Without Dr Dre he wouldnt of being **** .

actually eminem is more known for his complex lyrics rather then his beats. So your argument is without merit.


Besides most rappers would be **** if they were'nt discovered and then helped along by a current artist or producer. So what your saying is somewhat true but not the way you would like it to be.

:rolleyes:

Eminem is a great lyricist....I don't like all the **** he talks about nor am I really a fan of his but you have to give credit where it is due.......Besides the thread starter is a Tyson fan.....LOL talk about overrated. ;)

Eminem is a great lyricist....I don't like all the **** he talks about nor am I really a fan of his but you have to give credit where it is due.......Besides the thread starter is a Tyson fan.....LOL talk about overrated. ;)


did you get my pm bro

Man, this idea got destroyed in 1 post.

Eminem is a complicated lyricist to people who have simple minds. To say that his lyrics are complicated are to say that they are poetic which they are not . All his lyrics are about is a guy waxing lyrical about how ****ed up society is and how much he hates . Its not deep nor is it it intelligent all it is slander,riducle,homophobic and self indulgent tripe .

Eminem is a complicated lyricist to people who have simple minds. To say that his lyrics are complicated are to say that they are poetic which they are not . All his lyrics are about is a guy waxing lyrical about how ****ed up society is and how much he hates . Its not deep nor is it it intelligent all it is slander,riducle,homophobic and self indulgent tripe .
You know I do agree like I said that I don't care for what he talks about but he is a good rapper period....there is no denying that.....but if you don't like him you don't like him.....respect due though either way.

You know I do agree like I said that I don't care for what he talks about but he is a good rapper period....there is no denying that.....but if you don't like him you don't like him.....respect due though either way.

Another thing is he dosent even write his own music . i mean how pathetic is that .

That's Tupac. Only people I seen marvel at Tupac's lyrics are idiots.

PS: Eminem is ass. His subject material is garbage and he can call out everyone and ignore Suge's disses. True *****.
Eminem is a complicated lyricist to people who have simple minds. To say that his lyrics are complicated are to say that they are poetic which they are not . All his lyrics are about is a guy waxing lyrical about how ****ed up society is and how much he hates . Its not deep nor is it it intelligent all it is slander,riducle,homophobic and self indulgent tripe .

That's Tupac. Only people I seen marvel at Tupac's lyrics are idiots.

PS: Eminem is ass. His subject material is garbage and he can call out everyone and ignore Suge's disses. True *****.
Tupacs words are deep and great you are still a cunt I see.......

Like I said only stupid people think his lyrics are fascinating.

Don't you got some cocaine to snort?
Tupacs words are deep and great you are still a cunt I see.......

Like I said only stupid people think his lyrics are fascinating.

Don't you got some cocaine to snort?
God are you really that ****ing retarded?

Are you smarter than me?
God are you really that ****ing retarded?

Are you smarter than me?
Obviously when it comes to Hip-Hop by a ****ing mile......Look kid you may have your little college thing and may be booksmart but I am quite sure you would not have survived my life so lets just face that we are 2 different people and don't like one another and continue on our seperate paths......maybe like I said we will meet in Vagas someday and we can play cards or soemthing to find out who the better man really is.....LOL anyway I just don't like arguing with thick headed people with tunnel vision anymore.......Peace.

That's Tupac. Only people I seen marvel at Tupac's lyrics are idiots.

PS: Eminem is ass. His subject material is garbage and he can call out everyone and ignore Suge's disses. True *****.


DUMB MOTHERFUKER! Everyone who listens to Tupac knows he not about word-play or extremely clever lyrics that most NY rappers do today. His verses were filled with powerful lyrics about the truth in all subjects. And Eminem's best work isn't the **** that is played on TV or on Radios. He gotta do some searching, Em is one of the most underrated because of the way he first came out.


Dumb asses like you should have their tongue cut out.

LAUGH MY ASS OFF. You aren't smarter than me in any way. Not even hip hop.

