catskills23
09-05-2006, 02:58 PM
Dose know how hard tyson hit in his prime in pounds per square inch.
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View Full Version : How hard did tyson punch?. catskills23 09-05-2006, 02:58 PM Dose know how hard tyson hit in his prime in pounds per square inch. micky_knox 09-05-2006, 06:44 PM very hard thats all i know Southpaw Stinger 09-05-2006, 07:14 PM Does it really matter. He knocked guys out, thats what counts. NJFighter91 09-05-2006, 07:35 PM Haha...word Dye 09-05-2006, 09:58 PM Dose know how hard tyson hit in his prime in pounds per square inch. i am starting to not give a **** who hit the hardest RonRoss 09-05-2006, 09:59 PM i wanna see sum sort of table that holds all the past and present fighters punching power just out of interest hellfire508 09-06-2006, 04:20 AM Depends on who you ask. Some say 1000, or 1200 PSI. Some Tyson fans on here claim 675 million PSI... I don't know who to believe. Then again, I don't think he was ever measured. abdiel2k3 09-06-2006, 04:58 AM Depends on who you ask. Some say 1000, or 1200 PSI. Some Tyson fans on here claim 675 million PSI... I don't know who to believe. Then again, I don't think he was ever measured. when ever this stupid kinda talk comes up u know theyre not a boxing fan u know theyre not a mike tyson fan theyre a Tie-sen fan people who just bought into the myth of tyson PSI?!?!?!?!??! STFU PLEASE god almighty just shut the fuk up NJFighter91 09-06-2006, 09:12 AM I heard he once broke a mountain with his jab. Abe Attell 09-06-2006, 10:17 AM According to Rooney, Tyson never took a "PSI" test...Cayton wouldn't allow Tyson to do something so stupid, risking injury to his hands, for no money. Even if you have power, you have to land first...maybe we should consider his talent for accurate punching in his prime instead of this constant b.s. about fighter's power...Power is a gift that you don't really have to work a whole lot on, but accurate punching is hard work...it tells us that this guy has been putting the time in the gym to be great. Dempsey 1919 09-06-2006, 10:32 AM Can ya'll get off this issue already. catskills23 09-06-2006, 03:42 PM According to Rooney, Tyson never took a "PSI" test...Cayton wouldn't allow Tyson to do something so stupid, risking injury to his hands, for no money. Even if you have power, you have to land first...maybe we should consider his talent for accurate punching in his prime instead of this constant b.s. about fighter's power...Power is a gift that you don't really have to work a whole lot on, but accurate punching is hard work...it tells us that this guy has been putting the time in the gym to be great. when did rooney say this ?. Tyson could of gone his punching power measured after he left cayton. Yaman 09-06-2006, 03:57 PM when did rooney say this ?. Tyson could of gone his punching power measured after he left cayton. Cant you just let this subject go for once in your life!! hemichromis 09-06-2006, 05:33 PM According to Rooney, Tyson never took a "PSI" test...Cayton wouldn't allow Tyson to do something so stupid, risking injury to his hands, for no money. Even if you have power, you have to land first...maybe we should consider his talent for accurate punching in his prime instead of this constant b.s. about fighter's power...Power is a gift that you don't really have to work a whole lot on, but accurate punching is hard work...it tells us that this guy has been putting the time in the gym to be great. true! his speed and precision were far more impreesive than his power Dye 09-06-2006, 05:42 PM true! his speed and precision were far more impreesive than his power sharp punches KOThaGr8RyanKO 09-06-2006, 06:14 PM sure, of course he could hit, no one doubts he couldn't but his main strength was the speed and sharpeness dynmite said combined wiht the power he could play around with his opponents constantly jabbing to **** them up then up him up hit soem decent punches then hit him with his nuts combos and bang fight over! catskills23 09-07-2006, 02:14 PM sure, of course he could hit, no one doubts he couldn't but his main strength was the speed and sharpeness dynmite said combined wiht the power he could play around with his opponents constantly jabbing to **** them up then up him up hit soem decent punches then hit him with his nuts combos and bang fight over! well left hook king says he saw a