People say he had muscular "genetics" but look at pictures of him now he isn't training, he has a smaller frame by far.

Yeah, after prison he did :)
Never in the 80s though. Mike was geneticely gifted. Any kind of hard training would make him buffed.

anyone that thinks he didn't use weights is kiddin themselves. Sure it might have been somewhat due to genetics, but no one has that kind of body doing no weights whatsoever

anyone that thinks he didn't use weights is kiddin themselves. Sure it might have been somewhat due to genetics, but no one has that kind of body doing no weights whatsoever

Some black people can get a body like that(The 80s Tyson ofcource) without weights. I think you are kidding yourself.

wow i didnt know u cud b that big jus thru genetics

Some black people can get a body like that(The 80s Tyson ofcource) without weights. I think you are kidding yourself.

Actually caucasians are naturally gentically stronger in the upper body. Thats why sports like shotput and stuff is 99% caucasian while blacks are naturally genetically superior in the lower legs.

I can find links if you want, its been researched.

Chris Eubank weighed 180-185 on fight night and was ripped to the bone, he says he never touched a weight in his life.

Pretty are full of ****, have you ever seen anyone that was jacked that never lifted a weight. No you dont so how would Eubank and Tyson be the only 2 in the world.

Honestly people use your brains. This is exactly the same thing as the smart kids in school who say they never study yet they always turn in homework and have no social life. It just doesnt happen that way...

If you beleive it your a complete moron.

Ripped to the bone my ass, even steriods require you to use some lifting. Dumbasses...

Popcorn's on me. Who's got the beer?

Tyson used weights during and after prison...and at that point, he wasn't as good as he was in 85-89.

hiting a heavy bag is pretty stenuous on the muscles and alot of men wil get quite muscualr just from that

its unlikely that tyson used weights in his earlier career because cus d'amato was an 'old school' trainer and he wouod have thought weights would slow tyson down

Some black people can get a body like that(The 80s Tyson ofcource) without weights. I think you are kidding yourself.

I can understand that a load of black people, who, having lived in mountainous and higer up regions, not to mention extremely hot conditions for quite some time have better stamina and endurance than other races, but there would be no reason for them to have bigger stronger muscles than other races. You see other-race people who are as big as or bigger than Tyson naturally, but most of the time they are quite fat.

Plus the strongest men in the world are all white guys...

And i'm mixed race, not white or black so don't go calling me a racist/biast

You can get as big as Tyson using bodyweight exercises. That doesn't mean do 500 pushups. That means do harder progressions like one handed pushups. planche pushups, or ring work like gymnasts.

Just because someone doesnt lift weights doesnt mean they dont strength train. Im sure Tyson did a lot of pushups, sit ups, pull ups, dips, etc. Hershel Walker never touched a weight untill he got to the NFL, and he was built like a truck.

I got a great example for all of you. Look at the professional gymnists. They are ripped from doing all those body weight excercises.

Exactly. Gymnasts are pure bodyweight monsters. The stuff they do on the rings are crazy.

yeah.. but gymnastics is so... well it's the sort of thing you'd be called a homo for in high school.

Who cares what people say to you in high school? It's only 4 years of your life. If you like to be into gymnastics, do it. I wouldn't care about what anyone thinks of me.

take a look at jimjeffries, he didnt used and he was 225 at 6.1 without weights, ive seen pics off tyson at 13 he was allready 190lbs built, its rare but its possibel.

also whites and especially slavs are the trongest

I don't really believe in races. I believe in lifestyles. Black people are just more active than whites playing sports all day.

take a look at jimjeffries, he didnt used and he was 225 at 6.1 without weights, ive seen pics off tyson at 13 he was allready 190lbs built, its rare but its possibel.

also whites and especially slavs are the trongest

Actually the Germanic peoples are genetically strongest. Im not abit Germanic but those nordic people like Swedish and Danish have the strongest physical genes of any race. Most of the worlds strongest men come from that part of the world.

They are also the tallest. I heard the average height of a man in the Netherlands is 6'1, keep in mind anyone below 6'1 would be shorter than average. The average height in America is 5'9.4 for a man so they are more than 2.5in taller than us! :eek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

God damn...just work hard with lots of dedication...Who cares about genetics :p

:D

I don't really believe in races. I believe in lifestyles. Black people are just more active than whites playing sports all day.

Well damn, it's hard to play sports all day when you're an executive or a CEO of a major corporation with deadlines to meet, isn't it?

Actually caucasians are naturally gentically stronger in the upper body. Thats why sports like shotput and stuff is 99% caucasian while blacks are naturally genetically superior in the lower legs.

I can find links if you want, its been researched.


i think they jus try harder then us. cause honestly i dont see it

Pretty are full of ****, have you ever seen anyone that was jacked that never lifted a weight. No you dont so how would Eubank and Tyson be the only 2 in the world.

Honestly people use your brains. This is exactly the same thing as the smart kids in school who say they never study yet they always turn in homework and have no social life. It just doesnt happen that way...

If you beleive it your a complete moron.

Ripped to the bone my ass, even steriods require you to use some lifting. Dumbasses...


i've time and time again i dont lift weights, i did for 2 years for wrestling thats all and that was twice a week only.i know ppl that r like me its jus rare thats all.i get the did u play football or lift weights question everyday when im at work, it gets very tiring explaining. :(

Actually the Germanic peoples are genetically strongest. Im not abit Germanic but those nordic people like Swedish and Danish have the strongest physical genes of any race. Most of the worlds strongest men come from that part of the world.