Go smoke a blunt and brag about it later, trash.
Obviously when it comes to Hip-Hop by a ****ing mile......Look kid you may have your little college thing and may be booksmart but I am quite sure you would not have survived my life so lets just face that we are 2 different people and don't like one another and continue on our seperate paths......maybe like I said we will meet in Vagas someday and we can play cards or soemthing to find out who the better man really is.....LOL anyway I just don't like arguing with thick headed people with tunnel vision anymore.......Peace.

Like I said, the only people that think Tupac was great at that **** are idiots. Keep illustrating it partner.

I don't think I've met one smart person that was in awe of Tupac's lyrics. Not one.

You're 14 years old. When you're old enough, I think you'll realize what I said is true.

PS: You want a message or powerful lyrics from a rapper? Go to church is you want a message. Don't listen to a jailbird for a message. Ok?
DUMB MOTHERFUKER! Everyone who listens to Tupac knows he not about word-play or extremely clever lyrics that most NY rappers do today. His verses were filled with powerful lyrics about the truth in all subjects. And Eminem's best work isn't the **** that is played on TV or on Radios. He gotta do some searching, Em is one of the most underrated because of the way he first came out.


Dumb asses like you should have their tongue cut out.

Pure ignorance. Eminem underrated? Get the **** outta here. That dude can go to Ireland and sell it out. You think those 30,000 fans in Ireland are rap/hip-hop fans? **** no. That's over-rated if anything. Drop the blunt and go to bed son.

Eminem is a very, very elite lyricist. Thread starter/everyone who ragged on Eminem is a joke.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/Feartheunown/stupid_thread.jpg

Like I said, the only people that think Tupac was great at that **** are idiots. Keep illustrating it partner.

I don't think I've met one smart person that was in awe of Tupac's lyrics. Not one.

You're 14 years old. When you're old enough, I think you'll realize what I said is true.

PS: You want a message or powerful lyrics from a rapper? Go to church is you want a message. Don't listen to a jailbird for a message. Ok?


Pure ignorance. Eminem underrated? Get the **** outta here. That dude can go to Ireland and sell it out. You think those 30,000 fans in Ireland are rap/hip-hop fans? **** no. That's over-rated if anything. Drop the blunt and go to bed son.


Spitfires!!!!

Like I said, the only people that think Tupac was great at that **** are idiots. Keep illustrating it partner.

I don't think I've met one smart person that was in awe of Tupac's lyrics. Not one.

You're 14 years old. When you're old enough, I think you'll realize what I said is true.

PS: You want a message or powerful lyrics from a rapper? Go to church is you want a message. Don't listen to a jailbird for a message. Ok?


Pure ignorance. Eminem underrated? Get the **** outta here. That dude can go to Ireland and sell it out. You think those 30,000 fans in Ireland are rap/hip-hop fans? **** no. That's over-rated if anything. Drop the blunt and go to bed son.


Why do you continue to post in this forum? Obviously you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Only idiots are in awe of Tupac's lyrics lol. Yeah, go tell that to the College institutions that created classes to discuss his lyrics. Stop posting in here; you're a waste of space.

Why do you continue to post in this forum? Obviously you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Only idiots are in awe of Tupac's lyrics lol. Yeah, go tell that to the College institutions that created classes to discuss his lyrics. Stop posting in here; you're a waste of space.
God bless this post.........BTW Manny P why are you cool somedays and then post dumb **** like Blood**** spitfire another?I just don't get it......Blood**** is obviously an outspoken little ***** who only speaks out when on the internet and when he does shows his true colors.......pampered, not a drop of street sense and just lame and repetative........

God bless this post.........BTW Manny P why are you cool somedays and then post dumb **** like Blood**** spitfire another?I just don't get it......Blood**** is obviously an outspoken little ***** who only speaks out when on the internet and when he does shows his true colors.......pampered, not a drop of street sense and just lame and repetative........

what's wrong with what I said? I just said 'spitfires'.

what's wrong with what I said? I just said 'spitfires'.
Whatever......you know what I mean.it don't matter to each is own but your boy is just a ****ing douche bag.....Period, majority rules.

