View Full Version : Is Papoose Too Old?


Coreano
09-01-2006, 06:05 PM
Papoose is one of my favorite rappers these days. And being from NYC I do believe some of the people who say that Pap could bring back the city and help with the movement back to the top. But my question is this, at 27 years old (maybe 28 by now), is he too old to bring back the city? It seems like hes alot older than alot of other rappers where when releasing there major labor debut.

Smokin'
09-01-2006, 06:08 PM
Papoose is one of my favorite rappers these days. And being from NYC I do believe some of the people who say that Pap could bring back the city and help with the movement back to the top. But my question is this, at 27 years old (maybe 28 by now), is he too old to bring back the city? It seems like hes alot older than alot of other rappers where when releasing there major labor debut.
There's a reason it's taken him so long to catch on and release a debut...because his flow is lazier then Loon's and he sounds like **** (yells) on the mic. He couldn't bring NY back even if he was 20.

An answer to the question though, a lot of emcee's still have it even in their 40s. Sure some of their voice changes for the worse (sometimes for the better) but they rarely lose their skills.

neils7147933
09-01-2006, 06:19 PM
We're talking about a rapper, not a tennis player

What does his age have to do with anything?

Truth
09-01-2006, 06:20 PM
There's a reason it's taken him so long to catch on and release a debut...because his flow is lazier then Loon's and he sounds like **** (yells) on the mic. He couldn't bring NY back even if he was 20.

An answer to the question though, a lot of emcee's still have it even in their 40s. Sure some of their voice changes for the worse (sometimes for the better) but they rarely lose their skills.

He has songs that he doesn't yell in. I didn't like his style at first but then I kept listening because he impressed me lyrically and with his concepts. I truly believe he is a special talent, remember people don't usually like talented rappers. So if he doesn't sell it doesn't mean he sucks. Rappers like Talib Kweli and Rakim don't sell like 50 either, and they are great. Not to compare Pap to them yet, my point is good rap doesn't always sell to the mainstream.

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Truth
09-01-2006, 06:26 PM
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Young Pap....

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Coreano
09-01-2006, 06:38 PM
yeah his flow has really grown on me, i think his vocal emphasis helps his lyrics to shine.

RAESAAD
09-01-2006, 06:41 PM
There's a reason it's taken him so long to catch on and release a debut...because his flow is lazier then Loon's and he sounds like **** (yells) on the mic. He couldn't bring NY back even if he was 20.

An answer to the question though, a lot of emcee's still have it even in their 40s. Sure some of their voice changes for the worse (sometimes for the better) but they rarely lose their skills.
Are you kidding the guy is very clever on the mic and is one of the best I have heard in the past 10 years.

Smokin'
09-01-2006, 06:41 PM
He has songs that he doesn't yell in. I didn't like his style at first but then I kept listening because he impressed me lyrically and with his concepts. I truly believe he is a special talent, remember people don't usually like talented rappers. So if he doesn't sell it doesn't mean he sucks. Rappers like Talib Kweli and Rakim don't sell like 50 either, and they are great. Not to compare Pap to them yet, my point is good rap doesn't always sell to the mainstream.

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He is a special talent no doubt but his flow sucks balls and he yells too much. The only time I really like him is when he is on R&B ish songs...

And yeah, I know that good rap doesn't always sell to the mainstream but I was addressing the original question. To bring "NY back", you need to bring it back through the mainstream.

Tha Greatest
09-01-2006, 07:07 PM
Age has NOTHING to do with him being good or not.

Unless he's like 60...that's a different story...

Truth
09-01-2006, 07:10 PM
bring "NY back", you need to bring it back through the mainstream.

Thats true. We'll see...

Truth
09-01-2006, 07:16 PM
yeah his flow has really grown on me, i think his vocal emphasis helps his lyrics to shine.

Same here, I started off not liking his voice now I grew to like it. He just grows on you, same thing happened to one of my friends...

Tha Greatest
09-01-2006, 07:17 PM
Thats true. We'll see...
Well, Papoose has appeared on some music videos and getting known by the mainstream.

He was in the Busta Rhymes touch it remix which was huge, and in the song with Jeanie Ortega, so I definately seen him on tv a LOT....

I love Papoose, I think he can bring NY back.

Tha Greatest
09-01-2006, 07:20 PM
This is the song that got me big on Papoose.