video on the net of tyson getting his punching power measured. Zigga 09-09-2006, 09:51 PM well left hook king says he saw a video on the net of tyson getting his punching power measured. Well if left hook says so it must be true :rolleyes: Nieve comes to mind :D Abe Attell 09-10-2006, 01:16 AM when did rooney say this ?. Tyson could of gone his punching power measured after he left cayton. Can't remember what website it was on, but it was either around the time of the Danny Williams fight or McBride, can't remember...might have even been before that, but not sure...I am bad with time Piggu 09-10-2006, 01:28 AM delete delete You can delete posts you know. Abe Attell 09-10-2006, 01:39 AM Like I said, Rooney said Tyson's punch wasn't measured, but he always says Mike punched "hard" so I guess it doesn't matter VERSATILE2K12 09-10-2006, 01:52 AM Like I said, Rooney said Tyson's punch wasn't measured, but he always says Mike punched "hard" so I guess it doesn't matter rooney cant really do the punching mitts ne more cause he has arthritis from tyson punching so hard for years before. this i know cause i talked to 1 of his fighters when i went to catskills this year catskills23 09-10-2006, 11:23 AM Like I said, Rooney said Tyson's punch wasn't measured, but he always says Mike punched "hard" so I guess it doesn't matter Rooney was only with tyson until 1988 . Tyson could have got his punching power measured after that .He did it get it measured before the lewis fight but the results werent in psi .All it said was that tysons punch was the equivalent of a 17 lb wooden mallet hitting you at 35 mph . Kid Achilles 09-10-2006, 11:37 AM If I had to guess, I think Tyson hit on the 1200-1300 level. Sam McVea (or McVey as I've also seen it), who physically was built a lot like Tyson, hit at this PSI in the early 1900's. For a comparison, Michael Spinks (a decent puncher even at heavyweight) hit at 700-750 PSI or so. These tests have been around for a long time, over a hundred years. It's interesting that Bob Fitzsimmons, at 160-170 pounds, actually hit at something like 1050 PSI, just a hundred less than modern heavyweight sized Jim Jeffries. Reminds me of Jeff Lacy scoring higher than any of the heavyweights on his olympic team, though I don't think even Lacy hits at 1000 PSI. Fitz was a freak of nature. catskills23 09-10-2006, 12:27 PM If I had to guess, I think Tyson hit on the 1200-1300 level. Sam McVea (or McVey as I've also seen it), who physically was built a lot like Tyson, hit at this PSI in the early 1900's. For a comparison, Michael Spinks (a decent puncher even at heavyweight) hit at 700-750 PSI or so. These tests have been around for a long time, over a hundred years. It's interesting that Bob Fitzsimmons, at 160-170 pounds, actually hit at something like 1050 PSI, just a hundred less than modern heavyweight sized Jim Jeffries. Reminds me of Jeff Lacy scoring higher than any of the heavyweights on his olympic team, though I don't think even Lacy hits at 1000 PSI. Fitz was a freak of nature. i think tyson hits over 1300 psi now . Vitali klitschko hits at 1300 psi and willams and francis who fought both guys have said that tyson hit harder . In tysons prime he probably hit as hard as shavers or foreman because of his handspeed . he probably hit at 1600 psi + Southpaw Stinger 09-10-2006, 12:49 PM In tysons prime he probably hit as hard as shavers or foreman because of his handspeed . he probably hit at 1600 psi + You can't just make assumptions like that. Tysons hand speed wouldn't have made much difference to his actual punch power, it just meant he could hit people with more power shots. I don't know why people overate Tyson's punching power that much, his power was ok but nothing special. It was his skill and speedy combinations which knocked out his opponents. Yaman 09-10-2006, 12:56 PM You can't just make assumptions like that. Tysons hand speed wouldn't have made much difference to his actual punch power, it just meant he could hit people with more power shots. I don't know why people overate Tyson's punching power that much, his power was ok but nothing special. It was his skill and speedy combinations which knocked out his opponents. I dont agree. His power was more than special. He had huge power in both hands. His accuracy and speed was NOT the reason why he ko'd his oppponents. There have been lots of heavyweights with