Whatever......you know what I mean.it don't matter to each is own but your boy is just a ****ing douche bag.....Period, majority rules.

well i kinda agree with him. I don't like Tupac's music much. Too plain to me. But then again, I only listen to NY hip hop. :D

It's cool if you don't listen to Tupac's music because it's "too plain for you." But the moment that you start making comments like "only idiots are in awe of his lyrics," you've crossed the line into absurdity. It's a childish comment, and it's very arrogant way to look at things. The guy has been making numerous comments like this in this forum, and I do agree with Rae; he's a douche.

Still crying and *****ing eh? I know more about colleges than you could ever imagine.

Go back to mopping floors at Burger King homeboy.

Why do you continue to post in this forum? Obviously you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Only idiots are in awe of Tupac's lyrics lol. Yeah, go tell that to the College institutions that created classes to discuss his lyrics. Stop posting in here; you're a waste of space.

I have more education in the tip of my fingers than you and Raetaard will ever have combined.

You're an idiot. You can't take people's opinions that differ from your's. McDonalds and Burger Kings are full of people like you.

What I said stands, idiots are in awe of Tupac's lyrics and that includes you and Raetaard. Case and point; Raetaard melted when I asked him if he was smarter than me. And you blew a fuse when I said something not too positive about Tupac. You're both idiots.
It's cool if you don't listen to Tupac's music because it's "too plain for you." But the moment that you start making comments like "only idiots are in awe of his lyrics," you've crossed the line into absurdity. It's a childish comment, and it's very arrogant way to look at things. The guy has been making numerous comments like this in this forum, and I do agree with Rae; he's a douche.

I have more education in the tip of my fingers than you and Raetaard will ever have combined.

You're an idiot. You can't take people's opinions that differ from your's. McDonalds and Burger Kings are full of people like you.

What I said stands, idiots are in awe of Tupac's lyrics and that includes you and Raetaard. Case and point; Raetaard melted when I asked him if he was smarter than me. And you blew a fuse when I said something not too positive about Tupac. You're both idiots.

Flamethrowers?

What the hell is the world coming to? Eminem overrated? Hatin on Tupac? Tupac was a ****in poet. Simple lyrics? Get the **** outta here with that. Thats why he has has a book of poetry that is studied in colleges. Who cares how smart you are? You are obviously in the minority when you dog on Tupacs lyrical capabilities.


"With all this extra stressin; the question I wonder is after death
after my last breath, when will I finally get to rest?
Through this suppression, they punish the people that's askin questions
And those that posess, steal from the ones without posessions
The message I stress, to make you stop study your lessons
Don't settle for less - even the genius askses questions
Be grateful for blessings, don't ever change keep your essence
The power is in the people and politics we address"

Does that sound simple to you? That ****s got meaning man. Tupac was a bit repetetive at times and thats the only negative I can say about him as a lyricist, but he did that on purpose because he wanted to get the point out there.

I will continue to stand up for Eminem. Like I always say just listen to his verse on "we all die one day" and it shows you what level hes on as a lyricist. I played that for two Eminem haters and they instantly became fans.

I have more education in the tip of my fingers than you and Raetaard will ever have combined.

You're an idiot. You can't take people's opinions that differ from your's. McDonalds and Burger Kings are full of people like you.

What I said stands, idiots are in awe of Tupac's lyrics and that includes you and Raetaard. Case and point; Raetaard melted when I asked him if he was smarter than me. And you blew a fuse when I said something not too positive about Tupac. You're both idiots.

that's the reason why I don't like conversing/arguing about music . Music is choice, it's what you like. You can't shove opinions in other people when discussing music. "You listen to commercial shyt" or "MTV are for posers" are wack comments for real.

that's the reason why I don't like conversing/arguing about music . Music is choice, it's what you like. You can't shove opinions in other people when discussing music. "You listen to commercial shyt" or "MTV are for posers" are wack comments for real.


yeah but he said idiots are in awe of Tupac's lyrics. If he said something like, "I dont find Tupac's lyrics that complex as others do," then it would be different. By saying only idiots are in awe of his lyrics is dissin on those that are, such as myself.

