existing conditions, a punch that hit the exact spot, or both. One of Dedge's friends mentioned his blacking out sometimes in training a couple of months prior to his last fight. Dr. Peter W. Lampert and Dr. John M. Hardman wrote in a 1984 JAMA article that one punch to the head in the right spot can "cause the soft brain to glide and swirl within the skull, tearing vessels and nerve fibers." One result may be a subdural hematoma, an area in which blood from torn vessels clots and puts pressure on the brain, sometimes causing death.

James Fulton
11-19-2002, 12:22 PM
Some old guy just died in a recent "Toughman" event, but that's boxing.

Leather
11-19-2002, 02:08 PM
Thanks flame resistant. Sorry Parazit, I should say "had" not "has".
It's very curious an sport like swimming has a lot of fatalities, and MMA , in theory, more violent, hasn't so much as the first.

Piedra
11-19-2002, 04:04 PM
Pro wrestling is even more dangerous you die............smiling.

Leather
11-19-2002, 04:39 PM
Tienes toda la razón Piedra!! Si no, mira las poses de Randleman y Coleman....

Piedra
11-19-2002, 05:06 PM
Que onda como estas leather no sabía que en Barcelona habia tambien fans de mma, hace no mucho tiempo me iba ir a vivir a barcelona, bueno a estudiar pero puta madre para rentar como extranjero cualquier propiedad te piden el dichoso aval bancario que es muchísimo dinero, pero dime allá en barcelona es facil conseguir videos recientes del pride o del ufc? por que aqui en México es bastante dificil, y bueno regresando un poco al tema las únicas muertes son pero de risa, desafortunadamente si hubo una muerte fue en Ucrania pero no al momento de la pelea, si no posteriormente debido a las contusiones, incluso en las noticias salió un pequeño video. De cualquier forma que bueno que haya gente como tú que comprenda que esto no es una pelea de gallos sino un deporte. ADEU MI AMIGO.

ParazIT
11-19-2002, 06:06 PM
TOO....MUCH....SPANISH.....YO....SOY.....ESTUPIDO. ...

Leather
11-20-2002, 06:37 AM
Please ParazIT, you must respect other people and other idioms!!!

ParazIT
11-20-2002, 07:30 AM
did you just call me a idiom?!? ;)

seldomTap
11-21-2002, 03:10 AM
no ubla espanloa people!

Flame resistant is spot on, there are many more sports where injuries are more common than Martial arts, and MMA is a hell of a lot safer than boxing.

I know that I have been hit way harder in rugby than when training against one other. And in MMA/martial arts/boxing, you know where the blows are coming from, in Rugby, American football, hockey, you often don't know it is coming until you are on your ass...blindsides suck!

Piedra
11-21-2002, 12:51 PM
I speak type and write whatever I like, fourre le doigts dans le cul connard, thats in case you dont like spanish, si van a criticar al menos intenten aprender español bola de pendejos.

Leather
11-21-2002, 03:38 PM
Ahi tus cojones Piedra!! Por cierto, bonito avatar, ¿de dónde lo sacaste?
Sorry to all people no-spanish speakers, but you must respect all idioms...And I respect this great forum!! and all languages in this, like english or norge!! All friends and fighters!!

handjobs4dollars
11-21-2002, 03:46 PM
yeah rugby deaths is only two. The only injurys i got from it is a compressed disk and a missing front tooth.

Leather
11-21-2002, 03:57 PM
I saw 3/4 of a finger into a guy's eye during a rugby match!! very shocker!!

Have you seen the broken leg of soccer player Manuel Pablo?....I've never seen something like that in MMA events!!!