NJFighter91
08-19-2006, 12:58 AM
What is your top 10 slugger of all time list? I don't know mine so I can't really post.
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View Full Version : Top 10 sluggers? NJFighter91 08-19-2006, 12:58 AM What is your top 10 slugger of all time list? I don't know mine so I can't really post. sleazyfellow 08-19-2006, 01:10 AM 1. tyson in his prime 2. frazier 3. foreman 4. liston 5. marciano 6. dempsy 7. shavers lol thats all i can think of right now, i havent really thought it out, but the first 2 i wouldnt change... NJFighter91 08-19-2006, 01:18 AM Weren't Tyson, Marciano, Dempsey more of brawlers than sluggers? sleazyfellow 08-19-2006, 01:22 AM brawler...swarmer? i thought a slugger just meant sumone who put almost everything into the punches, and thats what those did.. NJFighter91 08-19-2006, 01:33 AM I thought slugger was like Shavers, Foreman and brawlers were Marciano, Tyson who were combo and fast good. JuicyJuice 08-19-2006, 01:52 AM Nigel Benn was a super-slugger, until he calmed down abit. hemichromis 08-19-2006, 03:27 AM foreman was the epitome of slugger! i dont know if i count tyson as a slugger he threw fast combos and showed good skills and speed which arent traditionally slugger traits TheGreat1 08-19-2006, 03:57 AM in no order Foreman Holyfield Frazier Corralas Hagler JC Chavez Brewster Hearns Tyson leff 08-19-2006, 05:30 AM liston was by no means a slugger Yaman 08-19-2006, 07:43 AM Tyson, Liston or even Frazier shouldn't be called Sluggers. they were a lot more technical. I'll start off a list of sluggers. 1-George Foreman 2-The late Gerald Mcclellan 3-Early Nigel Benn 4-Earnie Shavers 5-Thomas Hearns if he WANTED to slug. 6-Rocky Marciano 7-David Tua 8-Jack Dempsey 9-Razor Ruddock 10-Maybe Ibeabuchi Chin is very important for slugger to be good. Speed and agility aswell. George Foreman had a chin and power punching ability. If he had the same heart as after Ali...Marciano could slug and had heart, but he was a bit slower and couldnt put many combos together. leff 08-19-2006, 07:58 AM tyson and frazier was what you can define as slugger-swarmers Yaman 08-19-2006, 08:11 AM Tyson was definitely a Slugger after the Spinks fight. Maybe one of the bets sluggers ever when he fought Ruddock. Frazier was just too skilled to be a stereotype slugger. leff 08-19-2006, 08:33 AM frazier was a swarmer-slugger, and i dont get this with "to skilled to be a slugger". by all means its possibel to be a skilled slugger Kid Canada 08-19-2006, 10:00 AM Ron Lyle has to be on the list somewhere. sleazyfellow 08-19-2006, 11:54 AM frazier was a swarmer-slugger, and i dont get this with "to skilled to be a slugger". by all means its possibel to be a skilled slugger exactly, thats why i mentioned tyson, call it stamina problems or whatever, but he couldnt punch after 8-9 rounds but mayb in his prime, every punch he threw was a knockout punch, and frazier is definetely a slugger, if u ever saw him fight look the way he throws his left...if he misses he look horrible but u can see how much he puts into it, just diffrence with tyson is that he was more like marciano as the fight went on, got better after the feeling out of his opponent hemichromis 08-19-2006, 02:03 PM Ron Lyle has to be on the list somewhere. definately!! up their with foreman most dangerous sluggers 1. foreman 2. shavers 3. lyle 4. tyson although i dont really know ho to classify him 5. tommy morrison Is he a slugger or boxer-puncher 6. razer ruddock same as above rocky and dempsey should be up there if you classify them as sluggers, i dont! Kid Achilles 08-19-2006, 02:44 PM Max Baer, David Tua, Bob Satterfield (though he had skill...) all belong here. Hard Boiled HK 08-19-2006, 06:10 PM George Foreman - the ultimate slugger. Dye 08-19-2006, 06:38 PM definately!! up their with foreman most dangerous sluggers 1. foreman 2. shavers 3. lyle 4. tyson although i dont really