the same speed and accuracy. Muhammad Ali, Chris Byrd, Floyd Patterson etc. But They were no knockout machines like Tyson because they didnt have the power. Tyson was one of the hardest hitters of all time. But people overrate it. I agree with that. But not as much as some say. catskills23 09-10-2006, 03:06 PM You can't just make assumptions like that. Tysons hand speed wouldn't have made much difference to his actual punch power, it just meant he could hit people with more power shots. I don't know why people overate Tyson's punching power that much, his power was ok but nothing special. It was his skill and speedy combinations which knocked out his opponents. Speed equals power . power equals acceleration multiplied by mass . I have no doubt shavers and foreman had more mass behind their punches but tyson had much more acceleration which gives him the extra power . without tysons speed he wouldnt of being able to generate the same force behind his punches as foreman or shavers but speed gave him the extra force to enable him to generate as much power as foreman and shavers if not more . Southpaw Stinger 09-10-2006, 03:20 PM Speed equals power . power equals acceleration multiplied by mass That is the theory but that also means that Ali would have tremendous KO power since he was both bigger and faster than Tyson. hemichromis 09-10-2006, 03:24 PM tysons speed and precision is waht made him dangerous but he was powerful also catskills23 09-10-2006, 03:27 PM That is the theory but that also means that Ali would have tremendous KO power since he was both bigger and faster than Tyson. Ali wasent bigger than tyson he was taller and tyson was much physically stronger than ali and had much more mass behind his punches . Contrary to popular believe ali actually had pretty decent power . After he beat liston. Liston said to his trainer . "Thats not the guy i was suppose to fight that guy could punch" . A few more of alis opponents attested to the fact that ali had pretty decent power but what gave ali his decent hitting power was his speed without his speed he would only of hit as hard as chris byrd who is a very weak puncher. Southpaw Stinger 09-10-2006, 03:30 PM Ali wasent bigger than tyson he was taller and tyson was much physically stronger Ali was stronger than Tyson in a physical sense. Although Foreman said Ali hit like a ***** although he's damn strong. catskills23 09-10-2006, 03:34 PM Ali was stronger than Tyson in a physical sense. Although Foreman said Ali hit like a ***** although he's damn strong. Foreman never said ali hit like a ***** . He said ali had deceptive power. Tyson was much stronger than ali when tyson was 12 he could bench press 250 pounds . When tyson was in his prime he was impossible to back up . Southpaw Stinger 09-10-2006, 03:38 PM Tyson was much stronger than ali when tyson was 12 he could bench press 250 pounds .When tyson was in his prime he was impossible to back up Benching and ring strength are diffrent things. And even when Ali was past his prime he still dominated guys in clinches and could take tremendous punishment. If it was a push war I would back Ali to push Tyson around. catskills23 09-10-2006, 03:41 PM If I had to guess, I think Tyson hit on the 1200-1300 level. Sam McVea (or McVey as I've also seen it), who physically was built a lot like Tyson, hit at this PSI in the early 1900's. For a comparison, Michael Spinks (a decent puncher even at heavyweight) hit at 700-750 PSI or so. These tests have been around for a long time, over a hundred years. It's interesting that Bob Fitzsimmons, at 160-170 pounds, actually hit at something like 1050 PSI, just a hundred less than modern heavyweight sized Jim Jeffries. Reminds me of Jeff Lacy scoring higher than any of the heavyweights on his olympic team, though I don't think even Lacy hits at 1000 PSI. Fitz was a freak of nature. Yeah sam mcvey hit at 1300 psi with 4 ounce gloves . Give Mcvey or Fitzimmons 10 ounce gloves and they wouldnt hit half as hard . i mean those guys only weighed 160 pounds no way did they hit as hard as tyson . catskills23 09-29-2006, 07:39 PM well fighters screamed like *****es when tyson hit them foreman or shavers never made their opponents scream like *****es. Dempsey 1919 09-29-2006, 07:44 PM well fighters screamed like *****es when tyson hit them foreman or shavers never made their opponents scream like *****es. foreman