Kool G Rap featuring Papoose and Jinx - Home Sweet Funeral Home

[Chorus]

Home sweet funeral home, ***** that's where you're shown
Call in the cider box, 6 blown in your chest and dome
For tryin' ta hold the fort down, but couldn't hold it
Cuz ****in' wit the Pap'll get your arms folded
So now it's home sweet funeral home, ***** that's where you're shown
Call in the cider box, 6 blown in your chest and dome
For tryin' ta hold the fort down, but couldn't hold it
Cuz ****in' wit this click'll get your arms folded



[Papoose]

Who bet they best against mine?
I press the west and let the vest protect mine
Led crimes that head the headlines and spoke cake times
I used ta catch shines
Rockin' when I see you next time
Neva but greater threat, I make mine
Soon as I let the infared shine
Everybody know it's hit the deck time
Don't go against mine
I make a whino bleed red wine
Sometimes my own peoples slick talk, try ta test mine
Get outta line, so I give em deadlines
Even disrespectful respect mine
Light weighted but I rep mine
I don't lift weights, but I bench press a tec 9
I'm known for holdin' big ****
The last time I showed the biscuit
I made this dude sweat enough bullets ta load a clip wit
When cops drop warrants and try ta get me bagged up
All they hear on they walkie-talkies is "I need back up!"
Papoose the braid blaster since jakes want me in the cage captured
I roll wit more *****s than slave masters



[Jinx]

Time ta retaliate, these fellas actin' like they holdin' weight

I froze the gate, walkin' across the seas like a Moses maid

Approachin' rappers, me and G Rap be the rapper clappers

Shotter wit tecs, we break y'all down like y'all common factors

Steady heat, that's when the juvy proceed

I'm makin' rappers bleed off this rapilism, my feet

I ain't playin' games, y'all rappers betta code in my name

The juvenille strait from Brooklyn, wit the slugs of the same

So play you're position, stop it, I makes you grab their attention

Like a magnet ta somethin' metal, so y'all blinkin' and flickin'

I'm takin' over for the 9 era, it's now or never

Cuz when I get in the door, bringin' drama cuz my rhymes is betta



[Chorus]

Home sweet funeral home, ***** that's where you're shown

Call in the cider box, 6 blown in your chest and dome

For tryin' ta hold the fort down, but couldn't hold it

Cuz ****in' wit G Rap'll get your arms folded

So now it's home sweet funeral home, ***** that's where you're shown

Call in the cider box, 6 blown in your chest and dome

For tryin' ta hold the fort down, but couldn't hold it

Cuz ****in' wit this click'll get your arms folded



[Kool G Rap]

Euology preached by the minister, the sinister diminished ya

You minature, send crazy baby, fifths is ta finish ya

Bust shots ta limit ya, plush glocks ta hemmorrige ya

What cops got the image of, made em block perimeters

They ended up, back in forth beef I walk the streets, neva be prisoner

My lawyer's a close friend of the senator

You was full of ****, you shoulda took a enema

It mighta not been ten of us, murder is turnin' your street into a cinema

Swingin' gats like pendulums, **** out the nine double, I'm him and em

Max wit hundred gats and I'm the minimum

Sendin' em, but sick of all this, I take a step back

And spit the torris in yo moms and chick won't trist ta hit the floor is

Makin' em clip the forest, it's G scar fold

Turnin' yo body weight ta cargo

While I stretch ya, ya bet ya'll lay fall go

Harps played in the dark like he was harpo

Get ya hit quicker than Carlo, Gambino

Rain on cities like El Nino, live well in Reno

Scoffed for the card he is in Bossolino

Scammin' the profits in casinos

Knock wigs off like therapy wit kimo

Truth
09-01-2006, 08:29 PM
Well, Papoose has appeared on some music videos and getting known by the mainstream.

He was in the Busta Rhymes touch it remix which was huge, and in the song with Jeanie Ortega, so I definately seen him on tv a LOT....

I love Papoose, I think he can bring NY back.

I hear you, Papoose is my favorite MC right now. No gimmicks and a non-marketable name, and he still created a buzz. To me thats true talent. He made it to where he is because hes a lyrical beast and he worked hard for years. You can't hate that, even if your not a fan.

Tha Greatest
09-01-2006, 09:00 PM
I hear you, Papoose is my favorite MC right now. No gimmicks and a non-marketable name, and he still created a buzz. To me thats true talent. He made it to where he is because hes a lyrical beast and he worked hard for years. You can't hate that, even if your not a fan.
He's like one of those guys that have been there for years and is finally getting recognition, but he has never put out a cd. I can't wait for that.

He is my favorite MC after AZ. AZ is starting to become my favorite of all time, if his new cd is hot, then AZ will be my alltime favorite. I can't wait for Papoose's new ****!!