know ho to classify him 5. tommy morrison Is he a slugger or boxer-puncher 6. razer ruddock same as above rocky and dempsey should be up there if you classify them as sluggers, i dont! i think you could classify Morrison both i have seen him box and just slug, Ruddock i think he is both aswell Crazy Dude 08-20-2006, 03:43 PM These classifications are kind of nebulous. To be a great fighter you need to be able to do more than slug. Foreman is the only great fighter I can think of who is a pure slugger. Yaman 08-21-2006, 07:33 AM These classifications are kind of nebulous. To be a great fighter you need to be able to do more than slug. Foreman is the only great fighter I can think of who is a pure slugger. Yeah, thats what im saying. Frazier was by no means a slugger. He could do it all. hemichromis 08-21-2006, 08:36 AM These classifications are kind of nebulous. To be a great fighter you need to be able to do more than slug. Foreman is the only great fighter I can think of who is a pure slugger. thats probably true even shavers and lyle tended to box a little bit foreman was the only one with the combination of power chin and aggression to be successful as a pure slugger Southpaw Stinger 08-21-2006, 02:28 PM Foreman is the best slugger. Other fighters tended to mix both swarming and slugging, Foreman is one of the only great guys who was 100% slugger. King Koyle 08-21-2006, 02:43 PM In no order. 1.Earnie Shavers 2.Rocky Marciano 3.Mike Tyson 4.George Foreman 5.Thomas Hearns 6.Aaron Pryor 7.Archie Moore 8.Joe Louis 9.Tommy Morrison 10.John Sullivan leff 08-28-2006, 07:57 PM In no order. 1.Earnie Shavers 2.Rocky Marciano 3.Mike Tyson 4.George Foreman 5.Thomas Hearns 6.Aaron Pryor 7.Archie Moore 8.Joe Louis 9.Tommy Morrison 10.John Sullivan louis a slugger :eek: he was probaly the msot technical hw ever Dye 08-28-2006, 08:01 PM In no order. 1.Earnie Shavers 2.Rocky Marciano 3.Mike Tyson 4.George Foreman 5.Thomas Hearns 6.Aaron Pryor 7.Archie Moore 8.Joe Louis 9.Tommy Morrison 10.John Sullivan duke.duke.duke phallus 08-28-2006, 09:47 PM In no order. 1.Earnie Shavers 2.Rocky Marciano 3.Mike Tyson 4.George Foreman 5.Thomas Hearns 6.Aaron Pryor 7.Archie Moore 8.Joe Louis 9.Tommy Morrison 10.John Sullivan joe louis was the greatest boxer - puncher that ever lived, he threw combinations with beautiful technique. he should be at the top of different list King Koyle 08-29-2006, 10:05 AM louis a slugger :eek: he was probaly the msot technical hw ever Maybe putting him in the top ten was a little stretch.But only a little one!I agree that he was a great technical fighter.Which made his power all the more dangerous IMO.The man had power that could turn a fight around at any point(see Conn fight).He had fifty-five knockouts in sixty-nine wins.He failed to knockout some journeymen.So I certainly see your point!But he did knockout guys like Billy Conn(twice),Joe Walcott,Max Schelming,Max Baer,Buddy Baer,Jim Braddock,Jack Sharkey,and Primo Carnera(Big deal right :D ). King Koyle 08-29-2006, 10:25 AM duke.duke.duke Got to have the duke in there ;) hemichromis 08-29-2006, 02:28 PM joe louis had everything: speed power acuracy intelligence chin and heart but he was no slugger, the term boxer-puncher fits him best Yaman 08-29-2006, 03:36 PM David Tua outslugs just about anyone except for a few. I just think he deserves respect for something. He was gifted. And slugging was his thing. You guys should count him in this list aswell :) leff 08-30-2006, 08:32 AM Maybe putting him in the top ten was a little stretch.But only a little one!I agree that he was a great technical fighter.Which made his power all the more dangerous IMO.The man had power that could turn a fight around at any point(see Conn fight).He had fifty-five knockouts in sixty-nine wins.He failed to knockout some journeymen.So I certainly see your point!But he did knockout guys like Billy Conn(twice),Joe Walcott,Max Schelming,Max