and shavers didn't make them scream because they were tougher than tyson's opponents. Southpaw Stinger 09-29-2006, 08:48 PM well fighters screamed like *****es when tyson hit them Mainly because most of Tysons opponents were *****es.. And it has been proven that it is harder to scream beyond a certain amount of pain. If somthing hurts bad it can course someone to scream, if somthing hurts very very much it can be almost impossible to scream due to the trauma. Tysons punches may have hurt guys but Foremans and Shavers punchers caused damage that took guys beyond simple pain. Brockton Lip 09-29-2006, 09:23 PM These threads are getting annoying. He doesn't hit harder than Foreman, Marciano, or Shavers. And since these threads annoy me; he doesn't hit harder than Willie Pep either. I'm a Tyson fan but some people think hes Superman. Southpaw Stinger 09-29-2006, 09:31 PM some people think hes Superman. Sadly this is true. catskills23 09-30-2006, 01:13 AM Mainly because most of Tysons opponents were *****es.. And it has been proven that it is harder to scream beyond a certain amount of pain. If somthing hurts bad it can course someone to scream, if somthing hurts very very much it can be almost impossible to scream due to the trauma. Tysons punches may have hurt guys but Foremans and Shavers punchers caused damage that took guys beyond simple pain. proven by who? Yogi 09-30-2006, 01:16 AM When tyson was in his prime he was impossible to back up . It's funny you say that because, for whatever reason, I just finished watching parts of Tyson's fight with Bonecrusher Smith, and there it is on video...Smith pushing Tyson backwards in the clinch on quite a few occasions during the fight, and less so, even does so with that right hand at the very end of the fight which the commentators make mention of ("There was a right hand from Smith. That actually backed Tyson up."). So does that make Bonecrusher Smith a superhero or something like that, seeing as how he proved capable of doing what you deemed "impossible"? Or is your comment yet another example of the hore**** that is generally spewed from you Tyson fanatics? I'll take option two for $500, Alex. P.S. Not that I care to check them out right now, but I'd venture to guess that that is not the only time Tyson was backed up (in the clinches or otherwise) during his so-called prime. Brockton Lip 09-30-2006, 01:36 AM I also watched the fight actually and saw the same thing. VERSATILE2K12 09-30-2006, 01:36 AM I dont agree. His power was more than special. He had huge power in both hands. His accuracy and speed was NOT the reason why he ko'd his oppponents. There have been lots of heavyweights with the same speed and accuracy. Muhammad Ali, Chris Byrd, Floyd Patterson etc. But They were no knockout machines like Tyson because they didnt have the power. Tyson was one of the hardest hitters of all time. But people overrate it. I agree with that. But not as much as some say. no u didnt VERSATILE2K12 09-30-2006, 01:38 AM tyson punched hard.enough said Southpaw Stinger 09-30-2006, 08:55 AM tyson punched hard.enough said Thats all that needs to be said. No ones disputing the fact that Tyson hit hard. catskills23 10-01-2006, 01:33 PM tyson punched hard.enough said tyson punched more than hard . tp prove my point even a shot tyson lifted the 260 pound willams of the canvas with an uppercut thats a dam sight more impressive than foreman lifting the 210 pound frazier of the canvas . When tyson was trained by rooney and in sparring sessions and went all out on his sparring partners he sent them to hospital they literally had to be carried out of the ring in a stretcher . Tyson use to even rock 230 pound fighters with his jabs such as bruno . Tyson had enormous power why people think he wasent a massive puncher i will never know . he hit golata so hard with a right hand to the jaw that the shockwaves went right through his back and broke a vertebrae and severed a nerve if thats not power i dont know what is . :Bobby: 10-01-2006, 02:44 PM Everybody who doubts Tyson's power should watch the fifth round of the Both fight. Mike Tyson seems to be the most underrated boxer ever. Brockton Lip 10-01-2006, 02:53 PM Mike Tyson seems to be the most underrated boxer ever. :puppy_dog :ugh: :tapedshut lol Southpaw Stinger 10-01-2006, 02:58 PM Mike Tyson seems to be the most underrated boxer ever. For ****s sake... Mike