I have more education in the tip of my fingers than you and Raetaard will ever have combined.

You're an idiot. You can't take people's opinions that differ from your's. McDonalds and Burger Kings are full of people like you.

What I said stands, idiots are in awe of Tupac's lyrics and that includes you and Raetaard. Case and point; Raetaard melted when I asked him if he was smarter than me. And you blew a fuse when I said something not too positive about Tupac. You're both idiots.


You continue to make yourself look worse. I can't believe that anyone can be as stupid and childish as you. "Go back to mopping up floors at Burger King." Sighs. It's really funny how you keep saying that I can't respect people having different opinions than I do and yet you call people that are in awe of Tupac's lyrics, and opinion different than yours, idiots.

You're the biggest dumbass that I've ever seen on any internet forum, and I'm not just saying that because I'm sick of your stupid posts, it's the ****in' truth. You can keep telling yourself whatever you want. You call me an idiot, yet you offer no proof. On numerous posts you've made, I've offered good rebuttals to them, and many on here have agree with me. The only thing that I've seen you do is post derogatory statements and baseless claims.

Stop posting here, please. You're a piece of ****.

yeah but he said idiots are in awe of Tupac's lyrics. If he said something like, "I dont find Tupac's lyrics that complex as others do," then it would be different. By saying only idiots are in awe of his lyrics is dissin on those that are, such as myself.


lol, an obvious contradiction. How do you cosign someone that makes comments like "only stupid suburban kids like Tupac," and someone that attacks a person's intelligence because of their choice of music, and then posts something like

"that's the reason why I don't like conversing/arguing about music . Music is choice, it's what you like. You can't shove opinions in other people when discussing music. "You listen to commercial shyt" or "MTV are for posers" are wack comments for real."


This makes no obvious sense. My arguments with Bloodshed stemmed from insultary comments he made about Tupac fans. In no way was I attacking a person's right to like certain things; what I was pointing out was how bone headed it is to flame people like he did because they like a certain thing.

This guy Bloodshed obviously has no evidence of intelligent thought in his brain, and it really humours me to read his posts lol.

Like I said only stupid people think his lyrics are fascinating.

Don't you got some cocaine to snort?


^^ posts he made in reference of Eminem. He's addressing Rae in this posts. lol. Can someone get this filth banned from this forum? This is a disgrace to the site.

With idiots like you and Raetaard, I just ignored in high school. You're jokes that shouldn't be taken seriously. I can't talk seriously about anything worth talking about with an idiot like you. You are of no value.

Funny how I left high school and the Tupac fans were no longer there at the university level. Very telling to me.

Keep talking trash. Followed me around and get your feelings hurt by something I DID NOT say about you.

My statement stands. Go mop the floors welfare ho.


You continue to make yourself look worse. I can't believe that anyone can be as stupid and childish as you. "Go back to mopping up floors at Burger King." Sighs. It's really funny how you keep saying that I can't respect people having different opinions than I do and yet you call people that are in awe of Tupac's lyrics, and opinion different than yours, idiots.

You're the biggest dumbass that I've ever seen on any internet forum, and I'm not just saying that because I'm sick of your stupid posts, it's the ****in' truth. You can keep telling yourself whatever you want. You call me an idiot, yet you offer no proof. On numerous posts you've made, I've offered good rebuttals to them, and many on here have agree with me. The only thing that I've seen you do is post derogatory statements and baseless claims.

Stop posting here, please. You're a piece of ****.

PS: Double talking. Just shut the hell up ho and stay in school.

What the hell is the world coming to? Eminem overrated? Hatin on Tupac? Tupac was a ****in poet. Simple lyrics? Get the **** outta here with that. Thats why he has has a book of poetry that is studied in colleges. Who cares how smart you are? You are obviously in the minority when you dog on Tupacs lyrical capabilities.