Baer,Buddy Baer,Jim Braddock,Jack Sharkey,and Primo Carnera(Big deal right :D ). you dont get it, he aint a slugger just cause he hit hard, slugger is a style. King Koyle 08-30-2006, 09:20 AM you dont get it, he aint a slugger just cause he hit hard, slugger is a style. You don't get it!Different people have different views on what a slugger is.In my eyes,someone who hits hard could be defined as a slugger.That makes sense to me!The title of the thread says slugger not brawler.People will have different interpretations of that.All i've been seeing is you analying everyone else's lists.And adding your two cents.Make a list or shut up!Your opinion means nothing to me. Brockton Lip 08-30-2006, 12:23 PM A slugger isn't someone who you have defined. A different view on it doesn't make it right. 2+2 equals 37; all because I say it doesn't make it correct. King Koyle 08-30-2006, 12:42 PM A slugger isn't someone who you have defined. A different view on it doesn't make it right. 2+2 equals 37; all because I say it doesn't make it correct. Are you talking to me or Leff?Or both? Brockton Lip 08-30-2006, 12:44 PM Oh lol. You. King Koyle 08-30-2006, 12:55 PM Oh lol. You. You said a different view on it doesn't make it right.Yet your saying that his and your view is the correct one.Does this rule only apply to me?I'll say it once more!I see his point in a slugger being a style.But I also think of a slugger as someone who can punch.If you can't understand that,OK!But it's my opinion. hemichromis 08-30-2006, 01:44 PM You said a different view on it doesn't make it right.Yet your saying that his and your view is the correct one.Does this rule only apply to me?I'll say it once more!I see his point in a slugger being a style.But I also think of a slugger as someone who can punch.If you can't understand that,OK!But it's my opinion. Joe louis WAS NOT a slugger!!! end of!! King Koyle 08-30-2006, 01:47 PM Slugger(As defined in websters international dictionary)-One that strikes hard or with heavy blows.A.A prizefighter that punches hard but uses little defense(well you certainly have me there).My point being that were both right.A slugger is looked at in different ways.When I read the title,I thought of hard punchers as being sluggers.Which is only partialy correct.there is also the style factor even more so.We disagreed,but don't make it sound like my arguments had no basis.Just because it's your opinion(Chum)it doesn't make you automatically correct. King Koyle 08-30-2006, 01:48 PM Joe louis WAS NOT a slugger!!! end of!! Read the below statement!End of it :rolleyes: Yaman 08-30-2006, 01:55 PM David Tua is the 3th best slugger ever. After Foreman and 91/Tyson. King Koyle 08-30-2006, 02:06 PM Before anyone else wants to come team up on good old Mass Pride.Let me just repeat what I said in a post earler.When I orginally saw the word slugger in the title.I thought of hard punchers.Which was half wrong!My bad!Nothing personal! The Noose 08-30-2006, 03:34 PM Slugger(As defined in websters international dictionary)-One that strikes hard or with heavy blows.A.A prizefighter that punches hard but uses little defense By that definition I dont think that Hearns or Louis apply. They were both boxers first with good defences and great punchers. They could slug, but werent sluggers. Foreman- definatly Tua Frazier - IMO yes, he wasnt a boxer. His style was to keep coming forward and throwing hard shots. Marciano- definatly Gatti - id say yes, although he could box, he often resorted to slugging it out. Bobby Chacon - From wat ive seen of him, he also liked to slug. What about Hatton? Or Duran? Although technically great, he loved to just fight. Southpaw Stinger 08-30-2006, 03:40 PM Frazier - IMO yes, he wasnt a boxer. His style was to keep coming forward and throwing hard shots. Marciano- definatly They should be counted more as swarmers rather than sluggers. Their defences were underated. |