is quite the opposite of that. And there are more people who overate him than there are who underate him. Hydro 10-04-2006, 07:16 PM http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30804 http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39782 http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51146 http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53120 http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80441 catskills23 12-20-2006, 10:53 AM Tysons power must of being measured at some stage in his career. Shavers, foreman,louis,marciano, wald and vitai klitschko all had their power measured. Tyson must of aswell. The Surgeon 12-20-2006, 03:00 PM Alex Arthur had his power tested the other day, it didnt reveal the numbers but apparently he hits as hard as most super middles! I find it a bit hard to beleive! Hydro 12-21-2006, 02:48 PM bumping this thread and castkills' others just for fun. catskills23 05-24-2008, 05:19 PM According to Rooney, Tyson never took a "PSI" test...Cayton wouldn't allow Tyson to do something so stupid, risking injury to his hands, for no money. Even if you have power, you have to land first...maybe we should consider his talent for accurate punching in his prime instead of this constant b.s. about fighter's power...Power is a gift that you don't really have to work a whole lot on, but accurate punching is hard work...it tells us that this guy has been putting the time in the gym to be great. When did rooney say this?. hemichromis 05-24-2008, 06:44 PM Does it really matter. He knocked guys out, thats what counts. agreed! some people punched harder but few punched better! them_apples 05-24-2008, 06:48 PM Tyson hit well over 1000 psi, On most account's I have read 1600-1700 when he tested with frank Bruno, he wasn't even that old. fight science did a test with a heavyweight boxer who hit at 970* Psi with a straight right, Tyson was a master at punching, was bigger and even hit hard for his size on all accounts so 1700 would be more realistic. no way in hell a guy like Sam Mcvey or Fitzsimmons could hit anywhere close to Tyson, who sometimes lifted 230 lb men off the ground. The Iron Man 05-24-2008, 07:26 PM He hit hard enought to Knock Out 44 opponents. He was never tested, ive seen quotes from Rooney saying that, and a Q&A with Steve Lott on another forum said the same thing. I never understood the obsession of needing to know how hard he hit!! if you that desperate put the Micheal Jack Johnson fight on repeat sjomcik 05-24-2008, 07:57 PM I'm not sure of Tyson hits harder than Goreman or Shavers, but deffinatly he is one of the hardest punchers p4p in boxing history..... catskills23 05-25-2008, 06:42 PM Tyson hit well over 1000 psi, On most account's I have read 1600-1700 when he tested with frank Bruno, he wasn't even that old. fight science did a test with a heavyweight boxer who hit at 970* Psi with a straight right, Tyson was a master at punching, was bigger and even hit hard for his size on all accounts so 1700 would be more realistic. no way in hell a guy like Sam Mcvey or Fitzsimmons could hit anywhere close to Tyson, who sometimes lifted 230 lb men off the ground. when was tyson and brunos power tested?. Who did the test say hit harder?. FkDaHtrs 05-25-2008, 07:20 PM I wouldn't be surprised if he was the hardest hitting fighter ever. He was trained to throw his power punches using his entire body. dobermann28 05-26-2008, 08:29 AM probebly punches at bout 3 and a half tons. Brunswick Assassin 05-29-2008, 01:51 AM Apparently there was some kinda study about how hard Tyson punches and it was the equivalent to being hit with a wooden mallet at full force! Tyson had explosive power hence his alias 'Kid Dynamite'! Ask Pinklon Thomas and he'll testify to that. I haven't seen many fighters absorb the punishment Thomas got at the hands of Tyson. Pinklon's onr tough SOB! randy johnson 05-29-2008, 05:50 PM Tyson punched hard enough to knock out bums,fighters paid by Don King to take a dive,and hard enough to knock out Robin Givens.So i will say one pound per square inch. catskills23 05-29-2008, 06:31 PM Apparently there was some kinda study about how hard Tyson punches and it was the equivalent to being hit with a wooden mallet at full force! Tyson had explosive power hence his alias 'Kid Dynamite'! Ask Pinklon Thomas and he'll testify to that. I haven't seen many fighters