"With all this extra stressin; the question I wonder is after death
after my last breath, when will I finally get to rest?
Through this suppression, they punish the people that's askin questions
And those that posess, steal from the ones without posessions
The message I stress, to make you stop study your lessons
Don't settle for less - even the genius askses questions
Be grateful for blessings, don't ever change keep your essence
The power is in the people and politics we address"

Does that sound simple to you? That ****s got meaning man. Tupac was a bit repetetive at times and thats the only negative I can say about him as a lyricist, but he did that on purpose because he wanted to get the point out there.

I will continue to stand up for Eminem. Like I always say just listen to his verse on "we all die one day" and it shows you what level hes on as a lyricist. I played that for two Eminem haters and they instantly became fans.
That song is on Obie's disc and it gets played every few days on my itunes playlist...

With idiots like you and Raetaard, I just ignored in high school. You're jokes that shouldn't be taken seriously. I can't talk seriously about anything worth talking about with an idiot like you. You are of no value.

Funny how I left high school and the Tupac fans were no longer there at the university level. Very telling to me.

Keep talking trash. Followed me around and get your feelings hurt by something I DID NOT say about you.

My statement stands. Go mop the floors welfare ho.



PS: Double talking. Just shut the hell up ho and stay in school.


LOL at this kid. Double talking? Hey dumbass, who was it that posted twice in the previous page of this thread?

"With idiots like you and Raetaard, I just ignored in high school."

"You're jokes that shouldn't be taken seriously."

I commend you on being stupid enough to post 2 consecutive sentence fragments. lol. This guy can't be serious. It would really help if you could learn to read. Notice how I said "the only thing that I've seen YOU do on here is post derogatory statements." You bolding an insult I made towards you and trying to use it as some proof of a hypoctritical act is hilarious at best. I've been more than accepting of people's preferences on here, but when you come here and try to insult people because they like a certain type of lyrics, I'm going to call you out on that.

Saying that a concert in Ireland, which sells 30 000 tickets, is a sign that Eminem isnt hip hop, is the worst logic I have ever heard. So because they were Irish they werent Hip-Hop fans? Or because there were 30 000 of them, they werent Hip-Hop fans? Which means you dont think Hip-Hop has that many fans in Ireland?

Toolshed, you're a worthless ****e.

Eminem was recognized as one of the sickest rhymers BEFORE Dr. Dre signed him. Getting the exposure only caused him to step his game up and deliver 3 INSANE albums in a row in :The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers LP(<--one of the top ten albums I've ever heard) and The Eminem Show.

Eminem is a complicated lyricist to people who have simple minds. To say that his lyrics are complicated are to say that they are poetic which they are not . All his lyrics are about is a guy waxing lyrical about how ****ed up society is and how much he hates . Its not deep nor is it it intelligent all it is slander,riducle,homophobic and self indulgent tripe .


Eminem's last album was kinda weak, but other than that, he's a beast on the mic. I'm afraid you do not know what you are talking about.

That song is on Obie's disc and it gets played every few days on my itunes playlist...


yeah thats where I found it when I got Cheers a few years back. Its got two rediculous verses from Em and Lloyd Banks and two above average verses from 50 and Obie on top of a nice beat. One of my favorites...

Eminem-Til hell freezes over:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=65ED58B511FD756B

With idiots like you and Raetaard, I just ignored in high school. You're jokes that shouldn't be taken seriously. I can't talk seriously about anything worth talking about with an idiot like you. You are of no value.

Funny how I left high school and the Tupac fans were no longer there at the university level. Very telling to me.

Keep talking trash. Followed me around and get your feelings hurt by something I DID NOT say about you.

My statement stands. Go mop the floors welfare ho.




PS: Double talking. Just shut the hell up ho and stay in school.
You don't know us but we know enough about you from you ****ty posts to tell that you are a pampered little ***** ass suburbanite like you supposedly hate.......****ing Cunt.