They are also the tallest. I heard the average height of a man in the Netherlands is 6'1, keep in mind anyone below 6'1 would be shorter than average. The average height in America is 5'9.4 for a man so they are more than 2.5in taller than us! :eek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height


they translated meter to fet a bit wrong 183 is 6 not 6.1

one feet is 30.5centimeters.

that being said the netherlands are the tallest in europe at 6, here in scanidinavia where i live its 5.11.

damn you americans are short :D

ooh and no the germanians are not the strongest the slavs are whisch is shown iff you look at weightlifting with germaninc as a close second.

taller doesnt mean stronger

i think they jus try harder then us. cause honestly i dont see it

its proven, wheter ore not your subjetic self will admitt it.

oooh and by the way, im 200lbs at 6 with wide shoulder etc, not from weightlifting just from boxing and yeah i now its tiring with all the people who come and ask how much i bench etc

its proven, wheter ore not your subjetic self will admitt it.

oooh and by the way, im 200lbs at 6 with wide shoulder etc, not from weightlifting just from boxing and yeah i now its tiring with all the people who come and ask how much i bench etc


very tiring.and then they say in joking "i bet u do steriods or u played football huh or i bet u can carry that give it to the strong guy. ppl expect to much of u. and to the upperbody lifting.until some white dude beats me in upper body then i cant see it.(in my view)

very tiring.and then they say in joking "i bet u do steriods or u played football huh or i bet u can carry that give it to the strong guy. ppl expect to much of u. and to the upperbody lifting.until some white dude beats me in upper body then i cant see it.(in my view)


LOL,i got almost the same question last week by some guy at work,damn man your biff WHAT DO YOU EAT? food i replied than he said DO YOU USE STEROIDS TOO?

LOL,i got almost the same question last week by some guy at work,damn man your biff WHAT DO YOU EAT? food i replied than he said DO YOU USE STEROIDS TOO?


hahaha. ppl also ask me since i work alot,when do i have time to workout after i told them i dont lift ahaha. it never fails

hahaha. ppl also ask me since i work alot,when do i have time to workout after i told them i dont lift ahaha. it never fails

classic, the funny thing is that ive never meet anyone in the same situation

only wish i was a bit leaner like you, oh well im 6 and your like 5.6 som its okay :D

very tiring.and then they say in joking "i bet u do steriods or u played football huh or i bet u can carry that give it to the strong guy. ppl expect to much of u. and to the upperbody lifting.until some white dude beats me in upper body then i cant see it.(in my view)

Dude do you ever watch strongman contests? most (actually i've never seen a black dude in one) of those guys are white and some can bench press about 800lbs or more, and deadlift ****ing cars.. lol

Dude do you ever watch strongman contests? most (actually i've never seen a black dude in one) of those guys are white and some can bench press about 800lbs or more, and deadlift ****ing cars.. lol

thats stupid your stupid for saying that... so what if most of those guys are white they wasnt born able to lift my building they train it doesnt matter if they are black or white. have u seen alot of black guys tried to get in the competion and fail or just because you only see white guys they are gonna be strounger then a black guy if he was in it.

when it comes to pure strength I thin white people are stronger but when it comes to size of the muscle blacks have the upper hand...or really? this is stupid actually why argue over something as meaningles as this?

blacks have more explosive power, while whites have better muscle endurance. That's why blacks are so fast and explosive with punches and sprints while whites dominate power lifting

Powerlifting uses no endurane :confused:

There's really isn't a big difference in professional sports between black and white people, they're all beasts.

In average everyday life, the black person is stronger/bigger/faster than the white guy.

But you guys are still not considering, asians, middle easterns, hispanics, etc.

Olympic Lifting is ruled and always will be ruled by mostly Europeons and some Middle Easterns. While powerlifting is always gonna be ruled by White Americans.

i think it's likely that blacks are faster/have more stamina while whites have more strength due to surroundings

Alright, it is well known that Tyson was a (big kid) weighing in at 200 as a thirteen year old. But It is also well known that Cus, Teddy n co. used weight training as a part of strenth and conditioning. As do most trainers. Not in the same way as say a body builder would. You have to work your core body mass. But yes of course He and most other hard hitting heavyweights did lift weights as part of there workout.

Yeah...but Tyson didn't. I was watching a documentary of Tyson and it showed him shadowboxing and then talking to the guy...I was like, wow, he's fast for 17-18...Later on the bottom it said Tyson at 15. This guy was so freakin thick for 15. Again...genetics...

I agree, and for a good reason. Lifting weights does limit speed of contraction in the muscles. I think the subject is going in too many directions. No Cus wouldn't have let his fighters use weights like a football player, body builder or a back yard tough guy. A good trainer wouldn't. Why slow the guy down. excessive muscle means you need more oxygen to feed it. But I have seen Mike Tyson use weights to develope his strength and conditioning. And the gym in Arizona where he trained for a couple of fights is big on using weights to improve certain areas of a fighers body. Bench press. no. squats, lunges shoulder work. Yes The question wasn't how did he use them it was weather or not he did. The answere is Yes.

Yeah...but Tyson didn't. I was watching a documentary of Tyson and it showed him shadowboxing and then talking to the guy...I was like, wow, he's fast for 17-18...Later on the bottom it said Tyson at 15. This guy was so freakin thick for 15. Again...genetics...



**** yeah any professional athlete white, black, red, yellow, or brown has to have that "g" code to be that special person that they are. But resistance training builds muscle mass. Tyson's muscle mass is not purely genetic. nor is it due entirely to Streinuous exercize like the heavy bag. I promise you He used weights to some degree. I am from Memphis Tn when he faught Lenox Lewis, The gen public could pay to attend some of the fighters workouts. He did use weight machines. In phoenix, He used weights. Maybe he did too much in the later part of his career. Maybe thats where some of his speed went. But the fact is He used them.

Of course he used them at one point. But he never used them with Rooney or before that.