absorb the punishment Thomas got at the hands of Tyson. Pinklon's onr tough SOB! pinklon thomas says he wasent to impressed with tysons power. them_apples 05-29-2008, 06:36 PM pinklon thomas says he wasent to impressed with tysons power. where did he say this? the guy was getting beat up so badly I find it hard to believe. catskills23 05-29-2008, 07:55 PM where did he say this? the guy was getting beat up so badly I find it hard to believe. in an interview he said tyson had good power but that tommy morrison hit much harder. Yaman 05-29-2008, 08:06 PM in an interview he said tyson had good power but that tommy morrison hit much harder. He also said Holyfield punched harder than him. He don't like Mike. And I think I heard Tyson punched about 0,25 Tye Fields PSI. robjr 05-29-2008, 09:27 PM hard enough that it took over 10 secs for buster douglas to get up. Dorian 05-29-2008, 10:10 PM We should ask Ettiene catskills23 05-30-2008, 03:37 PM We should ask Ettiene whys hould we ask etienne?. AmP Champion 05-30-2008, 04:30 PM Tyson's punch was amazing but he wasnt fit to be the greatest. As far as power will get you.. it wont get you to the very top. Well its hard to say.. Tyson in his prime used power at its best. Lewis would still have rocked him haha! them_apples 05-30-2008, 04:45 PM Lewis may have, but Holyfield wouldn't have. C.Y. 05-30-2008, 05:24 PM hard enough that it took over 10 secs for buster douglas to get up. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jim Jeffries 05-30-2008, 07:59 PM Lewis may have, but Holyfield wouldn't have. A 34 year old Holyfield rocked and stopped a 30 year old Tyson, but he wouldn't have phased a "prime" Tyson? Explain. Jim Jeffries 05-30-2008, 08:03 PM hard enough that it took over 10 secs for buster douglas to get up. The same Buster Douglas that was previously stopped in 2 by David Bey, in 9 by Mike White, and in 10 by Tony Tucker? That was later stopped in 3 by Holyfield and in 1 by Lou Saverese (where he was knocked down 3 times) for cripes sake? them_apples 05-30-2008, 08:08 PM A 34 year old Holyfield rocked and stopped a 30 year old Tyson, but he wouldn't have phased a "prime" Tyson? Explain. Tyson had different trainers and was with don King, he had also been to prison. If you watch his older fights his corner man would tell him useful information on what he was doing wrong, he threw combos had great foot work and used the jab effectively. In Tyson holyfield 2 tyson wasn't getting rocked, but he turned to his instincts and ruined it. marciano1952 05-30-2008, 08:12 PM Tyson had different trainers and was with don King, he had also been to prison. If you watch his older fights his corner man would tell him useful information on what he was doing wrong, he threw combos had great foot work and used the jab effectively. In Tyson holyfield 2 tyson wasn't getting rocked, but he turned to his instincts and ruined it. hard to call that instinct what he did if im getting beat up instinct tells me to cover up or punch back not bite LOL The Great Shark 12-27-2008, 08:38 PM I think tyson hit hard as a run away 18 wheeler. They should have him on that one show where they measured **** like this. Knighte 12-27-2008, 08:58 PM Any way you slice it, Tyson hit miserably hard. Not only that, he had actual handspeed. Now if only he had heart, ring intelligence, technical skill... boy mighta amounted to somethin. Wyson 12-27-2008, 10:46 PM yeah it doesnt matter how hard you hit...its how fast you are.....tyson had all of the above...making him a great fighter gridiron 12-30-2008, 03:11 AM Repeat sentences "Boxers who faced both Tyson and Foreman, either for real or in sparring, told that the Tyson punches really snapped. They were awful. But, when it came to damaging, the delivery by ol' George did HURT you more." "Steve Farhood, a livin' legend among boxing reporters, writes in the June 2008 issue of Boxing Monthly: Argue if you choose, but for one shot, Shavers was the hardest puncher in history, and 29 years later, the knockdown punch (against Holmes) remains the most brutal I've ever witnessed from ringside." "About the 7th round Shavers-Holmes. It's said no fighter has ever raised from such a devastating punch before. Holmes must have been in absolutely top form that evening, managing to do the impossible." "Both Ali and Holmes have confirmed Shavers was THE hardest puncher they ever faced." |